Caves of the Peak District

[Bushman]

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So, I don't think anyone at all is suggesting that the book not be published, and I don't think making a pdf version available on line would impact sales very much at all.
People want the book.
Printing off the pdf to laminate and take with you would be easier than scanning/photocopying.
Having the book to read on the bog/plan trips with, then double checking the online version for updates would surely be a good way to go.

(just to get back on topic....)

 

[Peter Burgess]

Or buy two copies, one to keep and one to cut up and laminate.

 

[andychapm]

OK, then the work I was going to do (for free) to try and track down a copy of the Gautries film and obtain permission for it to be used by the diggers currently pushing the new breakthrough in the cave is on HOLD.

I'm one of the people currently digging down Gautries and i resent being dragged into this. I choose to use UKcaving as a resource for caving and digging information and not as a social forum but when I saw the group I dig with getting dragged in, I had to react.
I'm grateful to Clive for trying to track down this video, it was the first I've heard of it but I'd like to see it now. However, I can't see that somebody else using the caps lock or whatever should really effect on what a group of people choose to do on their spare time, spending their own money.
Leave us out of this one. I'm really grateful for John and Iain for writing this book but it's not my fault it can't be published yet.

 

[Bushman]

Or buy two copies, one to keep and one to cut up and laminate.

Another option.

I think the main reason to publish online though would be the ease with which the guide could be kept up to date.

 

[ttxela]

Is it correct that the manuscript has now gone off for printing? 

When can we place our order 

 

[Jenny P]

You will be happy to hear that DCA has at last been able to find a publisher for the new Caves of the Peak District.  DCA itself will be funding the publication. 

The final version of the text, prepared by John Beck, is being updated with the recent discoveries in the Peak District and we hope to be able to send it for printing within the next couple of months.  Thanks are due to John Beck and Iain Barker for all their efforts in finding a publisher for the new edition.

Likely publication date, if all goes well, will be later this autumn. 

As soon as we have some definite dates, DCA will be circulating a pre-publication order offer so you can get your muddy paws on it a.s.a.p.

Jenny Potts
Hon. Sec. DCA

 

[martinb]

Yay!     

 

[JAM]

1 for me please. 

 

[Pitlamp]

Well done all - your efforts are very much appreciated.

A copy for me as well please.

 

[Mark]

Nice one Mr Beck, I don't know how you would have managed without all the input from Ian and Bob  :-\

 

[blakey]

Winner, one for me please!!!

 

[paul]

There's no point posting "one for me" messages on here...

As soon as we have some definite dates, DCA will be circulating a pre-publication order offer so you can get your muddy paws on it a.s.a.p.

:read:

 

[Jenny P]

Just to clarify, when we're ready to go with the new CoPD and have a more definite date, we will put a downloadable order form on the DCA website and notify via UKcaving that we've done so.  Then it will be up to you to get your order in before the deadline.

Jenny Potts
Hon. Sec. DCA

 

[graham]

Jenny

Deadline? Is there a very limited print run then?

 

[Jenny P]

We'll be doing a special pre-publication rate for the book so there will be a deadline to get orders in for this.  That means your copy will be posted to you just as soon as we get it from the printers.  To be fair to you, we can't make this special order form available until we have a more definite timescale - we're working on that.

Once the book is published, you will still be able to order a copy direct from DCA but it will cost you a bit more than via the special pre-publication rate, or you'll be able to buy from a caving shop. 

If we sell out on the first print run, we would aim do a re-print but that may take time.

Jenny Potts
Hon. Sec. DCA

 

[graham]

Thanks

 

[cavermark]

OK, then the work I was going to do (for free) to try and track down a copy of the Gautries film and obtain permission for it to be used by the diggers currently pushing the new breakthrough in the cave is on HOLD.

I've objected to having my words misquoted - quite reasonably.

In parenting this is termed "withdrawal of love" - when a child behaves in a way you don't want them to, you remove a toy or treat. A more positive approach is to try to empathise and understand why they have behaved in a certain way (and think about what you could have done to avoid it). This builds mutual respect and understanding and reduces future conflict.

Excellent work on getting the Caves of the Peak District sorted by all concerned. I look forward to having it grace my coffee table and being able to read it in bed, leave it on the car seat, read it in workplaces (and other places where a book is far better than a laptop or various laminates).

 

[RobinGriffiths]

In parenting this is termed "withdrawal of love" - when a child behaves in a way you don't want them to, you remove a toy or treat. A more positive approach is to try to empathise and understand why they have behaved in a certain way (and think about what you could have done to avoid it). This builds mutual respect and understanding and reduces future conflict.

The gentleman in question is long gone. The above is his last post (and last activity here unless he's on silent running) and that's 6 months ago.

 

[cavermark]

ah so i see, now I've looked at the dates  :-[

 

[Jenny P]

Pre publication order forms (?20 post free) for CoPD are now ready and will be posted out shortly to Clubs and DCA members and it will also be available at Hidden Earth.  The deadline for this post-free offer is 4th. October. 

We should also have the order form as a download on the DCA website at www.thedca.org.uk as soon as our webmaster has time to put it up.

Otherwise, if you want a copy of the form now, email me at the DCA secretary email address on the website and I'll email you a form.

The book will be off to the printers very shortly and will be with us this autumn - thanks for your patience.

Jenny Potts,
DCA Hon. Sec.