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Question for petrol experts
« on: September 01, 2021, 03:38:47 pm »
This new E10 petrol - will it be OK to use in my Stihl strimmer? Or should I buy a premium petrol like Shell V-Power for it? Anyone know?   :shrug:

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Re: Question for petrol experts
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2021, 03:43:38 pm »
I know nuffink about this, but a dip into Google I read 
 "...but we can reassure you that petrol with an ethanol content of 10% or less, like the new E10 petrol will not cause a problem with your STIHL petrol tool...."   (source: https://blog.stihl.co.uk/how-will-e10-petrol-affect-your-stihl-chainsaw/)
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2021, 03:50:48 pm »
I think E10 eats away at the type of rubber used in older fuel lines. This is why older cars might not be compatible. So unless your strimmer is more than 20 years old it should be alright.

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Re: Question for petrol experts
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2021, 04:54:58 pm »
This new E10 petrol - will it be OK to use in my Stihl strimmer? Or should I buy a premium petrol like Shell V-Power for it? Anyone know?   :shrug:

TBH you should be using a premium petrol in it anyway along with a fuel conditioner/stabiliser.
Premium doesn't degrade as quickly as regular petrol and degrading of petrol is a major cause of breakdowns and poor running in strimmers, chainsaws, mowers etc as they typically don't get heavy use particularly in a domestic / DIY setting and especially over the winter.

Ah, well, now, you see...erm...

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Re: Question for petrol experts
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2021, 05:05:46 pm »
Have I missed something, or has this been snuck through under the radar?

Certainly won't be putting this stuff in my old V8 Land Rover!  :o

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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2021, 05:25:04 pm »
From UK Gov website - so believable?

E10 petrol is cleared for use in all Land Rover vehicles with petrol engines starting from model year 1996.Older vehicles should continue to use E5.


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Re: Question for petrol experts
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2021, 05:36:55 pm »
I found that, hence it won't be going anywhere near mine (pre-96), though I expect I'll be paying a premium on "proper" petrol instead...

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Re: Question for petrol experts
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2021, 05:59:32 pm »
what's actually involved for an old landy?  "just" a new fuel line and new filter? or are there gaskets/o-rings in float chamber etc in the carb that means you'd need a carb rebuild kit or something. Sounds like a mini project rather than a quick job?
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Re: Question for petrol experts
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2021, 06:10:14 pm »
I found that, hence it won't be going anywhere near mine (pre-96), though I expect I'll be paying a premium on "proper" petrol instead...

It will run better anyway we run our car and my caddy on the good stuff, cleaner and more MPG   :thumbsup:
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2021, 07:06:40 pm »
I have always used the standard petrol in all my garden machines , is a good question I have a good repair company near by me I shall ask them their views  :read:

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Re: Question for petrol experts
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2021, 07:54:44 pm »
Some really valuable points made above, for which thanks. Special thanks to Tomferry for offering to ask "them as know".

My Stihl strimmer is at least 20 years old. Never had any real problem but I always run it dry if it's not going to be used for a while, to prevent the carb getting gummed up. It's been a good 'un and I just didn't want to wreck it unnecessarily (hence the original question about petrol).

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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2021, 08:47:29 pm »
I use https://aspenfuel.co.uk in my petrol powered tools. I'm not sure I buy all the hype but it certainly seems to make them easier to start after they have been stored for a while.
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2021, 11:23:00 pm »
Easy when you know how:



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Re: Question for petrol experts
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2021, 06:42:37 am »
That is interesting. Mind you, for the amount that I get through in my Land Rover, it would be a bit of a faff.

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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2021, 07:44:38 am »
Some really valuable points made above, for which thanks. Special thanks to Tomferry for offering to ask "them as know".

My Stihl strimmer is at least 20 years old. Never had any real problem but I always run it dry if it's not going to be used for a while, to prevent the carb getting gummed up. It's been a good 'un and I just didn't want to wreck it unnecessarily (hence the original question about petrol).

All of my machines are stihl so it’s definitely worth asking it hadn’t popped into my mind so I am glad you mentioned it , stihl in my view are built to last and very robust  , this is why the Forestry commission always use them , I have a petrol hedge cutter long and short arm , 460 chainsaw and a bull arm strimmer , I shall call the place that has always done my repairs they do the work for all the estates tools I work at and many other estates .

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Re: Question for petrol experts
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2021, 07:53:49 am »
Great - thanks!  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2021, 08:40:00 am »
Just open a gate and let the sheep in. Bin the strimmer.

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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2021, 09:15:12 am »
I have just got of the phone to the machine expert.

I asked the question can I use the new e10 fuel in my Honda mowers their are 4 at work and a large ride on with many other machines billy goats scarification machines + all the stihl equipment I mentioned earlier.

He answered no I have read up largely on this over long periods of time this shall rot the seals out in the engine and fuel lines , his advice is use the current time ultimate fuels that shall still exist it’s not worth risking it with good machines to save a few pence .  Especially for home use where you might only use 20L in a hole year ! His actual words was tell the boss to stop being a tight ar*e tw*t but that’s another story .

He said he also recommends the last use of the year to use aspen fuel and store it with this Inside  over the winter .

https://aspenfuel.co.uk/


I am not recommending using the aspen as I think it’s over priced , all my machines will go on the bp ultimate and be stored run dry and empty as they always have been  :thumbsup:

Hope this is of some help pitlamp

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Re: Question for petrol experts
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2021, 11:30:19 am »
All valuable advice Tomferry - many thanks for following it up!

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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2021, 11:36:32 am »
Does Not have to be BP Ultimate any premium grade 98 octane fuel is the same , Esso Supreme , Shell V Power . Stay away from supermarket brands that is poor quality fuel. I have a friend that drives petrol tankers and he told me .
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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2021, 11:42:06 am »
We were also told by our local garage to avoid cheap supermarket fuel; a bit late, as the engine of our car had got 'gunged up' with thick black deposits, which I spent hours chipping away at, before the garage were able to rebuild the engine.

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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2021, 12:02:06 pm »
Does Not have to be BP Ultimate any premium grade 98 octane fuel is the same , Esso Supreme , Shell V Power . Stay away from supermarket brands that is poor quality fuel. I have a friend that drives petrol tankers and he told me .

Should of pointed that out  any premium fuel it’s because bp is are “local”

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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2021, 01:51:53 pm »
I think a lot of other countries (example Australia?) have use 91 grade petrol (which I think is 10% ethanol) for some years now. They have bigger engines though and maybe fuel lines etc that are compatible, my inlaws' cars' are typically larger V engines and 4wd due to bush driving. I haven't been out there for years but last time I teased them about their watered down petrol but they drove fine on multi day journeys and unmetalled roads

No help with the original strimmer question, sorry, but for people with larger engines anyway: they don't seem to suffer from pinking problems.
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Re: Question for petrol experts
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2021, 02:18:21 pm »
Does Not have to be BP Ultimate any premium grade 98 octane fuel is the same , Esso Supreme , Shell V Power . Stay away from supermarket brands that is poor quality fuel. I have a friend that drives petrol tankers and he told me .
Not so, and an oft-repeated fallacy. "Which?" Debunk the idea, and although premium brands can contain additional additives, it,'s largely marketing speil, there being no evidence damage is caused by running on the supermarket stuff.
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