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Offline Stuart France

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Re: Update on Twll Du
« Reply #275 on: August 29, 2019, 11:41:22 pm »
Hmmm.  Not much going on here over the summer months... so replying to myself!

The new PDCMG website has gone live... with a photo of, er, the second entrance adorning their Home Page: see below.

Last November they voted to hold an EGM to review their single entrance policy after a decade of issues.  They explained the lack of progress at their June meeting in terms of the availablity of people to organise such a meeting.

They then agreed it should take place in November 2019 which is 10 years exactly after the last such meeting.

They agreed that plenty of notice should be given to member clubs and the caving community so as to consider the matter.

It is now nearly September and once again nothing has happened.


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Re: Update on Twll Du
« Reply #276 on: August 30, 2019, 10:20:33 am »
EGM November 2019? 

Time? Place? Date?

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Re: Update on Twll Du
« Reply #277 on: September 01, 2019, 07:19:40 pm »
EGM November 2019? 

Time? Place? Date?

No doubt that will be a secret until much nearer the time, for the reasons already discussed.


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Re: Update on Twll Du
« Reply #278 on: September 01, 2019, 08:36:38 pm »
How many entrances to the venue will there be and will they be locked ? :lol: :lol: :lol: 
 
 
 
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Re: Update on Twll Du
« Reply #279 on: September 02, 2019, 12:26:52 am »
You can get in through the bog window if you equip yourself with a beer crate.

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Re: Update on Twll Du
« Reply #280 on: September 02, 2019, 08:26:58 am »
Be quick though, any entraces to the venue might be concreted in  ;D
« Last Edit: September 02, 2019, 08:35:39 am by cavemanmike »

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Re: Update on Twll Du
« Reply #281 on: October 20, 2019, 09:02:48 pm »
Be quick though

PDCMG isn't known for being quick.

They decided in November 2018 to hold an EGM in early 2019 to review their entrances policy.  By the summer meeting of June 2019 they were offering excuses as to why this EGM had not happened.  Then it was decided to pick a date in December 2019, and inform their member clubs in September 2019 so that there would be plenty of time for discussions and a consensus to form.  None of that of course has happened.

They are due to hold another of their half-yearly open meetings which would be expected in November.  Nothing has happened on that front either:  no agenda, no date, no venue, no officers reports.  There's no minutes or even draft minutes of the last meeting meeting in June 2019 or the previous meeting in November 2018 meeting in the inpenetrable mess which is their minutes page, link below:
http://pdcmg.org.uk/minutes/#page-content

Basically, the PDCMG is defunct.  All the old timers but two have left in one way or another, and the two that remain are living in the past.   Can someone please tell me how many times the people still on the PDCMG actually go caving in Ogof Draenen?  OK, someone is retrieving the logbook periodically to produce a table of results (or getting someone else to do the consequential caving trip for them), and someone is checking the fixed aids (because they can't find anyone to stand as fixed aids officer), but I'm talking about proper caving trips to explore Ogof Draenen.  Is it zero?