Two of my clubs have advocated that people join the BCA directly to save the club having to administer the BCA payment...The comment of one advocate was basically that BCA had 'devalued' the club role in BCA, and by levelling membership fees between DIM/CIM there was no incentive for members to join BCA through a club, so we should shift the administrative burden to the BCA to prove a point.
Yes, Josh, not my views, just views that have been aired in my clubs My personal thoughts (and they may be ill-informed) were that if everyone signed up to BCA direct, the administration of producing and sending our membership cards would significantly increase.With club members, cards are sent to the club for distribution, which often then happens in person, or otherwise in the same envelope with the club journal/ newsletter. Posting out 6000 cards individually is clearly more effort, but I understand that this is done by one of the BCA's few paid employees, so at least it isn't an additional workload for volunteers...In the scheme of things, perhaps this is no big deal, but distribution of membership cards via clubs seems much more efficient.
Or phase out membership cards and replace them with a downloadable letter, available via BCA Online, for the small proportion of people who need to prove their BCA membership. Not as good for cutting cheese or scraping windscreens though...
in these days, when "1 use" plastic is going out of fashion, using cards that only last for 12 months is not very environmentally friendly.
Anybody who is genuinely worried about the impact of a BCA card, really needs to look at the rest of their life first.
If everyone of the billions in this world thought like you, that making a miniscule difference wasn't worth the effort then no wonder our oceans and countryside are full of shite.
Database application: join BCA get a virtual card to display on your mobile screen - if anyone needs to check its veracity they can visit BCA website and find out if you're a paid up member. No cards, no postage, payment can be automated so no major burden on voluntary effort etc.. It's the future, but it could be the present.
Quote from: Cap'n Chris on November 27, 2020, 09:44:31 pmDatabase application: join BCA get a virtual card to display on your mobile screen - if anyone needs to check its veracity they can visit BCA website and find out if you're a paid up member. No cards, no postage, payment can be automated so no major burden on voluntary effort etc.. It's the future, but it could be the present.But I don't have a smartphone
Yes, but farmers generally aren't very keen on that sort of thing...
Is a plastic card (and I dunno about you but mine had spelling mistakes) intrinsically less trustworthy than a piece of paper
Current National Trust cards have a label saying "I am paper not plastic. and can be recycled as paper or added to a compost pile" Not had the opportunity to use it as an ice scraper but it cuts cheese OK.
To help cover clubs from the “ legal” / “compliance” side, could they just change their “rules” to state something along the lines of “To be a valid member of this caving club you must be a member of the BCA”This covers the officers and puts some responsibility on the individuals. I have very little understanding of the complex issues involved but I always like a simple solution where possible.
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