Eldon Hole Thoughts

If a dig to empty it was to be organised, would you get involved?

  • Every spare minute

    Votes: 7 17.1%
  • Probably not

    Votes: 6 14.6%
  • At weekends

    Votes: 5 12.2%
  • Never, leave it well alone!

    Votes: 2 4.9%
  • When I could

    Votes: 21 51.2%

  • Total voters
    41

braveduck

Active member
They did have to have three goes at it ,but eventually got a profile of the chamber floor.
The equipment was experimental at the time.
 

braveduck

Active member
Well contact  the Craven it was on their meet.
Next problem the sort of reseachers that were doing this are not SRT types(would need a winch).

There is another possable home made method you might use.
You can get a seismic profile by stiking a metal plate on the ground with a sledge hammer.
You still need the geophones and a computer etc..
 

JAM

New member
Rather than excavate the lot straight away, why not just dig a wee passage through and stabilise with scaff like normal. Be more cost effective to find what you are looking for before you committ yourselves fully.

Count me in by the way !!!  (y)

Rich
 

Mrs Trellis

Well-known member
Just a few thoughts -

The shafts you mention imho are vein cavities; a form of speleogenesis seemingly confined to the Castleton area.

The excavation of the shaft mentioned in the 18thC accounts has long been a "project" of the EPC iirc. It was mentioned on the Credit Crunch expedition wish list; and Trevor Ford recommends it as a promising site for attention - along with the two huge dolines between Eldon Hole & the Slitherstones track.

Didn't Poole's use ground radar to find the big chamber which now has the borehole in?
 

SamT

Moderator
EPC did dig quite a deep shaft down the right hand side (looking down the slope). Still going, but a bit of a pain to dig. I've never looked down it to be honest. It was done in the early 2000's - but pre capping days. Could probably be sorted out and pushed on down.

Also - EPC had another little tat recently at the bottom of the slope in the centre. Went down about 2 meters to a solid floor.

First job that needs doing before any serious dig is attempted would be to dig a decent and stable shaft down and under the main arch through to the main chamber. The current crawl is a horrible little grovel past broken glass ,rotten tin sheet and what ever other dead things have found their way down there  :yucky:
 

Big Jim

Member
I think its high time Jase n Stick stopped feckin about with their geee-tars and got the EPC troops back to the south end dig.
 

AndyF

New member
I think Eldon hole would be a mammouth (!) task to dig. Think there are better prospects on offer for much less effort...
 

alastairgott

Well-known member
MRS Trellis, yes i can reliably inform you that poole's cavern did in fact use ground radar to find the big chamber with the bore hole in it. (i went to the karst meeting a couple of weeks ago, and John Gunn told us)
 

Pipster

Member
Big Jim said:
If I win daft money on the lottery my first big spend is on cranes n shit to empty it.

Thats exactly what I've said I do too!

We need an "Eldon Hole Lotto Syndicate". Get a couple of hundred people to subscribe every week and when (if) we win big we'll have the man power too.
 

seamoose

New member
Big Jim said:
I think its high time Jase n Stick stopped feckin about with their geee-tars and got the EPC troops back to the south end dig.
:LOL:

If anyone's interested our last dig there was in 2001.
Here's a sketch I made at the time of how it currently looks (assuming noone else has dug it since).

Digging in the floor is fairly easy - generally clay and smaller rocks. There are some larger rocks stored precariously in the shaft which could be capped and brought out.
The dig needs about 6 people as everything has to be brought out to main chamber.

Jase

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seamoose

New member
I would estimate it's about 20 foot or so from point B to the dig face.
I think those scaff bars were about 8 foot a piece.

I can't remember the overall depth from the main chamber - it could do with being surveyed using our modern gadgets...
 

DAN

New member
Well i know where i could borrow an old Track crane for a while. They actually do not cost that much money to buy. You could have one weekend per month where all clubs turn up for an 8 hour day. The spoil could be put down the many old shaft's around the area or just in the quarry. A 4x4 dumper would be up to the job but only opperated when it dry so as not to make a mess. It could be done between clubs as a major project over a few years with hardly any expense. It would be interesting to see if it enough people got involved to sort it?

Dan
 

Brains

Well-known member
Be interesting to see how deep a dig is needed to reach archaeological layers. If the Romans et al made offerings of good things the dig might be self funding! If open during the ice age and the interglacials there could be a lot of palaeontology down there as well. Think any mammoth would be past its sell by date by now but I am sure with a few spices it would be all right on a barbie with a few tinnies to wash it down.
How much for the crane and dumper?
 

Brains

Well-known member
Windy Knoll nearby apparently had a good fossil fauna, "fallen in" I presume. If Eldon was open at the same time I see no reason for it not to contain a similar assemblage.
I would expect during the Roman period such a chasm could have been seen as a gateway to the nether world. As such votive offerings may have been "deposited" in the depths. Pure speculation of course, but a dig would reveal all I hope
 
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