Robert Scott
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Does anyone known of a club that has registered under the current Data Protection Act?
Robert Scott said:Does anyone known of a club that has registered under the current Data Protection Act?
wormster said:Am I right in thinking that if you hold "electronic" records of your members you have to be registered??
c**tplaces said:Unlike the government of course!
1. Any man, monkey and idiot can see your information in fact it is SENT to others by mistake to look at.
2. Kept for all time.
3. Excessive, convicted or not, innocent or not if you end up at a police station your DNA can be forcefully removed from you.
4. Accurate, hmmm, we are talking government based IT systems here!
5. Again Kept for all time.
6. HAHA Rights! If I am innocent why do they get to keep the DNA?
7. Secure - HAHAHA - Government IT, see point 1 - ID Cards
8. You mean like sharing with the Americans for 'anti-terrorists' reasons details of everyone who they seam fit. ID card details.
'They' know all about you.
newcastlecaver said:but why do you care? - someone who steals your car who has previous convictions and has given a DNA sample may be caught through this etc etc- I've got nothing to hide and don't care if they have my DNA or not- I think some people get caught up in the belief that people working for the government spend days looking up people like ourselves and 'watching us'!- yes they have the opportunity to, but only use it when necessary- We're quite simply not important or interesting enough.
Driving to the Dales from Newcastle, I am probably 'caught' on an incredible number of CCTV cameras and my car movements may be logged etc, but there isn't then a person compiling all this data with a file marked 'Graham's day out Jun 07'! Stop being paranoid and getting caught in the hype of conspiracy/ big brother world hysteria.
Thank you to all who responded (albeit some were slightly adrift or just paddling their own canoe). Thanks to Dave Cooke for the useful link to the ico site.Cookie said:Try http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/forms/notification_exemptions_-_self-assessment_guide.pdf
This guide will lead you step by step through the process of deciding if you need to be registered.
Question 8 is the one that will let most caving clubs of the hook.
But even if you don't have to register, thereby saving £35 per year, you still have to observe the eight Data Protection Principles.
In summary they require that data shall be:
1. fairly and lawfully processed
2. processed for limited purposes
3. adequate, relevant and not excessive
4. accurate
5. not kept longer than necessary
6. processed in accordance with the data subjects’ rights
7. secure
8. not transferred to countries outside the EEA without adequate
protection.
Which of course we do :halo:
newcastlecaver said:I've got nothing to hide ...
Dave H said:OK, nothing to hide, so how much did you earn last year?
yeah, but I bet you were paid twice what you earnt.gus horsley said:Dave H said:OK, nothing to hide, so how much did you earn last year?
Not nearly enough!
graham said:yeah, but I bet you were paid twice what you earnt.gus horsley said:Dave H said:OK, nothing to hide, so how much did you earn last year?
Not nearly enough!
Sorry, I can't reveal any more - Data Protection Act and all that....
graham said:yeah, but I bet you were paid twice what you earnt.
kay said:graham said:yeah, but I bet you were paid twice what you earnt.
earnt?!
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