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sea caves in the UK
« on: October 21, 2021, 12:24:42 pm »
Hello,

What area of the UK (excluding Ireland) has the most coastal caves? Not looking for particularly deep caves, just somewhere you can actually walk into.

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2021, 12:37:44 pm »
No idea if it's the most but there's a good number, along with arches and inlets, at Flamborough (North Landing, Thornwick Bay) that can be walked into at low tide.
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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2021, 01:00:59 pm »
Far more around much of the west coast (from Dorset up to Shetland). Most of them haven't been counted.

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2021, 01:20:18 pm »
Pembrokeshire always seems to have quite a lot.

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2021, 02:43:33 pm »
Far more around much of the west coast (from Dorset up to Shetland). Most of them haven't been counted.

Thanks for the tip, but isn't Dorset on the South Coast? I am not a UK native so a bit confused about which part exactly you mean  :-\

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2021, 03:07:32 pm »
Dorset is on the south coast, but the west end of it! Caves tend to be lacking from there eastwards, although there are a few; whilst they continue around Devon & Cornwall onwards (even Somerset & Gwent have some - we have a book about it https://www.mcra.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=for_sale#somerset_underground_-_1 )

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2021, 04:09:35 pm »
I did suggest Cornwall.

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2021, 04:25:35 pm »
There's a good number on the east coast of Scotland that are accessible from land, some decent ones at Arbroath, New Aberdour or near Hopeman.
The gsg cave registery has loads shown although a reasonable number require a kayak to get to.
 https://registry.gsg.org.uk/sr/registrysearch.php

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2021, 05:22:14 pm »
There's some lovely features at Thornwick Bay near Flamborough - on the east coast chalk:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamborough_Head

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2021, 08:39:21 pm »
There's a good number on the east coast of Scotland that are accessible from land, some decent ones at Arbroath, New Aberdour or near Hopeman.
The gsg cave registery has loads shown although a reasonable number require a kayak to get to.
 https://registry.gsg.org.uk/sr/registrysearch.php

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Ditch the kayak!  Arbroath is a Mecca for coasteering!  Swim it!
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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2021, 09:44:26 am »
Dorset is on the south coast, but the west end of it! Caves tend to be lacking from there eastwards, although there are a few; whilst they continue around Devon & Cornwall onwards (even Somerset & Gwent have some - we have a book about it https://www.mcra.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=for_sale#somerset_underground_-_1 )

Great, now I have a better picture of the area you mean. And that book looks interesting. Thank you Mike  :)

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2021, 09:45:22 am »
Thanks so much for all those suggestions. I am seriously getting excited now. So much to explore  ;D

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2021, 10:34:32 am »
The Cornish coast is the longest in Britain with 422 miles.  I counted over 180 sea caves in the book Caves of Cornwall
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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2021, 08:52:48 pm »
The Cornish coast is the longest in Britain with 422 miles.  I counted over 180 sea caves in the book Caves of Cornwall

That's amazing...I think I will need to get that book!

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2021, 12:00:15 pm »
Some of them are shown on:
https://dcuc.org.uk/registry/r/registrysearch.php

Mike, I was actually wondering if such a map exists! I guess no map will show every single cave there is  :down: but this is a good start  :thumbsup:

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2021, 12:02:18 pm »
The Cornish coast is the longest in Britain with 422 miles.  I counted over 180 sea caves in the book Caves of Cornwall

That is an astonishing amount. There seem to be quite a few books out there that actually list caves. I will have to start hunting those book down I think  ;D

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2021, 05:48:45 pm »
There are separate registers for several areas, CNCC covers north (including Scotland), MCRA -: Somerset & Dorset (elsewhere on previous link I posted) & Wales:
http://www.cambriancavingcouncil.org.uk/registry/ccr_registry.php

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2021, 06:29:52 pm »
Scotland's east coast has had a mention but I don't think a comment has appeared about the west coast. Beyond Fingal's Cave, Smoo Cave (well nearly west(ish)) and the like there are many raised beaches with abandoned sea caves, Mull for example, which means walking to and in is easier and somewhat safer  :halo:

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2021, 07:02:11 pm »
Not specifically, but
Far more around much of the west coast (from Dorset up to Shetland). Most of them haven't been counted.

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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2021, 08:39:39 pm »
Not specifically, but
Far more around much of the west coast (from Dorset up to Shetland). Most of them haven't been counted.

Indeed, fair point, sorry.

Jim

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2021, 09:29:22 pm »
Hi Folks,
Interesting topic, these sea caves.  Most are not karstic and of little interest, except Fingals, for inspiration !

In warm interglacial periods, sea levels rose by as much as 100 metres, so some limestones were invaded by a brackish water-table. In Plymouth, the reef limestones are up to 800 feet deep, and work is being done via boreholes to establish the extent and nature of the halocline. There is evidence of some Devon caves having been formed along haloclines.
Linking cave's hydraulic profiles to haloclines is a growing field of research. Just think of the Chunnel construction !

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2021, 09:46:36 pm »
I guess the Gower is good for caves next to the sea (as opposed to sea caves)

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2021, 09:59:47 pm »
Some of which are sea caves, just on raised beaches...

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« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2021, 10:12:58 pm »
The cliffs along the South Beach in Tenby have some nice caves in Carboniferous limestone. Where I first went caving. I spent many years trying to dig into the semi-mythical secret tunnels under the town alluded to by craggy uncles smoking pipes on the harbour wall. The tide coming in was an issue - you had to abandon the dig or die, so Deja Vu all over again, frequently.

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2021, 10:22:50 am »
There are separate registers for several areas, CNCC covers north (including Scotland), MCRA -: Somerset & Dorset (elsewhere on previous link I posted) & Wales:
http://www.cambriancavingcouncil.org.uk/registry/ccr_registry.php

That is an awesome resource!  :thumbsup:

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2021, 10:55:11 am »
Northumberland has some great sea caves. The best are in the few miles of coastline between the mouth of the Tweed and the Scottish border, where there are 43 caves.

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2021, 06:59:50 am »
Totally overwhelmed by the response here!  :clap2: Thanks so much for the treasure trove of resources you provided. I am ready to go now  ;D


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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2021, 06:13:54 pm »
That's a great image, whatever it is! :)

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Re: sea caves in the UK
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2021, 06:49:10 am »
That's a great image, whatever it is! :)

Thanks! It is actually a close-up image of an oyster shell, but it somehow gives me cave vibes  ;D

 

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