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Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« on: November 01, 2021, 06:08:57 pm »
I've been asked by a journalist I was working with on another project about quote:

"Just researching for a different story. You mentioned there were some amazingly accomplished female cavers in the UK. Can you suggest a couple who might make good interviews for a possible story on female adventurers? Thanks so much"

What do ye think? What Women/Female cavers inspire you and why?

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2021, 06:22:58 pm »
Sent a mail with some suggestions...

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2021, 10:05:27 pm »
Hi Steph, we all know that you're the baddest caver around  ;D
But I'd like to put forward my wife, Bex. She's not discovered any new cave or dug out a few metres of passageway, but she goes caving lots! She's done loads of good stuff all over Britain, a bit in France and a couple of trips to Mallorca as well. 50% of honeymoon was spent exploring the jungle caves in northern Thailand - that's dedication! She'd probably excel more at caving if it wasn't for the fact that she loves mountain biking; she's bloody good at it too - far better than me. And road biking; she's bloody good at that too - nearly as good as me. And climbing. And walking. And canoeing (she's very good at that!).
She works in an outdoor centre passing on the skills in these sports to the team of instructors that she manages. She leads from the front, and she's good at it.
She plans activities and holidays for her step kids and they love it.
My point is that in many ways she's just a 'normal' person with a job, a family and a house; but she's a great caver as well. And that's what I find most inspiring.

And isn't this the case for most of us? I don't know any 'professional' cavers in the way we have professional climbers, paddlers, footballers; any great achievements in caving have been done in our free time. Because we want to. Not to please a sponsor and ensure our next pay packet, but because it seemed like a good idea amongst a bunch of friends.
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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2021, 11:01:54 pm »
Becca Lawson - exceptionally good and dedicated surveyor, caver and all round good egg.
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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2021, 12:18:00 am »
Becca Lawson - exceptionally good and dedicated surveyor, caver and all round good egg.
1st suggestion.
Becca Lawson has done more for caving than most people who go caving period, I would also suggest Becca, as she is a great inspiration to me and many other women, with her expeditions, and cave mapping and surveying.

2nd suggestion Pegasus, from the UK Caving forums, she is such a great community manager, she runs the Forum competitions, and has a good laugh in the forums.

3rd suggestion would be, Melissa Milner, from the DCA, she did a lot for cave conservation and access, but sadly she passed away,

 

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2021, 12:07:19 pm »
Becca Lawson - exceptionally good and dedicated surveyor, caver and all round good egg.
1st suggestion.
Becca Lawson has done more for caving than most people who go caving period, I would also suggest Becca, as she is a great inspiration to me and many other women, with her expeditions, and cave mapping and surveying.

2nd suggestion Pegasus, from the UK Caving forums, she is such a great community manager, she runs the Forum competitions, and has a good laugh in the forums.

3rd suggestion would be, Melissa Milner, from the DCA, she did a lot for cave conservation and access, but sadly she passed away,

 :kiss2:  aw, thank you.

My suggestion would be Deb Limbert - one of the truly lovliest people I know and caver extraordinaire.

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2021, 12:08:43 pm »
Becca Lawson - exceptionally good and dedicated surveyor, caver and all round good egg.

Agreed  :)

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2021, 12:21:44 pm »
Di A
Holly B
Adele W
Deb L
Becka L
Emma W
Emma (other one ;-)
Ruth Mc D
Liz L

etc etc  Quite a few but not enough  ;D

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2021, 01:19:26 pm »
I'm sure I watched a lecture on Austria at HE and saw Hannah? climbing the most exposed ladder - I was mega impressed. What an amazing caver   ;D

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2021, 01:37:43 pm »
Hazel Barton - the american Prof who spoke at Eurospelo and article in descent.
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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2021, 01:37:58 pm »
I'm sure I watched a lecture on Austria at HE and saw Hannah? climbing the most exposed ladder - I was mega impressed. What an amazing caver   ;D

Could be Hannah "H" Moulton of SUSS/DCRO/BPC. She'd be my choice, although she's just set off to spend 18 months being a guide escorting Antarctic Researchers to field sites, so might be hard to contact for interview. Definitely worth trying though!
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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2021, 02:07:26 pm »
You'll not bve able to interview either of these two ladies as they passed away a long time ago. But both Mossy Powell and Nellie Kirkham were up there with the greats, in my opinion.

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2021, 04:56:57 pm »
I think it's fair to say that Alison Moody has probably done more for Mendip caving than any other woman (in fact more than most people of either sex).

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2021, 05:00:20 pm »
Surprised Christine Grosart not listed.

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2021, 05:11:49 pm »

My suggestion would be Deb Limbert - one of the truly lovliest people I know and caver extraordinaire.

Can second this, from having caved and worked with Deb, she's absolutely nails.
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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2021, 05:16:59 pm »
Have a word with Katie Eavis, watching her and Beth? wrestle a calf out of a mineshaft not too long ago on a DCRO shout was pretty impressive.

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2021, 05:21:17 pm »
How about Gina Mosely, who organised and led an expedition to North Eastern Greenland in search of caves and is heading back there again soon.  There aren't that many lady cave scientists and she's definitely special.

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2021, 05:47:23 pm »

I was going to suggest Gina  https://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=28735.0#new

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Fleur Loveridge - University Academic Fellow engaged in research about ground engineering.
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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2021, 06:22:06 pm »
I’d suggest Emma Heron as one of the hardest cavers and divers I know, who also scores additional points by being reserved and modest about her ability! Some excellent underwater exploration in the Dales and abroad as well as a spell minding the CDG NS.

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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2021, 06:23:26 pm »
I’d suggest Emma Heron as one of the hardest cavers and divers I know, who also scores additional points by being reserved and modest about her ability! Some excellent underwater exploration in the Dales and abroad as well as a spell minding the CDG NS.

Seconded!   :thumbsup:

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2021, 06:35:42 pm »
...and Jess Burkey for putting up with standing in freezing water etc etc for Mark's photos if nothing else!!  ;D

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2021, 08:39:05 am »
My List for what its worth
Hazel Barton
Gina Mosely
Emma Porter
Christine Grosart
Kay (from the dudley)
Diane Arthurs
Laura Trowbridge

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2021, 09:38:40 am »
I am not sure that I like lists like that. What does anyone have to do to be " inspirational " ? Many people who are good at what they do are quiet about it. They don't resort to social media to promote their activities. They just get on with it. I suppose the whole thing parallels with the honours lists. Its just representative. Almost to the point of meaningless. I have caved with lots of ladies. Why even single them out ? Many are just as good as the blokes they cave with anyway. Certainly they make better cave models. Lets face it ladies are biologically tougher than us blokes anyway. Civilization would cease to exist if men were the child bearers. Even by compiling such a list you are placing those people in a competitive  arena. Why should anyone of them be better than the other ? Some are good at diving some other areas. The whole notion is nonsense and its a daft and sexist question to ask in my opinion.

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2021, 09:46:05 am »
Because it answers the OP's question...

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Re: Inspirational women cavers in Britian
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2021, 09:55:39 am »
The whole notion is nonsense and its a daft and sexist question to ask in my opinion.

I think you've missed the point TOR.

It remains a fact that less women cave than men, yet as you have pointed out yourself, women make equally good cavers as men (the same I believe is true of rock climbing and a number of other sports, where the physical differences between men and women do not affect performance).

As such, it is surely a good thing for "inspirational" women cavers to be recognised/ interviewed/ whatever else, to inspire more women to take up this great sport. If you see someone like yourself who is good at something, you are more likely to think "I could be good at that too, I'll give it a go"

This is the same reason there is "Women in Engineering" (and presumably other similar organisations that I haven't come across) to encourage more women to get involved in something that is currently much more male dominated, but really needn't be.

 

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