Author Topic: Mysterious Cave/Tunnel Salcombe Area  (Read 566 times)

Offline tombarnes05

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5
Mysterious Cave/Tunnel Salcombe Area
« on: July 23, 2020, 09:07:58 pm »
Evening all,

This is my first post on this forum so apologies if I'm breaking any rules. I've read through and don't think I am.

Whilst out on the boat yesterday my Dad and I spotted a small opening in the cliff above a small isolated and tidal beach near Soar Mill Cove. The opening was highlighted by a stream of what we think is rust coming out of the cave and down the cliff.

We decided to beach the boat in this small cove to go and investigate. Upon closer inspection and a little wonder inside, we decided the cave was more of a man made tunnel.. We didn't go any deeper as we only had flipflops and a phone torch and thought we could go home and find lots of details and photos online..

After an hour of research we have found absolutely nothing.. does anyone recognise this tunnel/cave or know anything?

Sent from my GM1913 using Tapatalk


Offline nickwilliams

  • forum hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 1483
Re: Mysterious Cave/Tunnel Salcombe Area
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2020, 09:17:54 pm »
You might be better asking over on aditnow.co.uk which is a more mining oriented site.
"Economics is simply the branch of sociology that deals with people trading items and the fact that they use more numbers does not make it anymore of a science."

Offline tombarnes05

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5
Re: Mysterious Cave/Tunnel Salcombe Area
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2020, 10:29:56 pm »
Outside view up the cliff

Offline alastairgott

  • forum hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 1854
Re: Mysterious Cave/Tunnel Salcombe Area
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2020, 10:43:36 pm »
I've had a quick look on the Adit now maps, and cannot find anything around that area. From walks round there about 20years ago there were WW2 fortifications on the headland. So maybe it is something to do with that?

Only I can't find them on Google satellite I just know there are fortifications on that stretch of cliffs near overbecks.

Offline alastairgott

  • forum hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 1854
Re: Mysterious Cave/Tunnel Salcombe Area
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2020, 11:00:15 pm »
Stumbled upon a reference to a "bull-hole" on the devon live website, but it's full of flashing adverts and general rubbish. probably a better referance for it is

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tqgwAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA103&lpg=PA103&dq=%22Bull-hole%22+in+Salcombe&source=bl&ots=5_1tnVPJQ7&sig=ACfU3U1pLvaao8OUnduVI7oxt40bNzZkNA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiI3POpruTqAhXPTsAKHZ8tA7AQ6AEwCXoECAkQAQ

in Kingsbridge and Salcombe, with Intermediate Estuary, Historically and Topographically Depicted
by Abraham Hawkins, ‎A. J. Hawkins - 1819 - ‎Kingsbridge (Devon, England)

Offline ZombieCake

  • forum hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 1045
Re: Mysterious Cave/Tunnel Salcombe Area
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2020, 01:01:57 am »
Hi,
Do you have an approximate grid ref or lat long or a 'X' on google earth map?

Offline tombarnes05

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5
Re: Mysterious Cave/Tunnel Salcombe Area
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2020, 08:46:00 am »
Hi all,

Thanks for the response and interest.

I believe bulls hole is in a cove at the mouth of the estuary.

For some reason I'm limited on the number of photos I can add so I've created a Google photos Album for you to access. There is also a screen shot of the grid reference on maps and you can see the rust stream coming out the cave.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5Ps3ZX2xnAsDgueA6


Sent from my GM1913 using Tapatalk


Offline Wayland Smith

  • stalker
  • ***
  • Posts: 275
Re: Mysterious Cave/Tunnel Salcombe Area
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2020, 09:08:19 am »
Don't know anything about the area
but interestingly on older O/S maps it is called Sewer.
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=50.22376&lon=-3.82378&layers=171&b=1

Offline tombarnes05

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5
Re: Mysterious Cave/Tunnel Salcombe Area
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2020, 09:17:27 am »
Very interesting thank you. I believe sewer mill is not known as soar mill cove and it's further west up the coast.

That map does show a lot though including these references in the same cove.

Sent from my GM1913 using Tapatalk


Offline mikem

  • forum hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 3632
  • Mendip Caving Group
Re: Mysterious Cave/Tunnel Salcombe Area
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2020, 09:47:03 am »
It appears that Hugh's hole is an enclosed beach & ferny holes / Vincent pits are natural features:
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/58456/58456-h/58456-h.htm

Offline mikem

  • forum hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 3632
  • Mendip Caving Group
Re: Mysterious Cave/Tunnel Salcombe Area
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2020, 10:42:55 am »
This report mentions an unsuccessful copper mine at Ralph's hole being worked by John Easton of Dodbrook in 1770 (at SX67943875 - which is close enough to make no difference as they didn't look for it & it was iron pyrites):
https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/9d246c_35a9f9cb9d4e4f679f617941b65231f4.pdf

Reference comes from here (p.111, same book Alastair linked):
https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Kingsbridge_and_Salcombe_with_the_Interm.html?id=tqgwAAAAYAAJ&redir_esc=y

Also mentioned in this, along with others nearer Bolt Tail & a bit further north at Thurlstone:
https://www.thurlestoneparish.co.uk/uploads/4/8/9/6/48967079/village_voice_2004_number_129.pdf
« Last Edit: July 24, 2020, 11:08:33 am by mikem »

Offline tombarnes05

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5
Re: Mysterious Cave/Tunnel Salcombe Area
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2020, 10:46:47 am »
We've also just found this and it looks like this is the failed copper mine. I'm surprised nobody else has looked or found it before.

Thanks for your help all.

Sent from my GM1913 using Tapatalk


Offline mikem

  • forum hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 3632
  • Mendip Caving Group
Re: Mysterious Cave/Tunnel Salcombe Area
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2020, 10:54:27 am »
The parish news names someone who had explored it, & you're right, it is rust washing out, from the iron pyrites.

Offline AR

  • Black shadow
  • forum hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 1266
  • PDMHS, ATAC, ANHMS
Re: Mysterious Cave/Tunnel Salcombe Area
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2020, 11:01:58 am »
The profile of the adit is typical of an 18th century mine level, if you ask on Aditnow you probably will find that there are people there who know more about it.

Edit - just noticed that you have posted there.
Dirty old mines need love too....

 

Main Menu

Forum Home Help Search