How's about this?:Mike
A handline usually surffices for that Shortscottsman! Exact location please.
It has been said (CCC Journal V.11 et. al.) that "Sombody, somwhere has said cavers spend the first few hours of their life squeezing out of a vagina and spend the rest of their lives lrying to get back up".Ah, the beauties of Welsh caves ;-)
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