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Strange mud formations
« on: October 25, 2021, 09:18:09 am »
Anybody got any ideas how this might have formed?

The mud 'teeth' closest are probably about an inch long, end to end.

Offline caving_fox

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Re: Strange mud formations
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2021, 09:55:24 am »
Is that on a ridge? Water lapping in on both sides, but not quite overflowing?
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Re: Strange mud formations
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2021, 09:59:24 am »
Guessing it just happens to be at same height as overflow

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Re: Strange mud formations
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2021, 10:25:13 am »
Is that on a ridge? Water lapping in on both sides, but not quite overflowing?

Not really, here's another shot from slightly further back:

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Re: Strange mud formations
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2021, 11:02:56 am »
They look like something I've seen in Peak Cavern's Far Sump Extension.

If so, are they formed by unidirectional flow eroding the mud deposit? Clay particles get stuck to each other by molecular forces and don't then separate easily. It can lead to unusually shaped residues when they're partially eroded by moving water, when some parts of the sediment are better bonded than others.

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Re: Strange mud formations
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2021, 02:04:12 pm »
I agree with Pitlamp that it is an erosional feature of a pre existing coating of silt, leaving the relict structure seen in the pics. His explanation follows my thoughts, but more eloquent

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Re: Strange mud formations
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2021, 02:17:08 pm »
They look like something I've seen in Peak Cavern's Far Sump Extension.

If so, are they formed by unidirectional flow eroding the mud deposit? Clay particles get stuck to each other by molecular forces and don't then separate easily. It can lead to unusually shaped residues when they're partially eroded by moving water, when some parts of the sediment are better bonded than others.

I'm not going to argue with that explanation, as I'm far to ignorant, but I can't quite visualize how it happens.

Are you suggesting that the flow would have been travelling past the mud, with the mud at the water's surface, or underwater? I imagine it would have to be a very gentle and consistent flow to make such a delicate formation.

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Re: Strange mud formations
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2021, 03:05:31 pm »
Looks to me a bit like those 'Penny Falls' you get at the fairground - as in, occasionally some sediment falls off the front lip, and a bit more gets piled up at the back. The protruding lips are strong enough to hold when the water level is at or above their level, but if it drops, the next flow will have enough force for some more new bits at the front to drop off, ad infinitum.

 

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