What you are Kenilworth is an American who has no clue what he is talking about. The lessons you have learnt in the states do not work here.
What you are Kenilworth is an American who has no clue what he is talking about.
American isn't an insult in this context, just that you have clearly no experience of caving here...
The very fact that if formal organisations died they would gradually reappear affirms that there is a cogent and relatively tight knit community. Something would arise again to serve its needs.
You would think him deep and incisive Cap'n, I've found you both equally vapid. Verbosity isn't a substitute for meaning
Your invitation to come and witness the community leaves me wondering how my caving experience would be enhanced by my doing so
These are needs I do not care about, that I in fact oppose.
FWIW I believe Kenilworth to be probably the most thoughtful, incisive and deep-thinking contributor to this forum; perhaps the "no clue what he is talking about" epithet is better attributed to other less meditative, yet shouty and arm-wavy, people, of which there appear to be many; weight of numbers (i.e. democracy/mob rule) does not equal correctness.
It's actually individuals that have restricted access to some caves, rather than organisations, although the club structure has occasionally extended this beyond necessity. The British caving association has no say over how things are controlled, but does provide information, insurance & liaison with larger organisations.
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