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Would you change your vote now?

royfellows

Well-known member
topcat said:
Stunning: so we keep changing the rules until we get the 'right' result eh?  Can we do that for general elections too?

You dont have to, just keep running referendums.

Old voters were a significant proportion of the Leave vote, so as they die off the result will gradually change until you get the 'right' one.
Of course, by the time that happens Scotland may have gone solo and be out of it, the economy steadied so some of the fear driven Remain will change sides, and there may not even be an EU left to be a member of.

Old saying, "Be careful what you wish for"

Back to sensible (I hope) comment. I was amazed at the pace of events once the result was known. Thinking about it everyone with potential to be affected by a 'Leave' result must have put contingency plans together, and as soon as the result was known, kicked them in.
Cameron started it, then they were all off.
Trouble is they have set a pace such as now it has a momentum all of its own. A juggernaut has been released and there is no stopping it, Forget second referendums, not going to happen.
 

Alex

Well-known member
The main reason why a second referendum, may be needed if it turns out what the leave camp was all lies, and it is really starting to look that way. Also some leave voters are wishing they had not, as were not expecting it to matter and was more of a protest vote, hence my original question.

Realistically it won't happen unless there is a general election called rather than a leadership race and one parties manifesto is to get us back into the EU before article 50 is enacted. This would be the best case scenario because Europe would hopefully be shook up enough by then to maybe change their ways after a couple of months replacing freedom of movement with freedom of labour for example.
 

royfellows

Well-known member
Alex said:
The main reason why a second referendum, may be needed if it turns out what the leave camp was all lies,

An interesting idea, having second elections because politicians lied before the first one!
:LOL:
 

NewStuff

New member
royfellows said:
because politicians lied

Do they really do anything else? Even local councillors seem to be all about what they can get, and what's good for them. How about we stick em all at the bottom of a deep mineshaft and start over?
 

ZombieCake

Well-known member
I'm well cheesed off.  I bought a lottery ticket the other day and my numbers didn't come up.  Clearly wrong so I think Camelot should continue to re-draw them until the right numbers in my opinion get get drawn. And sod everybody else whose numbers did come up.
Did Robert Mugabe start the re-vote to get the 'right' answer?
 

Madness

New member
Why did Cameron and his government deliver on their election pledge to hold a referendum?

Governments have broken pre-election pledges plenty of times in the past. It would have led to a bit of outcry and then would have been forgotten about.

Perhaps they really want out of Europe but want a scapegoat if it all goes t*ts up.
 

RobinGriffiths

Well-known member
Now Michael (Kingmaker) Gove decrees 'no Remainer shall become King. I see polarisation becoming steadily worse, and no good will come of it.
 

RobinGriffiths

Well-known member
It's legacy time!
Maggie - fight the unions and kill the coal industry
Major - Cones Hotline
Blair - Iraq
Brown - Fight an old biddy up north
Cameron - out of Europe (+ possible bonus Scotland out of Union)
Johnson - ? (but I expect he'll have a brown trousers situation before he's done)
 

Laurie

Active member
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RobinGriffiths

Well-known member
I think my beef is this. The UK government works on a 5 year cycle and have to molify their electorates. What I liked about the EU is that they could take the long view. Sure it was made by 'a faceless Eurocrat' but it was made with a sustainable future in mind.
 

Carbide1

New member
People are fed up with Blair and 'Heir to Blair' types as there's no discernible difference in political direction! Should they carry on with this vote 'till we get the right answer nonsense UKIP will be the benefactor of the next protest vote.
 

Madness

New member
Carbide1 said:
People are fed up with Blair and 'Heir to Blair' types as there's no discernible difference in political direction! Should they carry on with this vote 'till we get the right answer nonsense UKIP will be the benefactor of the next protest vote.

Bang on the button with this comment.

If the government fails to deliver on this I suspect we'll see a lot more votes for UKIP come the general election. Scary thought.
 

royfellows

Well-known member
A new thought:

Surely the forecasts of doom by Remain prior to the referendum are now part of the problem after the result?

This is substantiated by Osborne's statement this morning of "No emergency budget"
 
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