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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2021, 10:35:53 am »
Have you spoken to mrodoc yet about the pressure washer he uses.  Looks like a good bit of kit. 

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Well, I went out and bought the Workz model battery powered washer and as far as I know this is the first time it has been used for cleaning stal. For a start it i simpressively light and compact fitting in a medium sized pelibox (apart from the hose and optional head extender). We fed it from a 5 gallon can hauled up a steep slope to the entrance and manhandled through an awkward crawl and a steep slope to the site of action.This was a lovely stal boss covered in mud in an area where the tapes have been ignored. No problem with battery as I used the smaller one and still had plenty of power after the water had all gone. The jet width can be varied and the washer comes with a soft brush. I just used the jet on the second to narrowest settin gand it worked a treat virtually restoring most of the stal boss to its original state.  Obviously a convenient nearby source of water would be useful or the siting of several buckets under drips prior to the trip. No doubt if the Old Ruminator sees this post he will be able to post some before and after photos.

https://www.facebook.com/peter.glanvill1/posts/10156957753169811?notif_id=1573064370818256&notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic

https://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=24920.0

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2021, 10:37:06 pm »
Looks like there might be more visitors this weekend. Comments on the FB video sent to me by a friend.

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #52 on: January 05, 2021, 10:40:14 pm »


Probably illegal as a conservation ploy. Probably.

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #53 on: January 06, 2021, 09:44:25 pm »
MROdoc has done several posts on battery powered washers

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #54 on: January 07, 2021, 12:49:33 pm »

Just a thought...they probably think the route is marked for them

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #55 on: January 07, 2021, 01:07:29 pm »
Elsewhere on the forum there was a recent post about the availability of conservation focused grants, an example of permissible funding being education boards. When I read it I immediately wondered whether such a thing might help with the Giants Hole problem, if thoughtfully worded?

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #56 on: January 07, 2021, 02:04:57 pm »
Elsewhere on the forum there was a recent post about the availability of conservation focused grants, an example of permissible funding being education boards. When I read it I immediately wondered whether such a thing might help with the Giants Hole problem, if thoughtfully worded?
Yep. DCA Conservation Officer Victoria is already putting an application in to cover the cost of an interpretation board and one of those snazzy battery pressure washers.

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #57 on: January 07, 2021, 02:38:59 pm »
Elsewhere on the forum there was a recent post about the availability of conservation focused grants, an example of permissible funding being education boards. When I read it I immediately wondered whether such a thing might help with the Giants Hole problem, if thoughtfully worded?



If, however, they spray-paint all over the new sign, then can we invest in the portcullis? ;)

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #58 on: January 07, 2021, 03:36:18 pm »
Anyone heading there on Saturday??

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #59 on: January 07, 2021, 05:56:40 pm »
Take some club membership forms !

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #60 on: January 07, 2021, 08:43:59 pm »

Just a thought...they probably think the route is marked for them

I don't think that'll be a problem tbh, it's very hard to get lost in Giants. In any case, all of the arrows were on the main route from the entrance to garlands, most in the passage where there are literally no turn offs lol
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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #61 on: January 07, 2021, 09:19:25 pm »
It is funny. Daylight or fall to your death are the only options. How hard can it be? Actually, let's hope they don't look upwards near the entrance  :down:

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #62 on: January 08, 2021, 12:05:37 am »
Anyone heading there on Saturday??
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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #63 on: January 17, 2021, 12:37:25 pm »
The end is where we start....

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #64 on: January 17, 2021, 02:49:47 pm »

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #65 on: September 28, 2021, 10:04:22 am »
More graffiti in Giant's was reported last night. DCA are aware and we'll take steps to remove it. Thankfully it is not as much as last time. We are also considering what further action can be taken as the anti-social & criminal behaviour encountered at Giant's is now a weekly occurrence.

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #66 on: September 28, 2021, 10:14:22 am »

Movement Sensor cameras?
Then daily bombardment of police until they prosecute?

or invite culprits on a caving trip further in.

Put up a large white sheet for them to paint (I know that won't work  :lol:
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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #67 on: September 28, 2021, 10:32:04 am »
Education of the perpetrators, which as a side benefit will teach them the meaning of the word "suppository"...
Dirty old mines need love too....

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #68 on: September 28, 2021, 10:54:51 am »
Education of the perpetrators, which as a side benefit will teach them the meaning of the word "suppository"...

There's probably a suitable stalagmite somewhere.

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #69 on: September 28, 2021, 11:04:38 am »
I have been speaking to the Derbyshire Rural Crime Team this morning and hope to arrange a meeting with them. For now they have asked that cavers report these incidents to Derbyshire Constabulary either by using 101 or by online reporting through their website (https://www.derbyshire.police.uk/) using the report button.

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #70 on: September 28, 2021, 01:28:54 pm »
Education of the perpetrators, which as a side benefit will teach them the meaning of the word "suppository"...

There's probably a suitable stalagmite somewhere.

Firecrackers are much more effective - and fun!
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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #71 on: September 30, 2021, 12:58:51 pm »
More graffiti and anti-social behaviour was reported in Giant's Hole over the weekend by cavers. The paint has been removed today and DCA also took the opportunity to meet someone from the Derbyshire Rural Crime Team over at the cave. They will raise the issue with the local Police teams and hopefully we might see the occasional Police vehicle popping down to the car park as a deterrent. DCA are also speaking to the landowner and tenant about any other steps they wish to take.

Most 'non-caver' groups encountered here recently have been simply curious and not causing any harm. These people are best met with a polite bit of advice about correct equipment or joining a club / hiring an instructor. Please be an ambassador for the sport if you encounter such groups and remember many of us started out caving in poor equipment and with little experience.
However, cavers that do encounter criminal or anti-social behaviour, or the aftermath of it, created by the minority of visitors, should report it to the Police.

If a serious crime is taking place currently, or there is an emergency or risk to yourself or others, call 999 immediately.
Other crimes can be reported via 101 or on the Derbyshire Police website: https://www.derbyshire.police.uk/.
The Derbyshire Rural Crime Team also suggested it was fine reporting issues to them directly via a message to their Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/ruralcrimeteam

DCA have no intention of becoming the cave police or private security here, however we have chosen to speak to the Police after this last incident because of the growing problem at this site. The cave is within a SSSI and our members have been regularly contacting us to ask if something can be done.

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #72 on: September 30, 2021, 01:30:43 pm »
Maybe it requires gating as it was in the 70s by Tom Watson and Billy revell

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #73 on: September 30, 2021, 02:13:02 pm »
I can't tell, but on the first two - have they sprayed yellow paint, then red arrow on top. or is that a beam from a head light.

Either which way,  :wall:

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Re: Giant's Vandalism
« Reply #74 on: September 30, 2021, 02:26:28 pm »
I can't tell, but on the first two - have they sprayed yellow paint, then red arrow on top. or is that a beam from a head light.

Either which way,  :wall:
Nah, it's just the spot on my Scurion dissolving the wall.

 

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