Data Protection Act

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wormster

Guest
Robert Scott said:
Does anyone known of a club that has registered under the current Data Protection Act?
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Am I right in thinking that if you hold "electronic" records of your members you have to be registered??

(mind you I could be wrong)
 
AndyF

AndyF

New member
wormster said:
Am I right in thinking that if you hold "electronic" records of your members you have to be registered??
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No....  ;)

There is no need to do this for your club members.
 
SamT

SamT

Moderator
Just been discussing this at our club (vaguely).

As far as I can tell - my interperation of the DPA are that at a club level, there is no problem with it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Protection_Act

besides - who's gonna be looking.
 
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martinr

Active member
http://www.ico.gov.uk/Global/faqs/data_protection_for_organisations.aspx#fB76CADAF-01A7-4C4E-A1C1-10B75A181E51

Q: What do I need to do under the Data Protection Act?
If you are required to comply with the Act, you have a number of legal responsibilities:

- to notify the Information Commissioner you are processing information, unless you are an organisation who has personal information only for:

staff administration (including payroll);
advertising, marketing and public relations for your own business; or
accounts and records (some not-for-profit organisations)

 
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wormster

Guest
OK, I stand corrected on this one.

thank you all for clearing up the situation.
 
Cookie

Cookie

New member
Try http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/forms/notification_exemptions_-_self-assessment_guide.pdf

This guide will lead you step by step through the process of deciding if you need to be registered.

Question 8 is the one that will let most caving clubs of the hook.

But even if you don't have to register, thereby saving £35 per year, you still have to observe the eight Data Protection Principles.

In summary they require that data shall be:
1. fairly and lawfully processed
2. processed for limited purposes
3. adequate, relevant and not excessive
4. accurate
5. not kept longer than necessary
6. processed in accordance with the data subjects’ rights
7. secure
8. not transferred to countries outside the EEA without adequate
protection.

Which of course we do  :halo:
 
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darkplaces

Guest
Unlike the government of course!  o_O

1. Any man, monkey and idiot can see your information in fact it is SENT to others by mistake to look at.
2. Kept for all time.
3. Excessive, convicted or not, innocent or not if you end up at a police station your DNA can be forcefully removed from you.
4. Accurate, hmmm, we are talking government based IT systems here!
5. Again Kept for all time.
6. HAHA Rights! If I am innocent why do they get to keep the DNA?
7. Secure - HAHAHA - Government IT, see point 1 - ID Cards
8. You mean like sharing with the Americans for 'anti-terrorists' reasons details of everyone who they seam fit. ID card details.

'They' know all about you.  :mad:
 
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newcastlecaver

New member
c**tplaces said:
Unlike the government of course!  o_O

1. Any man, monkey and idiot can see your information in fact it is SENT to others by mistake to look at.
2. Kept for all time.
3. Excessive, convicted or not, innocent or not if you end up at a police station your DNA can be forcefully removed from you.
4. Accurate, hmmm, we are talking government based IT systems here!
5. Again Kept for all time.
6. HAHA Rights! If I am innocent why do they get to keep the DNA?
7. Secure - HAHAHA - Government IT, see point 1 - ID Cards
8. You mean like sharing with the Americans for 'anti-terrorists' reasons details of everyone who they seam fit. ID card details.

'They' know all about you.  :mad:
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but why do you care? - someone who steals your car who has previous convictions and has given a DNA sample may be caught through this etc etc- I've got nothing to hide and don't care if they have my DNA or not- I think some people get caught up in the belief that people working for the government spend days looking up people like ourselves and 'watching us'!- yes they have the opportunity to, but only use it when necessary- We're quite simply not important or interesting enough.

Driving to the Dales from Newcastle, I am probably 'caught' on an incredible number of CCTV cameras and my car movements may be logged etc, but there isn't then a person compiling all this data with a file marked 'Graham's day out Jun 07'! Stop being paranoid and getting caught in the hype of conspiracy/ big brother world hysteria.

Rant over....for now :)
 
AndyF

AndyF

New member
newcastlecaver said:
but why do you care? - someone who steals your car who has previous convictions and has given a DNA sample may be caught through this etc etc- I've got nothing to hide and don't care if they have my DNA or not- I think some people get caught up in the belief that people working for the government spend days looking up people like ourselves and 'watching us'!- yes they have the opportunity to, but only use it when necessary- We're quite simply not important or interesting enough.

Driving to the Dales from Newcastle, I am probably 'caught' on an incredible number of CCTV cameras and my car movements may be logged etc, but there isn't then a person compiling all this data with a file marked 'Graham's day out Jun 07'! Stop being paranoid and getting caught in the hype of conspiracy/ big brother world hysteria.
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Well I care a lot, because sooner or later the government will be selling the DNA data to insurance companies, medical companies etc. etc.

Think it's paranoia?

Well, the government has happily been selling electronic copies of the electoral register, it also sells vehicle registration information (to car clampers for example), and there are clauses in the "ID card" legislation to allow YOUR  information to be sold to banks, credit card companies etc. Irrespective of whether you have committed an offence or not.

Your DNA data WILL join this list, so you should care.

So you may have nothing to hide, but when did you sign up for someone to make a profit out of your DNA fingerprint? You have a basic human right to the privacy of your own body......

The job of government is to govern, not to turn into a pseudo-commercial enterprise that profits from data it has forcibly extrated from it's citizens, and who have no power to opt out....

When a buck is to be made from such data, corruption follows.....


Rant over....for now  ;)
 
Robert Scott

Robert Scott

Member
Cookie said:
Try http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/forms/notification_exemptions_-_self-assessment_guide.pdf

This guide will lead you step by step through the process of deciding if you need to be registered.

Question 8 is the one that will let most caving clubs of the hook.

But even if you don't have to register, thereby saving £35 per year, you still have to observe the eight Data Protection Principles.

In summary they require that data shall be:
1. fairly and lawfully processed
2. processed for limited purposes
3. adequate, relevant and not excessive
4. accurate
5. not kept longer than necessary
6. processed in accordance with the data subjects’ rights
7. secure
8. not transferred to countries outside the EEA without adequate
protection.

Which of course we do  :halo:
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Thank you to all who responded (albeit some were slightly adrift or just paddling their own canoe). Thanks to Dave Cooke for the useful link to the ico site.
 
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Dave H

Guest
newcastlecaver said:
I've got nothing to hide ...
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OK, nothing to hide, so how much did you earn last year?

Everybody has personal information they would rather not share with all and sundry !!!
 
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