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Car break ins
« on: May 11, 2021, 01:39:59 pm »
Quite a sensible proposal from Tony Oldham that I found in a 1992 edition of Descent!

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2021, 02:11:09 pm »
Samurai law, mm.
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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2021, 02:56:10 pm »
Fame at last.

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2021, 03:20:04 pm »
Where Tony leads, the Taliban follow.

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2021, 05:29:59 pm »
Where Tony leads, the Taliban follow.

Is Taliban a place in Wales?
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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2021, 06:50:00 pm »
Where Tony leads, the Taliban follow.

Is Taliban a place in Wales?


That would make it talliban

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2021, 07:37:29 pm »
Thought the pushment for a first offence was crucifixion?  It'll do though.

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2021, 08:17:40 pm »
In search of taverns measureless to man

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2021, 09:17:21 pm »
Tal-y-Ban could mean 'high hills'

This isn't doing any favours in distancing us Welshies from that Irishman O'Sama  ;D

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2021, 09:59:02 pm »
I remember reading in a sci-fi book that some philosopher had developed a way to rid society of crimson one generation. Observing that crime tends to run in families he proposed that anyone committing a crime be sterilised. Of course the society wanted quicker results so they just executed any criminal.
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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2021, 10:15:49 pm »

...he proposed that anyone committing a crime be sterilised.


You don't need to read sci-fi books to get that; the Daily Mail will do nicely for that....
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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2021, 12:21:35 pm »
Is Taliban a place in Wales?
Look what you started Dave!
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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2021, 12:50:42 pm »
One suggestion from a guy I used to cave with that I like was this.  Instead of the police putting up signs advising car owners not to leave valuables in the car put up a sign outlining what measures said car owner could legally take, up to an including "reasonable force" if they caught someone breaking into their car.

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2021, 02:40:12 pm »
Most owners are not around when their cars are broken into. I can't see how a sign describing an owners limited powers under the law would help any?

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2021, 03:01:05 pm »
"reasonable force"

In most instances this would consist of the owner shouting "Stop breaking into my car" and the thief running off. Any more force than this in the circumstances would be an assault by the car owner.

I'm struggling to see how a sign stating this would help.
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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2021, 03:33:32 pm »
Its how you tell em

"He came at me with the screwdriver, crow bar, knife etc and I had no option but to defend myself.
So starteth the sixth kata, what we would call "Heian Godan Bunkai"

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2021, 05:41:13 pm »
Sorry Constable, he tripped over my tacklebag, slid all the way up Ingleborough and fell down Gaping Gill...

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2021, 06:05:50 pm »
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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2021, 06:20:51 pm »
Ah, the well used Jury/Judge/Magistrate is stupid defence.
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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2021, 05:19:08 pm »
I was having a discussion with a cid friend of mine a couple of years ago about house burglary and how I would bury them in the Muck heap to which he said whatever you do when you kill them phone the police and say a burglar broke in and attack you.
You are more likely to get away with it

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2021, 06:32:37 pm »
"reasonable force"

In most instances this would consist of the owner shouting "Stop breaking into my car" and the thief running off. Any more force than this in the circumstances would be an assault by the car owner.

I'm struggling to see how a sign stating this would help.


A common myth, that has little basis in fact.  In reality, reasonable force can quite legally be used to stop a crime in progress.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/self-defence-and-prevention-crime

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2021, 08:10:53 pm »
A common myth, that has little basis in fact.  In reality, reasonable force can quite legally be used to stop a crime in progress.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/self-defence-and-prevention-crime

That doesn't stop you getting knifed though does it.

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2021, 09:30:52 pm »
A common myth, that has little basis in fact.  In reality, reasonable force can quite legally be used to stop a crime in progress.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/self-defence-and-prevention-crime

That doesn't stop you getting knifed though does it.

"Other skills" stop me getting knifed.

Ah, well, now, you see...erm...

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2021, 10:40:56 pm »
My uncle (a caver) once caught two miscreants cutting their way into the vinyl sunroof of his car. He hurt them so badly with his bare hands his wife suggested they had to leave rather than call the cops. So that was the end of it.

Them were the days. Vinyl sunroofs that is.

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Re: Car break ins
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2021, 11:10:45 pm »
Is shopping allowed just in case? Purely from a self defence point of view of course.


 

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