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Climbing, falling and sliding about

Wormy

New member
Over the past couple of weekends I've been out and about between Teesdale and Brough, looking at a few bits and bobs listed in NC1 and some listed elsewhere, here's what happened...apologies for not having photographs of everything but there were certain points on this trip where I was that covered in crap it was impossible to use a camera.

Firstly, Cross pots and Swindale pots , a series of  huge sinks dropping straight into the limestone, some of the entrances to these pots are vast (for a northern dales hole) at about 3 meters across:
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The above is one of Swindale pots, the furthest away from the road, hence the lack of decomposing gas cookers and feral coils of barbed wire, unfortunately this one tightened to an impenetrable fissure approximately 3 to 4 meters down but its an easy free climb down and theres a large rift leadin south until that also peters out, interestingly its possible to trace the sinks backwards across the moor as they gradually drop further north.  Cross pot did seem to be the most accessible but is a very awkward free climb down for about 23 meters and, nearly, the entire climb down is under the waterfall from the sink:
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The line of shakeholes starts at Cross pots and terminates at Swindale pots, poking about in the shakes in between revealed further open pitches and things that will probably be pitches in the not too distant future, including this which was found when my foot broke through the turf and my left leg disappeared, it seems pretty damn deep (we had enlarged the hole by this point to look down into a sizable rift):
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After mooching about Swindale pots on the first visit we decided that we were within walking distance of Windmore end cave so it seemed rude not to check it out, since NC1 the entrance has slightly collapsed and one of the chock stones has dropped in so there is now a very tight squeeze over that to drop into the cave (warning: if it wasn't for the fact that my companion that day decided to stay outside things could have gotten pretty nasty, its a very awkward thrutch to get into and straight onto a clay slope so no grip on the way out) However, a very impressive, enormous rift system with various cross rifts leading off, unfortunately I was unable to locate 'Clarty gap' to make it through into the parallel rift series  :-\  (EDIT: it should also be noted that this cave has a plentiful supply of odd, salmon pink clay the consistency of custard, I had to walk a mile and a bit back to the car looking like Swamp thing would if he was dressed by Ben Sherman)

WE also spent a good few hours on the Teesdale side of the hill as well, my main target here was Far beck bridge cave, locating it was the first task, which turned out to be surprisingly easy its about 3 meters from the side of the road  :D
The entrance is a tight drop and twist affair leading into (for once) walking size passages, the first 10 meters of so is a delightful clay bank which makes one squirm around like a seal until all of a sudden dropping into a nicely decorated passage way:
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We pushed 'Round the bend with Richard' at the back of the cave but due to it being (very) wet weather out it appeared to be sumped.  Annoyingly after going home and re-reading the information in MSG12 I'm also now regretting not looking further into the smaller streamway that cuts across the main passage not long after the entrance....all things to do another day.


 

richardg

Active member
Interesting trip report and photographs Wormy. :coffee:

You were perhaps wise choosing to exit the cave having found a sump at" round the bend with Richard" taking into account the weather, as  the entire entire cave will occasionally flood...

However as your team may already be aware.......... the promise  is there geologically for some very large passage, upstream and beyond "round the bend with Richard" as well as possibly beyond the other stream way which you mention...

Downstream as you will have seen are quite small outlets for the stream though I think the Resurgence is a far way further down the dale....... Someone may have done a dye test...  But upstream a determined push is sure to be rewarded......

Richard......
 

Wormy

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Do you mean upstream in the main cave or in the streamway that cuts across it just inside the entrance? I've been talking to the people that surveyed it and opinions seem to differ as to whether that's the same stream that's in Lunehead mine caverns, although we did find Rennie Gill level and confirmed that we can fit up the tube, think we have also worked out a transit method to get in/out.  Saying that the level behind it does not look in the best condition.

We also looked at the risings that YURT poked about with a few years back and found a whopping sink with possible dig possibilities up on the moor above Lunehead mine shops.  There's a loooooooot of possibilities in that valley.
 

Wormy

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Its not, what happened at John O' pot is a whole different story.  This is on the south side of the road that runs parallel to Cleve beck, the stream is still marked as being there on the OS map but now sinks about 200 yards south of the road.  To the west of the sink (approx 3 meters) is a boulder pile which we started shifting by hand, below this a tube into limestone can be seen joining with the active stream way.

On the OS map just south of the track down to Lunehead mine shops is a track heading south in a kind of inverted question mark shape, there is a stream that runs along side it but that is no longer there, that's the sink I'm on about.

 

richardg

Active member
Wormy,.

I found a piece of correspondence yesterday whilst I  was searching out a survey for a friend.

Its from the Moldiwarps library

its a letter written by a man who caved in the area back in the 1950's

He mentions, to quote....

"Jingle Holes - Swindale Pots was dyed with (I cant read the number) pounds of fluorecine, which emerged at the Punch Bowl Hotel some 23 hours later"

I hope this is useful to you
 

blackshiver

Member
The stream cutting across the passage in Far Beck Bridge cave was surveyed by myself and ACH. I did not push the stream way to a definite conclusion due to time constraints, but remember it as a sandy floored inlet that I thought might be from the surface stream.

The lunehead streamway was a much more disgusting thing in a flat out bedding which was very muddy and having been in both I would be surprised if they were related.

I think I might be the only person to have been through the tubes into the level below the embankment. I was a sixteen year old school kid and MSG secret weapon who got pushed in there late on a Friday night back in the seventies. The pipes are not flush with the wall on the inside and stick out a considerable way. Inside the level had thigh deep mud which was absolutely exhausting over quite some distance. Discretion proved the better part of valour and completely exhausted I tied a rope round my wrists and was pulled though the tube head first with arms in front. I remember this like it was yesterday and it was nearly forty years ago. That says a lot.

Good Luck and keep us posted.
 
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