Amy said:... It's really pure grossness and it stinks. BUT IT IS SO MUCH FUN.
n?π said:Looks like a stout to me.
Amy said:It's really pure grossness and it stinks.
Amy said:Looks awesome!
paul said:
ttxela said:paul said:
Is the full version of this available? I recall instructions were posted on how to view it but I rather lost heart with them as it didn't seem to work for me![]()
I was reading about the cave and that came up, yeahdroid said:Amy said:Looks awesome!
It is.
It has a tidal sump and the mud is renewed twice a day. So it never dries out, and it gets everywhere... :![]()
Amy said:I was reading about the cave and that came up, yeahdroid said:Amy said:Looks awesome!
It is.
It has a tidal sump and the mud is renewed twice a day. So it never dries out, and it gets everywhere... :![]()
I was telling my TAG friend about it and he asked if I had a death wish
I totally am adding Otter Hole to my "to do" cave list next time I'm over there (I am watching airline prices like a hawk...again it seems the cheaper flights will be later in the year as standard - usually Oct/Nov and Feb/March are the cheapest flight times to get a Detroit to London flight)
Amy said:Actually, I really love how ya'all manage your caves over there...it seems to work really well and I don't see near the vandalism that we get in the US caves and even the conditions that (i'm assuming well-used caves like GB and such) popular caves are in are amazing. Here since there is rarely access control and the more popular ones are well known by non-cavers they just get trashed with years of use from people who don't cave softly. Not just trash in the beer cans/garbage/human excrement type but broken/knocked down/now missing formations and spraypaint graffiti as well as etched in graffiti...![]()
No problemgraham said:Amy said:Actually, I really love how ya'all manage your caves over there...it seems to work really well and I don't see near the vandalism that we get in the US caves and even the conditions that (i'm assuming well-used caves like GB and such) popular caves are in are amazing. Here since there is rarely access control and the more popular ones are well known by non-cavers they just get trashed with years of use from people who don't cave softly. Not just trash in the beer cans/garbage/human excrement type but broken/knocked down/now missing formations and spraypaint graffiti as well as etched in graffiti...![]()
Thanks for that, Amy. We do get a lot of stick sometimes from people who believe that gating any cave is somehow a denial of their human rights. It's nice to get an outsider's perception of this, sometimes.