UK Caving
OTHER STUFF => Idle Chat => Topic started by: bograt on May 24, 2013, 10:17:56 pm
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A crucibervalist approach to Wezzit was suggested elsewhere on this site, OK, I'll start it, see how it goe's:
"Perhaps Granny leads confused Owl down here in Derbyshire" (7)
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Knotlow?
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Like it :clap2:
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Knotlow?
Got it one, Dunc., your turn :)
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Damn, means I've got to think now, at work, on phone and Saturday morning, I'll do my best....
Mick Jagger collects none of this in the valley. ( 8 )
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Mossdale
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Spot on Cap'n...
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Paddle eleven, earlier.
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Paddle eleven, earlier.
Rowten.
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Two wheezy, clearly. Yep.
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Hokay, don't do crosswords all that often so apologies if I've got the form wrong...
- A beery cremation of my own.
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Aleburn mine?
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Aleburn mine?
Yar, Ayleburn Mine Cave.
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Wide open sound of bass part.
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Gaping Gill
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All yours dunc.
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Cheers bograt, that got me for a bit as I was thinking musical bass!
Anyway, here we go:
In short, if we look back at the application of computers, we find a confused formicidae.
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IT. Ant. Anagram.
Titan. Reckon.
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Titan it is, think I'll have to try and make them more obscure! :)
Back to you Cap'n..
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450–495 nano-metres. It's Gospel.
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Blue John mine - nice one :)
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Yep.
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Cheers, lets try this;
Beast of burden tops off loads of wheat.
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Reluctant to say it since I'm not sure it right but if it is I'll have to make one up however -
Oxlow
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Welcome BitterEnd, well done, your turn ::)
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Bugger, bear with me, this might take a while...
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Too many anglicised Ivans are misplaced
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Lost Johns'?
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Lost Johns it is, over to you Fulk
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Collar and opt out? (4,3)
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Nick Pot ? :) Like it...
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That took less than 5 minutes, Jason; nice one, over to you.
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OK....
The sound of monks on motorbikes ?
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Vespers?
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These are clearly FAR TOO EASY!
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These are clearly FAR TOO EASY!
Short Drop?
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Over to you Bograt.... :thumbsup:
I must say I had underestimated the cruciverbial acumen of the caving community, so by all means make 'em tougher as Cap'n Chris suggests !
It could be widened to named locations within caves to give more of a challenge?
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I am impressed with the clues. Some very abstruse ones. Never been much good at crosswords but try this one.
Corrupted wet weather Saint goes underground. I am sure Capn Chris will know this one.
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Swildon's Hole
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Silverback attempts to sandwich uranium.
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These are clearly FAR TOO EASY!
Short Drop?
:lol: :lol:
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Silverback attempts to sandwich uranium.
Gautries. Nice
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Its all a question of wavelengths, over to you JasonC. ;D
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OK, trying for something to keep you cryptic geniuses guessing for longer than 30 seconds...
Irishman's passing on gin, slid uncomfortably into tight spot. (5,3,2,3,4)
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Would that be Micks End in Old Ings?
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Yes Bograt it would - with apologies to any Irish readers for a shockingly un-PC clue....
Over the net, back to you...
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Court union, maybe?
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Would I be on the right lines with 'Something Joint' (as, e.g. Timpony Joint' – though not that)?
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Don't think so... I have an inkling of a suspicion of a possible answer ;)
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Would I be on the right lines with 'Something Joint' (as, e.g. Timpony Joint' – though not that)?
No, it is a cave name rather than a location inside one :)
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No, it is a cave name rather than a location inside one
Check out NC Vol. 1, p. 145.
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Link Pot?
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Not Link, not NC.
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Wookey Hole ?
Woo + Keyhole, referring to Union, makers of the same
You'd not get away that in the Times, but the Guardian would probably allow it :)
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No hole intended, they also make the key! :) :)
All yours.
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Fool heard about detective, no longer current.
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Hmm, took me a couple of days to swim the channel for that one! :-\, sneaky :unsure:, anyone else want to guess before I pop it?
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OK, no takers;
Goof re Berger(ac)
Goufre Berger.
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YYURYYUBICURYY4ME :clap2:
Well done - back to you !
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Not fit enough to work that one out at the mo. :blink:
Try this;
Hearing pulse, two score over five.
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YYURYYUBICURYY4ME :clap2:
Well done - back to you !
Got it, 'knew I'd seen it before!, thanks for the compliment :)
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re "Two Ys" etc... I remember it from schooldays, so it's obviously of great antiquity :)
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P-8 ?
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re "Two Ys" etc... I remember it from schooldays, so it's obviously of great antiquity :)
I remember it from school days and I'm a great antiquity.
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P-8 ?
Over to you Fulk ::) ::)
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Swan takes you to Belgium town (9 letters).
(Funny – I thought that P-8 was too obvious, really!)
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Pen-y-Ghent Pot?
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It's all yours, Roger. :clap2:
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They flew from RAF Scampton to make this one.
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Lancaster Hole?
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Good try, but not the one I was thinking of...
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Vulcan?
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Getting colder...
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Lets try "Hole in the Wall?"
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A hole, definitely... and the guys from Scampton put it in a wall - but which wall?
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erm, wasn't it the Mohne?
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Which was a...?
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Dam wall?? never heard of it :)
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Damn, easy when you get a clue..
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Still waiting for a reply from Roger W, don't think I've come across a cave with "Dam" in its name. :-\ :-\
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Ah, but what lay behind the dam? (Come on, Nick, if your fingers are up to it!)
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Resevoir Hole
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:clap2: Over to you, Ros!
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Confused Leo held on for a classic SRT trip.
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Eldon Hole ?
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Eldon Hole ?
yes - over to you Fulk
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Ball hunter? (7,7)
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Knacker Trapper
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Yep, over to you, Ros.
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Tom Riddle ----
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Voldemort?
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Voldemort?
correct - over to you ......
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A clanger misses twisting in this Forest cave. (4,6,4)
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Miss Graces Lane?
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That was obviously far too easy. Over to you.
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Hmmm, OK. New to the game so apologise if "incorrect".
Fast wishing, gets you wet.
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Speedwell
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Correct!
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Big knicker to splint fracture.
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This is a well enough known and fairly popular cave.
Big knicker to splint fracture (4,4,3)
Further clues coming in due course...
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Pant Mawr Pot?
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Further clues now unnecessary - do carry on! :)
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Only two pints (8 letters)
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Meregill ?
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Meregill it is.
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What am I missing - isn't a gill a quarter of a pint and a quart is 2 pints?
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Oh shit, yes, a gill is 1/4 of a pint, not 1/4 of a gallon. :-[ Still, I'm not the only ignoramus here.
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Still, I'm not the only ignoramus here.
P8. Idiot's leap?
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Oh shit, yes, a gill is 1/4 of a pint, not 1/4 of a gallon. :-[ Still, I'm not the only ignoramus here.
:lol: :lol: :lol:, I was waiting to see if it was right before correcting it ;D ;D; ;
"I claim the may fruit"
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Bagshaw(e) ? :)
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Yup, back to you Jason :)
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B
.... that's it, just "B"
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Magnetometer???
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Second Best?
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Box Head
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Ireby.
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Magnetometer???
Magnetometer???????
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Box Head
Box Head it is :clap2:
('head' of Box - geddit ?)
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Magnetometer???
Magnetometer???????
B is the usual letter used to denote for magnetic field...
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This thread is occupying far too much of my invaluable time :)
Try this;
Definite article, Haematite and galena for instance losing all energy, Beware!.
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B is the usual letter used to denote for magnetic field...
I'm flattered by your assumption that I knew that....
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Thor's Cave?
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Thor's Cave?
Brilliant, Scurve! ;D ;D
For those who don't get it;; Definitive article= The.
Haematite & Galena= Ores
Losing energy (e)= -e
= Th +ors
= Thors
Beware (Latin) = Cave
Over to you :bow: :bow:
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This is fun.
The billfold that belongs to the maxillary catastrophe survived by Utnapishtim.
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Ouch!, going to have to sleep on that one!, Night Night!! :)
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Upper Flood Swallet?
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It is Upper Flood Swallet, well done.
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Super duper!
Anyway, try this....
"Activate new hockey line-up"
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Yockenthwaite Pot
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Well it was Yockenthwaite Cave but that's close enough - so over to you Mr Droid!
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Bloody brilliant, got the anagram but not the cave. :) :)
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Aaaargh...just got up....brain in neutral... :-[ ::)
Old crone initially gets tot, opt oddly for the answer.
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Hagg Gill Pot?
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Over to scurve..... ;D
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Awesome.
Foramen doing as He does in the tome of Beeri's son, on National Coming Out Day for us, or Malala Day for US.
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Roaring Hole... :unsure:
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Oh, well done Les W!
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Can someone explain that one please? :shrug:
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Yes, sorry but I'm not very experienced in cryptic crosswords so perhaps my clue was a little unorthodox.
Foramen is Latin for hole
Beeri is a biblical character whose son is Hosea
Verse 11, chapter 10 (11/10) of Hosea says:
They shall walk after the LORD: he shall roar like a lion: when he shall roar, then the children shall come trembling from the west.
11/10 in the UK is 11th of October, which is National Coming Out Day
11/10 in the US is 10th November, which is Malala Day.
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'sfunny, Mr Google says Malala day is 12th July...
but I think that takes the biscuit for cryptic obscurity so far :clap2:
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What the hell's National Coming Out Day? And Malala Day for that matter?
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but I think that takes the biscuit for cryptic obscurity so far :clap2:
Certainly does.
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'sfunny, Mr Google says Malala day is 12th July...
http://educationenvoy.org/press/malala-day (http://educationenvoy.org/press/malala-day)
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I'm not sure if this is a turns thing or not. Sorry if it is, but here's one if it isn't:
"Academics follow south west Illinois to the end of all." (8,4)
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Swildons.
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Indeed.
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Over to you, Les W :)
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As clues go that was pretty obscure. Even Google struggled with Beeri...
I'll see what I can come up with...
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'sfunny, Mr Google says Malala day is 12th July...
http://educationenvoy.org/press/malala-day (http://educationenvoy.org/press/malala-day)
yeah, but would you trust Gordon Broon ? What about this....
http://aworldatschool.org/malaladay (http://aworldatschool.org/malaladay)
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Even Google struggled with Beeri...
You mean you Googled it? And there was I thinking that you knew the bible inside out, Les. :tease:
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google is your friend... (when it's not trying to take over the world...)
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Try this
Heads off when Mufasa's brother combines primaries with Utah spectre residences
apologies if its too obtuse...
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Er, White Scar?
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Very quick Cap'n, your go then...
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Beware Vonnegut download, perhaps.
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Too easy, it's obviously Kurt Woodland Cave.... ;D
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Knope.
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As I'll never get one I thought I'd just quickly drop an easy one in.
All shades a quivering as the top recoils (5,6,3)
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Black Shiver Pot
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Beware Vonnegut download, perhaps.
Slaughter stream ( i didnt cheat )
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Slaughter Stream Cave, full stop. Correct.
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Feathered squatters given the chop.
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Cuckoo Cleeves?
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:clap2: aww tooo easy. Your turn.
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Lets see how long this one will last then......
"Conservatives lose investors after small tavern hire mix-up"
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Travertine Cave ??
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ha! In the time it took me to think one up, another had been posted and solved! Well done Elaine, Black Shiver it was.
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Not Travertine.
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Lets see how long this one will last then......
"Conservatives lose investors after small tavern hire mix-up"
Little Neath River Cave?
(I love the "Conservatives lose investors"! ;D)
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Bang on Bograt - over to you...
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Contents of Cheddar, furry cheese, leads spineless old Zimbabwan quadruped about Spanish railway.
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Only thing I can come up with is Churchill Cave - but not entirely sure why!!
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Not Churchill, more than 24 hours on this thread is a long time!, maybe I've hit the suitable level with this one :)
OK, clue; COPD, or COD before that.
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I googled furry cheese cos I am a cheat. And I can't think of any caves that are named after that!!
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Mouldridge Mine :shrug:
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;D ;D No, not correct, maybe think about the old name of Zimbabwe and the spineless quadruped??
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Darfur Ridge Cave?
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You got it Andy ;D
Explanation;
Contents of Ched dar, fur ry cheese,
Old Zimbabwan quadruped= Rhodesian Ridgeback
Spineless = minus back =ridge
about = c
Spanish railway = AVE (Spains high speed train)
Well done, over to you :thumbsup:
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Good lord, that's The Independent Cryptic Crossword standard at least (I remember one prize crossword which was so difficult that they only had 5 entrants instead of the usual 1000 or so).
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This should be a bit easier :) : two ways to get to the same Eureka moment with this one.....
Ale, Nosh, Claret - a more favourable combination than the nutty co-op version.
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Lancaster Hole?
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....that's the first part cracked - carrying on with part two or claiming the glory anyway?
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nutty co-op = County Pot
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...that both so over to you rsch - unless TheBitterEnd gets in there first! :) :) :)
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From "B" to meta-cryptic clues, I'm beginning to wonder if this thread needs some guidelines.
Anyway, I'm having a turn since I inadvertently started the whole thing
Anti nippikin, apple family exits on entry
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Pippikin
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Not Pippikin
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By the way, I got as far as 'Darfur' above . . . but when I Googled it , it came up with Darfar [Ridge Cave].
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Yes, that bit threw me too... (or that's my excuse, I was also thrown by Mugbe and RENFE!)
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Anti nippikin, apple family exits on entry
Valley Entrance?
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Not Valley Entrance
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Aah, the dependance upon Google ;D, its Darfur in the book!! :smartass:
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I think that's actually your dependancy on a book, as I'm sure it's Darfar in reality...
Maybe someone on here from the Darfar Potholing Club could confirm....!?! :smartass:
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Cox's cave?
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Never heard of Cox's cave so its not that
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I think that's actually your dependancy on a book, as I'm sure it's Darfar in reality...
Maybe someone on here from the Darfar Potholing Club could confirm....!?! :smartass:
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5461/9005302831_724054996b_c.jpg)
COD, 1979, before Google, before the club :)
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I did, in fact, check my copy of COD, which is dated 1984; it contains references to DarfAr Crag Cave, DarfAr Pot and DarfAr Ridge Cave!
(And like Rob, I was thinking that the Spanish Railway System is RENFE.)
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And the OS Map shows the name "Dafar Bridge" so the mystery deepens....
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3667/9006627360_c7b00180a5.jpg)
Anyway, DarfAr can't be right 'cos it doesn't appear in the words "Cheddar furry" :)
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And is (or was) Mugbe (sic) a quadruped?? ;D ;D
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If I could just interrupt your little tiff...
Given that there have been a few wrong answers let me rephrase that:
Anti Nippikin on entry Apple family exit?
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If I could just interrupt your little tiff...
Yes sir!, Sorry sir!, straying from the point sir!, :chair:
The only thing that springs to mind at the mo. is Plantation, though I can't think why? :shrug:
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Not Plantation.
6 letters, well known dales cave.
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anti = con, apple family = rosaceae, so
Conrosaceae Pot? ;)
Oh drat, it's got more than 6 letters.
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County Pot (only 6 letter cave I can think off and it has con in there too!)
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Nope.
It's the "obverse" of "Nippikin on entry Apple familiy exit" and you need to think much more widely about the Apple family, it's a rather modern aspect of the clue.
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Old Ing?
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Kingpin?
Edit; whoops, scrap that, can't count :-[
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Something to do with iMacs / iPads etc? (But I can't think what.) (A bit like Padirac, for example – but not that, of course.)
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Apple family = I kin
So apple family exit would mean taking I kin out of nippikin, leaving nipp
Now, I'm stuck ... :-\
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On entry = Niponp, never heard of it! :shrug:
Obverse = Ponpin, ??
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:) so close
well done steviet_scg for getting ikin
so nippikin with ikin replaced with on gives?
which is the land of?
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Rising Sun, Obverse= SUNSET???
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There's cryptic, and there's CRYPTIC.... :lol:
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:clap2: :clap2: :clap2: Sunset it is, knew you'd get there in the end
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Whew!, after that slog, something a little more gentle;
Graduates terminate around Holyhead, then take highway to Geordieland.
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Bash Mine Mash mine?
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Maskhill mine.
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There, wasn't that relaxing :sleeping:
Over to you Droid :thumbsup:
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Got to go to work now. have another go, Bograt. :thumbsup:
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I've got one :alien:
Can't see what Holyhead had to do with the previous one though?
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MAs kill - around 'H' which is the 'head' or first letter of 'holy'... giving Maskhill.
You need an MA at least to be able to do some of these!
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OK, another quickie;
Hartington on the passing of pater.
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Dove Holes?
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Not Dove Holes
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Devon something?
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How about Dale Head?
Hartington - Bitter from Whim Brewery = ALE
On passing - ie death, abbreviated = D
Pater, of family = HEAD
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Nice try Andys, but no.
Crickleymal is sooooo close!
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Devon Consoles?
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Not quite, COPD.
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Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease?
Devonshire or Devon Great Consols
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Devonshire Mine?
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I think I'll give that one to Crickleymal since he did most of the work ;D
It is Devonshire, the title inherited by Peregrine, Lord Hartington when his father died.
Over to you Crickley :thumbsup:
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They say urge Morse's sidekick to the climber.
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Eglwys Faen?
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Eglwys Faen?
I obviously make these too easy for you. Carry on.
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Am I being thick?, where does faen = climber come from? :shrug:
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Am I being thick?, where does faen = climber come from? :shrug:
Faen pronounced vain - and we all know that climbers are described thus! :)
Anyway, try this one.....
Support pair with crooked neck, then Dundee loses her soul.
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Am I being thick?, where does faen = climber come from? :shrug:
Faen pronounced vine and a vine is a climbing plant.
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Faen pronounced vine and a vine is a climbing plant.
Aah, didn't know thats how it was pronounced. :-[
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Support pair with crooked neck, then Dundee loses her soul.
No takers? Clue then - 7,4 NC1
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If anything that's even more cryptic than the clue!
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Nay lad! Just means the answer is two words, of 7 and 4 letters respecively, and found in Northern Caves Vol 1! :)
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Been toying with Bracken Cave but can only make half of it fit :-\
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Bracken Cave it is
Supports pair = BRA
with
crooked NECK = CKEN
(Bonnie) Dundee, a.k.a James Graham, a.k.a. CLAVERHOUSE,
losing HER SOUL,
= CAVE
- over to you Bograt!
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Hmm, Claverhouse totally eluded me.
" Oriental vein punctures lose the way in France."
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Hmm, Claverhouse totally eluded me.
" Oriental vein punctures lose the way in France."
Thinking about this, I think it should be fun for all, so I'll give an easier clue to the rest of you and ask the experts to explain the original to you; easier clue;
"Punctures in the ewer".
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Jug holes
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well, working back from Cavermark's answer, I assume Oriental = E, vein = JUGULAR, less LA RUE (=way in France) = JUG, and of course puctures=HOLES
though, to be pedantic, I think subtraction clues should take out letters in the specified order unless an anagram is indicated. Still... rules, schmules
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Well done both of you, I must admit Jason I did consider putting in an anagram indicator but I don't think there are that many ximeans on this thread ::)
Over to you cavermark :thumbsup:
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Sounds like the reverse of cooking and slicing (7.4)
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Roaring Hole :lol:
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Roaring Hole :lol:
Correct :clap2:
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ok, another short one.....
M60 ?
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Manchester bypass?
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Manchester bypass?
Indeed :thumbsup: - though highway specialists might disagree....
over to you!
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Are passage names allowed as well as cave names, then?
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Summon old soldier with urge for rebuilding
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Are passage names allowed as well as cave names, then?
There are no rules, in Cryptic Caves, as in life ;)
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Come on, someone make a guess. It's a lot easier than a lot of the horrors we've had.
Summon old soldier with urge for rebuilding
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Come on, someone make a guess. It's a lot easier than a lot of the horrors we've had.
Summon old soldier with urge for rebuilding
how many letters?
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forget that... dislexic!
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Are passage names allowed as well as cave names, then?
There are no rules, in Cryptic Caves, as in life ;)
The first rule of cryptic caves is fight club
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call vet grue cave? :shrug:
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Valley Entrance?? :doubt:
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Dunc has it. Anagram of call veteran yen
Cavermark was half way. Hadn't thought about the anagram marker ambiguity. I could have given word length, but (6,8) would have given it away straight away!
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What a mash up! Jules dopped an ‘E’ on his journey to the centre of the Earth. We hear his Urine Test for Ketamine showed traces of element 98....
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What a mash up! Jules dopped an ‘E’ on his journey to the centre of the Earth. We hear his Urine Test for Ketamine showed traces of element 98....
Shouldn't you have put that in the "trip reports" section, Dan?
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peak Cavern? :lol:
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Isn't it Dunc's turn?
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Hmmmm . . . I do the Observer crossword most weeks, and most weeks I manage to finish it; but the clues there are far less convoluted than those here!
I was under the impression that convention demands that if you set an anagram, then you give the actual words (i.e letters) contained in the answer, not those contained in the answer to the first part of the clue.
Still, I guess it's all innocent fun. :)
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Hmmmm . . . I do the Observer crossword most weeks, and most weeks I manage to finish it; but the clues there are far less convoluted than those here!
I was under the impression that convention demands that if you set an anagram, then you give the actual words (i.e letters) contained in the answer, not those contained in the answer to the first part of the clue.
Still, I guess it's all innocent fun. :)
Convention possibly, but I don't think there are "rules" for cryptic crosswords?
Re: next poster - should there a be a time limit before people can jump in? Or like with the "Wezzits" could people say "open floor" if they aren't going to put a clue up?
Dunc can go next perhaps...
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I'll let dans run this time..
At work right now so haven't got time to think up some obscure clues!
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Fulk - maybe clues need to be more convoluted here because we already know the theme of the answer?
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True, but if it's so convoluted that extra clues need to be provided does it not defeat the object a little? So far it's been a mixture of easier and harder clues, variety is always good..
Typically I thought of something easy not long after my last post, will wait for a free go some other time.
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Speedwell Cavern
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Its likely something that ends in CF so its going to be something in wales?
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Its likely something that ends in CF so its going to be something in wales?
Not necessarily, it could be the abbreviation for the state after which element 98 is named (indicated by "traces"), in which case I suspect cavermark has it, although if this is the case element 20 might have been less misleading. (Of course I may be wrong! :-[)
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I read it as Jules less E is vern(e) so might be something caVERN. Ketamine might be SPEED (if Fat Freddy and co. have taught me anything). Element 98 is Californium usually (in crosswords) abbreviated to CAL. Not quite sure how the urine test fits in as we have WEL left over
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Jules dropped an E - VERN
Urine test - PEE
K etamine
CA lifornium
Disturbing that I know how Dan's mind works!
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Peek Cavern? Peak surely
Dan, what's the answer?
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Convention possibly, but I don't think there are "rules" for cryptic crosswords?
Didn't Ximenes produce some rules? There's been quite a bit of controversy about Araucaria because he apparently does not obey the rules. To my mind, Araucaria can do no wrong (...chaste Lord Archer vegetating) so I've never paid attention to the arguments.
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Convention possibly, but I don't think there are "rules" for cryptic crosswords?
Didn't Ximenes produce some rules? There's been quite a bit of controversy about Araucaria because he apparently does not obey the rules. To my mind, Araucaria can do no wrong (...chaste Lord Archer vegetating) so I've never paid attention to the arguments.
Nice to meet another Araucaria fan :thumbsup:
He does get some flak for his libertarian approach, but 'indirect anagrams' are pretty much frowned on even by him, as Fulk remarks.
Still, I'm guessing there aren't many professional crossword setters on this forum, so let do as thou wilt be the whole of the law....
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Mark has it,
Peak Cavern,
What a mash up! - mix up what follows
Jules dopped an ‘E’ on his journey to the centre of the Earth - vern (-e)
We hear his Urine Test for - sounds like pee = pea
Ketamine - k
showed traces of element 98.... - Ca (Part of Californium - calcium would have been too obvious)
So Pea k Ca Vern - Peak Cavern it is indeed...
D.
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We hear Widdecombe won't put her hand in her pocket..
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Titan?
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Titan?
Correct Andys
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Super duper! Try this one then....
Reversing the drills and give call for replanning.
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Sleets Gill Cave
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Spot on Bograt - over to you...
Solution:
Reversing = putting the letters in reverse order
the drills = steels = (when reversed) SLEETS
and
give call (source of letters)
for replanning (anagram indicator) = GILL CAVE.
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Thanks Andy;
Vacated for days, stupid left a mess.
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It looks so easy when you see an explained answer, then I see the next clue and again am totally stumped.
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Yordas Cave?
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Back to you Andy,
" Vacated for days" = letters to play with
"Stupid left" = "Daft" taken away
= "vacaedorys"
"A mess" = anagram.
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Try this one then:
Train genotype, down South from Manchester.
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Dan Yr Ogof?
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Not Danny.
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Shuttleworth Pot? :doubt:
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Not Shuttleworth.
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Would "Train" be anything to do with "PE"?
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Would "Train" be anything to do with "PE"?
Nope - but you are on the right lines (no pun intended!)!
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I figured that 'train' meant train the letters of genotype – i.e. DNA . . . hence Dan (though I couldn't account for Yr Ogof!)
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I figured that 'train' meant train the letters of genotype – i.e. DNA . . . hence Dan (though I couldn't account for Yr Ogof!)
You are heading in the right direction!
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Try this one then:
Train genotype, down South from Manchester.
Just bumping so we don't have keep flipping pages :)
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Anagram of "genotype down" anyone?.
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New Goyden Pot
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:clap2: :clap2: :clap2:
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OK folks try this:
Fishy thoughts of a sad woman
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Assume it was New Goyden Andys?
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Well done Grahams and Bograt between you! :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:
Solution:
Train = anagram indicator
"genotype down" = letters thereof (I'm a traditionalist so no double clues here!) = NEW GOYDEN POT
South from Manchester = a second clue, because Manchester in this case is of course Manchester Hole
Over to Grahams then for putting the final touches.....
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Fishy thoughts of a sad woman
Tatham wife?
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You're in the right region Alex. Hint: not an anagram.
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Batty Wife :-\
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Marilyn?
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Neither of those two. The woman in question has class.
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Lady Blues Underwater Fantasy?
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Lady Algetha Cave?
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:clap2: That's the one Andys.
BTW sorry if I jumped in a bit too fast after New Goyden - didn't read the previous answers.
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Lady Blues Underwater Fantasy?
Where's that? :shrug:
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In the Rawthey Valley, just north of Sedbergh. The entrance is underwater in a pool in the R. Rawthey.
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Super - try this one then: but be aware that I'm about to set off out and will be away all this coming weekend. So if someone "obviously" gets it then I'll let others judge if they should carry on........
Re-engineers a gap in stopes after flow of water.
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Stream Passage Pot ?
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I reckon Fulk is right with that one;
" A gap, stopes" = "Passage pot" (anagram)
"Flow of water" = "Stream"
What do others think?, shall we give it to him? :-\
BTW I had never heard of the Lady Blue thing but its a lovely clue to a lovely cave name! ;D ;D :thumbsup:
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Yes, give it to Fulk.
Lady Blue's isn't as well known as it should be. The cave has massive potential but is guarded by a long sump. The water is derived from the Clouds Gill and possibly Scandal Beck 3 miles to the NE and over 800 feet above. Rawthey Cave is on the opposite side of the river and it too has much potential.
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Yes, give it to Fulk.
Lady Blue's isn't as well known as it should be. The cave has massive potential but is guarded by a long sump. The water is derived from the Clouds Gill and possibly Scandal Beck 3 miles to the NE and over 800 feet above. Rawthey Cave is on the opposite side of the river and it too has much potential.
Interesting stuff - thanks
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OK, lets be democratic about this, any objections to letting Fulk have it? I'll give it a while until I have had my dinner :) :)
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Hi cavermark,
Check out the KCC 50th anniversary publication for the derivation on the cave's name. :)
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Had my dinner now, looks like its passed "nem con" ( nobody against), go for it Fulk!! :) :)
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Ecclesiastical valley comes before judge's hammer.
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Bishopdale Gavel Pots?
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6 min 17 sec . . . well done Dunc! :clap2:
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I figured there couldn't be many places with gavel in the name, took a few minutes head scratching to get the right valley though!
Here we go:
It sounds like this honey producer wants a carbon free form of transport, afterwards it might opt to be confused.
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Bar Pot?
B(ee) Car without C, opt (anag)
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Spot on Kay, over to you...
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Must say that was one of the highest clue length:answer length ratios that I've seen!
hang on a few minutes while I work something out.
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Ok, here you go:
Second rate flower found on topless fell
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Ellerbeck Hole?
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Ellerbeck Hole?
No. As a matter of interest, how did you get there?
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It was a long shot. ell - topless fell, beck - small (second rate) river as in flowing water.
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The logic was good; it was the selection of answers that was wrong.
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Little Hull Pot?
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Not Little Hull Pot.
8 letters (and I suppose you should add after it one of the usual words to describe a subterranean feature)
It doesn't involve an anagram.
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Sell Gill ?.... without much conviction ...
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Meregill maybe?
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Beckside Pot?
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unfortunately speedwell (cavern) has 9 letters
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None right yet.
Meregill and Sellgill are nearest so far.
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Browgill then?
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Yep.
Second rate: B
Flower = river = R
Topless Howgill Fells
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Didn't get that one even with the answer and the explanation. :-[
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Didn't get that one even with the answer and the explanation. :-[
Second rate flower found on topless fell
Second rate + B (eg B team not A team)
Flower is a nasty device in cryptic crosswords which I don't like, but since everyone else's clues are so difficult, I felt justified in using it - if you pronounce it not as "flower" but as "flow - er", ie a thing that flows, you get river, and river is abbreviated to R.
Howgill Fells - take the "top" off, ie remove the first letter, and you get owgill: B R owgill.
You would have had Bruntscar, but I couldn't think of a concise clue for "untscar".
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Wondered where the "owgill" came from, never heard of Howgill Fells! :-[
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You and me bograt!
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The Howgill Fells are the group of hills between the Dales and the Lakes - the ones just to the east of the M6 when you drive north from the Kendal area....
Anyway, have a try at this one.....
Could be flying, could be a diode.
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but I couldn't think of a concise clue for "untscar".
I think I could!! :)
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I'd quibble with the use of fell in the clue. It's not normally done to have part of the answer given in the clue in plain view IYSWIM. However as I've never heard of the cave or the fell it's a moot point as far as I'm concerned.
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Jib Tunnel?
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Spot on Grahams - over to you!
Solution: a jib is a sail on a ship, one type of which is called a flying jib; and diodes come in various types, one of which is a tunnel diode.
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aah, thanks Kay.
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I'd quibble with the use of fell in the clue. It's not normally done to have part of the answer given in the clue in plain view IYSWIM. However as I've never heard of the cave or the fell it's a moot point as far as I'm concerned.
Where in the answer ("Browgill") is the word "Fell"? :shrug:
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I'd quibble with the use of fell in the clue. It's not normally done to have part of the answer given in the clue in plain view IYSWIM. However as I've never heard of the cave or the fell it's a moot point as far as I'm concerned.
Where in the answer ("Browgill") is the word "Fell"? :shrug:
Howgill Fells. Ok the word fell isn't in the answer I misread that somehow. :kiss2:
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but I couldn't think of a concise clue for "untscar".
I think I could!! :)
Yes, but I'm a lady!
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I'd quibble with the use of fell in the clue. It's not normally done to have part of the answer given in the clue in plain view IYSWIM. However as I've never heard of the cave or the fell it's a moot point as far as I'm concerned.
But "fell" isn't part of the answer, it's a descriptor of the Howgills, so it's legit.
Oops, sorry, just seen your other post.
For those who haven't heard of it, Browgill is one of the standard "novice" caves in the Dales - it's where you get to if you drop down Calf Holes and slither through Hainsworth passage. But I find it more exciting to enter through Browgill and then suddenly come upon open sky and a cascading waterfall. My first trip was in mid winter, with the waterfall a mass of icicles, absolutely beautiful.
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My first trip was in mid winter, with the waterfall a mass of icicles, absolutely beautiful.
Straying off-topic, as usual, but the above comment reminded me of a trip there when Calf Holes was (were?) completely covered in snow, so we went through from Browgill and sure enough, at the foot of the entrance pitch we could just discern our surroundings by the ghostly light filtering down. I never did find out if anyone had tried (unwittingly) to walk across the top!
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This should be easy -
Long John's injury was so severe that he needed one of these, not one of these.
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Pegleg pot?
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I like it (I'm sure Bitterend has got it right!).
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That's it TheBitterEnd. Over to you.
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Startling sound slays fish in timeless hotel?
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Growling Hole?
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Not Growling
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Using Andys' logic - Rumbling Hole?
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Not Rumbling
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Bangkish hole? (Made that up, but you never know!)
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Roaring then?
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Bangkish hole? (Made that up, but you never know!)
Oh yes you do!
Not Roaring either.
:smartass: May be I ought to ask you to show your working since we seem to be just running through a list of audible caves :smartass:
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Well, I've just run through all the "holes" (anag hotel -t=time) in cavemaps without hitting inspiration. Brief wonder about "echo" but that's a startled noise "oh 'eck" rather than a startling one, and I couldn't find the fish. Pan holes would kill the fish (whatever the state they enter the frying pan, not many get out alive). Googling on: hole cave -wookey didn't get me far either, so that's me done.
Ling for the fish does seem very tempting but is probably a red herring.
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Jingling Hole?
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hoehlenforscher has it.
Startling indicates start and as a side effect has Ling
sound slays - homophone indicator for sleigh and has "sound"
sleigh sound = jingle
start of jingle + fish = Jingling
Hotel less T gives Hole
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Blood yell, that's far too convoluted! And there's no indication that 'hotel minus t' is an anagram. :spank:
And why does 'startling' indicate start; I figured the guys going for roaring or rumbling were on the right tracks with a startling sound.
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It's really tough knowing where to pitch it, there seem to be some fairly high caliber crossword solvers on here and it seems that lots of other people got Hole from timeless hotel.
I have to say that I thought "slay" near "sound" was enough to make it fairly obvious...
Each to his own.
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Yes . . . BUT you wanna have your cake and eat it!! See, 'slays fish' – so, knock 'ling' out of starling and you get start . . . but the clue goes on to re-use 'sound slays' as sleighs, which is jingle . . . I don't think that kosher crosswords double up on clues like that . . . and, as I said, there's no indication that 'hoel' was an anagram (maybe it's the Welsh pronunciation 'hoe-el' for hole :))
:tease: :tease:
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Yes . . . BUT you wanna have your cake and eat it!! See, 'slays fish' – so, knock 'ling' out of starling and you get start . . . but the clue goes on to re-use 'sound slays' as sleighs, which is jingle . . . I don't think that kosher crosswords double up on clues like that . . . and, as I said, there's no indication that 'hoel' was an anagram (maybe it's the Welsh pronunciation 'hoe-el' for hole :))
:tease: :tease:
It can't have been too bad a clue as hoehlenforscher managed to crack it, clever lad. As far as I know, it's usual to use 'sounds like' for homophones in crosswords but I'm no expert. Anyway, it probably drove a bit of traffic to CaveMaps.
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I tend to agree with Fulk about the convolution, maybe hoehlenforscher can enlighten us as to how he reached his answer?
Anyway, hoehlenforscher, its your turn :), welcome to the maelstrom :lol:
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I suspect that hoehlenforscher managed to crack it by inspired guess-work rather than logical deduction. ;)
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Suspicion is not a nice thing ::) ::)
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I suspect that hoehlenforscher managed to crack it by inspired guess-work rather than logical deduction. ;)
How dare you insinuate such a thing :furious: :-[ :lol:
Anyway, I was on the right track like several others and once some of the obvious ones had been taken out of the running it became pretty obvious and was just a matter of making the clues fit the cave! Anyway, I guess I get to have a go now which is a worry as I have no idea of the convention and usually struggle on the cryptic puzzles. So bear with me. It will probably be very simple
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So, a real easy one.
Lisa's family kept a stash
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Simpson Pot
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DOH. As i said, it would be an easy one. Over to you TBE
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Oh so tempting to wind up Fulk some more :alien:
fulks famous forerunner foregoes fourth for fourteenth forming feathered fisher
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Hmm, would there be a "d" replacing an "n" in there or vice versa?
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Heron pot
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Heron it is, well done.
That wasn't so bad was it? Hope I escaped being sent to the Gulags for re-education
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I understand the feathered fisher, what is the rest of it all about?
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At risk of getting told off again...
Fulk was king of Jerusalem, as was Herod; less D plus N
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:bow: :bow: :bow:
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Aah, I didn't know that, :) :)
( You damn polymath!!)
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probably too obvious but...
vicious fish at the start of daybreak, the start of a disaster before claiming ownership, muddled part (s) of Yorkshire with a malfunction.
Herod (d=4, n=14)
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Pikedaw calamine caverns?
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Pikedaw Calamine Cavern (posted at the same time as above; honest!)
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looks like bograt to me
(and he put the 's' in)
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;D ;D Ta very much :)
"Arranged meeting in hell, choose not to go"
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Magnetometer Pot?
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Disappointment Pot?
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:bow: :bow: :bow:
Thank you Roger
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Over to you Andys;
Hell = Dis
Arragement to meet = Appointment
Choose not to go = Opt out = Pot (anag.)
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Sorry - but why does hell = dis?
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Super duper. Try this one then....
"Taps onto a rent review for old yardage behind facade of depot."
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Flood Entrance Pot?
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Not Flood Entrance
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Sorry - but why does hell = dis?
from Wikipedia...
"Dis (Divine Comedy), the fictional city in The Divine Comedy that contains the lower circles of hell and alternate name for Lucifer"
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I seem to recall a place called "Paternoster Pot" or am I dreaming it? :-\ :-\
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... not one I've heard of. And not the answer either....
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Meregill Pot ?
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...not Meregill.
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Bath Swallet - Rods Pot
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....not Bath Swallet - Rods Pot, or anywhere else in Mendip come to that!
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Floyds Entrance?
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Patterns Pot? Transept Pot?
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Not Floyds, Patterns or Transept - can't even find these last two in any of my books and neither can my mate Mr G. O'Ogle: have you made them up? :-\ :-\ :-\
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Of course I have, but then I've not heard of 95% of the other caves in this thread. Pattern's Pot at least sounds plausible.
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I seem to recall a place called "Paternoster Pot" or am I dreaming it? :-\ :-\
Aah, the benefits (or otherwise) of Beer & Brandy, I did used to go caving, but now I just dream about the past I used to enjoy. It was Pitlamp that persuaded me to bring back my experience!! >:( ::) ::) ::)
Whether its an advantage to Derbyshire Caving or not, its up to you to decide, but I did start this thread and it seems to be popular ;D ;D
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Could it be 'something Fathom Pot/Cave'?
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Not fathom - but you're on the right lines so if you cut your cloth correctly.....
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Taps "knock", Old Yardage = "Ell"
Rent review has something to do with an "F" ?
Knock fell cavern? (long shot I know)
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I thought of KFC, but couldn't make it work...
Could 'old yardage behind facade of depot' be DELL ? Are there any something Dell caves ?
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Not Knock Fell - though you're in the correct series of books, albeit the wrong volume.
And to help further, its what I think is called a "letter series clue" where the phrases of the clue, in order, spell out the answer, also in order.
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Super duper. Try this one then....
"Taps onto a rent review for old yardage behind facade of depot."
just bumping onto this page, it drives me mad having to flip pages to see the original clue! :wall:
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Hhhmmm. Methinks I may need to give an additional clue!
Its in NC3 and the first word is 10 letters long....... well that should narrow it down a bit!
But anyone guessing now really ought to show some of their workings!
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My NC Volume 3 is Ingleborough (1975), am I at a disadvantage??
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My NC Volume 3 is Ingleborough (1975), am I at a disadvantage??
If you are then so am I - CaveMaps v3 contains Knock Fell Caverns, not the vol. according to Andys.
I bet the answer is something like Frustration Pot.
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Its in NC3 and the first word is 10 letters long....... well that should narrow it down a bit!
But anyone guessing now really ought to show some of their workings!
Well, if NC3 is Three Counties, and if Cave Maps is to be relied on (and it surely is), then I can only find three caves whose first name has 10 letters: Apprentice, Bruntskill and Broadfield, none of which appear to bear any relation to the clue.
And trying to apply the "letter series" hint comes up with toarrfoybfod or possibly soatwrdedeft :-\
... might be onto something if it was in Wales :D
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Hackergill Pot?
Hack(ing) is tapping in to something. A gill is an old measurement, not sure how it relates to yards. Behind facade of depot, so I guess remove front of (de) to get pot.. :shrug:
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Sh*t sh*t sh*t - sincerest apologies guys. Just realised that I wrote NC3 from the "old" series when it should be NC2 in the "modern" series :chair: :chair: :chair: :chair:
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C H + anter + ell + (de)pot
Chanterell Pot?
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Bingo!! - you can have that one Bograt - even though you're one letter out with the spelling 'cos it should be.... CH - anter - ell - (d)e pot :clap2: :clap2:
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Aah, 11 letters then :lol:
Redhead loses her ruler where the fish lurks.
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Gingling?
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Hmm, 2 minutes, couldn't you type any faster? ;D ;D
Over to you Bitterend
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Apologies for the tardy response, I just caught that before I went out. Anyway:
Oxford boy confused by loss of car now owned be me.
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Blue John Mine?
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box mine?
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Bingo!! - you can have that one Bograt - even though you're one letter out with the spelling 'cos it should be.... CH - anter - ell - (d)e pot :clap2: :clap2:
I'm probably being really thick but how do you get CH?
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box mine?
over to you grahams
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I think that your clue was A over T – ox-b rather than b-ox :ras:
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Bingo!! - you can have that one Bograt - even though you're one letter out with the spelling 'cos it should be.... CH - anter - ell - (d)e pot :clap2: :clap2:
I'm probably being really thick but how do you get CH?
Cold and Hot water taps :)
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I think that your clue was A over T – ox-b rather than b-ox :ras:
... confused ...
8)
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Makes gin with a bay.
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Juniper Gulf ?
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I think that your clue was A over T – ox-b rather than b-ox
Quote from: TheBitterEnd on Today at 04:07:05 pm
... confused ...
Yeah, well, maybe 'Oxford boy confused by loss of car' should've been 'Oxford boy confused after loss of car'
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Juniper Gulf ?
That's it JasonC. Over to you.
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Thanks, good clue, by the way!
Try this:
Bush greeting Superman with pea soup in child's bed
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Yo! Kent,
With pea (soup) = hwaite p
Childs bed = c - - ot
Yo-c-kent-hwaite P-ot :smartass:
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What happened to the bush?
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What happened to the bush?
Bush greeting = Yo
As in George Bush...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo,_Blair (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo,_Blair)
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Congratulations Bograt - I hoped that would keep everyone scratching their head a bit longer ! :thumbsup:
Fulk, 'Yo' was 'Bush greeting' in honour of Dubya's greeting to Tony picked up by a hot mike at a the start of a press conference: "Yo, Blair" *
Anyway, back to you once again, Bograt
* <edit> what Barrabus said
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Drive opens to river, raise masculine issues.
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Nidd Head Rising?
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Not Nidd
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This is going to sound like I'm firing off half guessed answers! I am!
How about Chapman's Rising?
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??? Naah.
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I don't quite know why but Knacker Trapper Hole?
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:, - -Kno, knot KT.
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Douse poord pot?
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Douse poord pot?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Nope :lol:, I don't think I'll give you a clue yet, your guesses are far too amusing! :lol: :lol: :beer2:
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Masculine issue = Your D*cks Not Level"
Remove various letters as suggested by rest of clue, gives
Yourds Level
Is that it? ::) ::)
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No r and an e in Youdes, incorrect I'm afraid :confused:
Correct region though.
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Ah so it's darn sarf - Percy's Resurgence Cave?
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:lol: :lol: :lol:, WTF is Percy's ???, never heard of it, and how did you get there? :-\ keep the innuendoes coming guys, You will be as surprised as I was when it went this far !! :) :) :)
Still, it entertains the "watchers". :thumbsup:
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:lol: :lol: :lol:, WTF is Percy's ???, never heard of it, and how did you get there? :-\ keep the innuendoes coming guys, You will be as surprised as I was when it went this far !! :) :) :)
Still, it entertains the "watchers". :thumbsup:
Percy's Resurgence Cave is a well known cave of great potential (not) in Miller's Dale. I take it you haven't seen the classic (of it's type) late 60's film Percy starring Hywel Bennett.
You might have detected a bit of desperation regarding this one. Any more clues?
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This is a long shot...
is it Longshot Cave?
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This is a long shot...
is it Longshot Cave?
Why would it be?
OK, a clue;
COPD, letters = 2, 8, some dispute whether its a mine, cave or pot so that is not included in the clue.
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Dr Jackson's?
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COPD, letters = 2, 8
I'm still baffled with the 'clue'; where does COPD come from?
Is it Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease [Cave]?
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COPD, letters = 2, 8
I'm still baffled with the 'clue'; where does COPD come from?
Is it Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease [Cave]?
I'm mystified by 'opens to river' in the clue.
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COPD, letters = 2, 8
I'm still baffled with the 'clue'; where does COPD come from?
Is it Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease [Cave]?
COPD = Caves Of the Peak District so thats the book you'll find it it. :)
And I suspect the rest of it goes like....
"Drives open" means take the first letter of Drives, ie a "D", onto means in front of, and "river " becomes its normal abbreviation which is an "R" - hence "DR" at the start of the answer.
For the rest, "raise" = "JACK" (as in to 'raise up' or 'jack up' something) and "masculine issue" becomes "SONS".
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Well done andys, the letter count was a bit of a give away but your explanation cannot be faulted ;D
Over to you.
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Here we go then, have a crack at this.....
"Kremlin evicts Lib Dem leaders after forty seconds without using Rolex."
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Keld Head?
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....nope!
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Rolex camera "B"stop = 40seconds
Without = Lack
Leaders = K E L D
??
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Well done bograt. I guessed it must be Black Keld but could not get the Black bit no matter how I tried. I was looking at XL (Roman 40) and removing it from Rolex, perhaps with an S from seconds. But didn't make sense. Your explanation is spot on. Must be correct.
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Wrong answer but right result! Black Keld it is but not by the means quoted.
My Rolex was a watch not a camera - anyone wanna guess how? Or should I kiss and tell?
Or should we just let Bograt get on with it?
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Go on, tell us.
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Oh go on then!
If you'd Googled forty second, by writing it thus "42nd" (and especially if you'd added "watch" from the Rolex clue) you'd have quickly encountered the 42nd Regiment of Foot, the Royal Highlanders, a.k.a the Black Watch. And if you'd have removed the Rolex from that you'd have ended up with Black. And the rest is history, or as I prefer to call it, Bograts go!
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Yeh, I wasn't happy with the "b" stop=40secs.
OK, see how long this one lasts;
Music party so out of it, dance half cut.
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Diccan (pot)?
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Didn't think it would last long ;D
Would you care to explain it to the others before your go andys?
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'Twas, I believe
Music party = DISCO
so out of it, = DI-C-
dance = CAN CAN
half cut = CAN ---
Thus DICCAN
Try this one then - and it better not last long 'cos I'm away all weekend!
"Tigers ten cast spell on grass"
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If you'd Googled forty second, by writing it thus "42nd" (and especially if you'd added "watch" from the Rolex clue) you'd have quickly encountered the 42nd Regiment of Foot, the Royal Highlanders, a.k.a the Black Watch. And if you'd have removed the Rolex from that you'd have ended up with Black. And the rest is history, or as I prefer to call it, Bograts go!
No, No, it's far too convoluted. That ain't a kosher crossword clue!!!!!!!
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Casterton Pot?
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....not Casterton.
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Try this one then - and it better not last long 'cos I'm away all weekend!
"Tigers ten cast spell on grass"
I'm about to set off, so if someone guesses right - and they'll know because Tobias :) will tell them - then just carry on regardless.......
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Flood Entrance?
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Gritstone Pot?
But I don't know where the "o" comes from!
Maj.
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Having discussed it with Maj, we think I was right:
Tigers ten: (toby) Flood
Casts spell: En Trance
On Grass: Pot
So here goes - first one, be gentle...
Jimmy's citrus plantation drink without a painful exclamation to an alien
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You may well be but I still don't understand why Tigers ten = Flood. The only Toby I know is the Frosties one.
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You may well be but I still don't understand why Tigers ten = Flood. The only Toby I know is the Frosties one.
Me too.
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You may well be but I still don't understand why Tigers ten = Flood. The only Toby I know is the Frosties one.
Leicester Tigers rugby club, Fly Half, number 10, also England fly half, Google It!!, ( I knew that but didn't relate), good clue, good answer :thumbsup:
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Try this one then - and it better not last long 'cos I'm away all weekend!
"Tigers ten cast spell on grass"
I'm about to set off, so if someone guesses right - and they'll know because Tobias :) will tell them - then just carry on regardless.......
Hint, Erm.--- "Tobias" = "Toby"?????
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You may well be but I still don't understand why Tigers ten = Flood. The only Toby I know is the Frosties one.
Surely thats "Tony the Tiger??". (You sure don't know your Frosties :)). :lol: :lol:
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So here goes - first one, be gentle...
Jimmy's citrus plantation drink without a painful exclamation to an alien
Anyway, bump the latest clue, as its a fresh page :)
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St Cuthberts Swallet?
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Not Cuthbert's...
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Sidcot Swallet?
Jimmy (Sid James?)
Cot (small plantation for shelter of cattle)
Swallet (Swallow without OW and with ET)
Not sure where the citrus fits in so I may be barking up the wrong tree!
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Wrong tree, wrong jimmy...
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Hillgrove Swallet?
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Seville (Saville) Orange Swallet. :lol: :lol:
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andys has it:
Jimmy - Hill
Citrus plantation - Grove
Drink without a painful exclamation to an alien - Swallet
Perhaps two team-sport related clues in a row put some of you off...?
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Nope - I quite like team sports (except football, hockey, cricket, basketball, F1, rugby league, water polo, netball............).
Have a go at this one:
"Pip's story - a novel way to name a cave!"
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Great Expectations?
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That's it in one - over to you Grahams.......
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First thing I thought of but then I thought it was too obvious, baffled by simplicity! :'(
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Here's another that shouldn't be too hard:
:o with 3 doubles.
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Gaping Gill (ghyll) ??
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It's yours Bograt - over to you.
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Cheers Graham;
Scampi, losing point four out of five, confuses god by inverting zenith.
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Come on folks, no guesses, no clues >:(
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That's cos we haven't worked out the answer yet, but aint going to be defeated!
Best I've come up with so far is Palfrey Pot (NC1 but never heard of it before) but [email protected] if I can make "Scampi" into "PL" ! :doubt: :doubt: :doubt:
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Come on folks, no guesses, no clues >:(
That's the trouble with being cleverer than everyone else - you've no-one to play with ;)
Well, if you completely ignore the first half of the clue, you could get Dog Hole (assuming hole=inverting zenith, but it's probably not :()
So far, I've got Scampi losing point = campi, four out of five =camp (or less likely, ampi), but I've not heard of a Camp Dog Hole or anything similar
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Well, if you completely ignore the first half of the clue, you could get Dog Hole (assuming hole=inverting zenith, but it's probably not :()
I assumed zenith = Top so inverting gives pot...
however, that's as far as I got... :unsure:
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Well I'm assuming that the clue reads something like
"Scampi losing point" is something like "prawn" but without one of the points of the compass, so either PRAN or PRAW (but it could be shrimp or lobster come to that)
"four out of five" is to remove four - i.e IV in roman numerals - from FIVE to get FE
"confuses god" is one of the old gods, like Ra or Odin, but anagramificated, and then
"inverted zenith" simply means TOP backwards ie POT.
So that sort of makes PRANFEAR POT, which (interestingly) is the name to be applied to my new discovery next weekend, in the Oxlow area, just to get the answer to this clue......
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:lol: :lol: :lol:, Ok guys, you have given me enough entertainment, A Clue;
Scampi = "Dublin Bay Prawns" ----??
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Langcliffe Pot then?
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Close, but no cigar (yet) :)
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Langstroth Pot
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But cannot for life of me see how four out of five can switch OUS to ST?
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All yours hoelen.
Langoustine - take out point - N - four of the five vowels - eiou = langst
Confused god - Thor = roth
Zenith - top - inverted = pot
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AHHA, I took out the point - as in "Tine".... to leave Langous and the THOR bit was easy enough. Never mind. I very rarely 100% get the crossword clues in the papers and have to work backwards to find out why something fits...
Good, another simple one from me then.
Bomb dropped from Top of the Pops together with added sulphur with a sounding hole in Warwick Avenue.
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Carlswark cavern??
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Nope! Come south and west
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Read's Cavern?
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North and west!
Bograt had the first letter of both words correct. I am off to the SWCC hut in an hour or so, so will have to give it to you before I leave.
It will be on my right as I head up the heads of the valleys! Just checked on the map and it appears to have 1 less "S" than I have given it. Sorry
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Gottabe Chartist Cave?
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Gottabe Chartist Cave?
Reckon you're right if Hoeleforster don't get back!
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Correct..
Top of the pops = Chart Hits
H Bomb dropped, but together with S from Sulphur = Chartists (OK so it is Chartist Cave!)
Kave is in Warwick Avenue and sounds like cave!
Over to Grahams....
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Thanks hoehlenforscher and Andys
Here we go again:
"This doggy has stripes so it sound's like it's ...."
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.....retched a rabbit?
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Ha, Ha, no but you're in the right NC.
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Barkin Pot then?
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Not Barkin
Sorry folks but I'm an occasional twit with my apostrophes. 'sound's like' should be 'sounds like' i.e. standard crosswordese.
For that and to keep things moving, here's a mega-clue:
Think 1980's children's literature.
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How about "Step (stripe?) + Spot (doggy)" + Steps Pot?
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Very warm in selection of literature but I'm a bit negative about the location.
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Well I suppose a "craftsman" could be said to have earned their stripes - So how about Craftsmans?
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Not Craftman.
Andys was very close with (Where's) Spot, the kid's book series, and very close in location with (Marble) Steps Pot.
5, 3 words, and it's a wordplay clue, not an anagram. Feel free to groan when you get it.
"This doggy has stripes so it sounds like it's ...."
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Notts Pot ?? (going by geography rather than puzzling skills...)
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Notts Pot ?? (going by geography rather than puzzling skills...)
Well its got to be that, or Large or Hunts - but I'm going for Large 'cos other wise the answer has "S pot" in it and my guess there was considered "close" rather than "correct". Though how you get Large Pot from the clue is beyond me! :unsure: :unsure:
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Notts Pot ?? (going by geography rather than puzzling skills...)
Well, if he's stripey, he's certainly not spot. :)
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Groan! ;D ;D
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JasonC is correct.
Apologies to all (especially to AndyS who so nearly spotted it) for my lousy cryptic caving skills.
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Au contraire - it was the best sort of clue: you can't get it for ages, but you do, it seems obvious...
... the penny didn't properly drop until after I'd posted the answer. But it was early... :wall:
Ok, try this:
Key found on right, at the end, between several roads
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Too hard ? Bit of a clue, then - it's not in the Dales
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Can't get a handle on this so wild guess:
Agen Allwedd?
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I'm thinking along the following lines, but currently stuck waiting for more clues!
Key on right - assume this is a keyboard key, so something like DEL, INS, END, or it coud be a musicakl keyboard, in which case it would be WHITE
At the end - short word for armegeddon? Or FINI or something else from a film?
Between several roads - some sort of combination of the letters A, B and/or M?
But all these seem to be a lackng a final pot, cave, cavern, hole or similar - so either this place doesn't end thus or is so widely known without that it has avoided inclusion in the clue?
In other words - H E L P ! ! !
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Garden Path?
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Stenterst?
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Graham S: Aggy isn't the only cave outside Yorkshire :)
Andy S: 'Key' is a good place to start, but you're barking up a different tree entirely
Bograt: Is that where you're going ? ;)
CricleyMal: wot ??
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Bograt: Is that where you're going ? ;)
Think its where I'm being led!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Surely not Wookey Hole?
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Ashford Black Marble Mines?
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Not Wookey Hole, nor any Hole at all. Nor any Mines ....
What do keys do ?
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CricleyMal: wot ??
The enter key is on the right at the end and I put it between two roads St being short for street as you know ;D
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Stoke Lane Slocker
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Reckon you are right Bograt, though I can't make Stoke. Was there a word missing from the clue?
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Right = OK
The end = e
Street (St) + Lanes
(At least thats what I think! :-\)
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:clap2: :clap2: :clap2:
Correct in every respect. And of course key=locker ;)
I wanted to say ".. between two roads" as that made more sense, but someone would have objected that "Lanes" was more than one road
Well done - back to you Bograt!
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:clap2: :clap2: :clap2:
Correct in every respect. And of course key=locker ;)
I wanted to say ".. between two roads" as that made more sense, but someone would have objected that "Lanes" was more than one road
Well done - back to you Bograt!
Thanks for that Jason,
Try this one;
" Soldier, six footer, left in Oxford maybe"
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Giants - Oxlow?
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Come on Andys, Think about the Oxford Connection!!.
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Sorry, its late - maybe it should read Giants Hole?
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Andys. you have got it !!!
Maybe Explain it to the populous???.
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Soldier = GI
Six Footer = ANT
More than that, I don't know :-\
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I think an Oxford is a shoe so Left in Oxford gives you shole.
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Superb team effort, got there in the end ;D ;D ;D.
Over to Andys.
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Excellent chaps .... Anyway, try this ...
"Swiss mistake 25th! Depressing site after it gets dressed for Christmas."
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Hmm, something to do with Cherry?;
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Cherry Tree Hole
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'Tis indeed Cherry Tree Hole ..... do you want to decipher it for t'others?
Anyway, over to you Crickeymal......
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Cherry Tree Hole
:clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:
Ch = Switzerland.
Mistake = err
25th letter = y
"Dressed" for Christmas = Tree
Depressing site = Hole.
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:thumbsup: Couldn't see where the S would come from and thought there must be one as without it the clue would be a bit sloppy, so possibly not Giants.
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:thumbsup: Couldn't see where the S would come from and thought there must be one as without it the clue would be a bit sloppy, so possibly not Giants.
I try not to clue sloppily! :) :) :)
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An easy one
Reforge pony, reforged!
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Ogof Pen Eryr?!?
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Bugger, beat me to it. Nice anag.
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Well done Andy
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Try this'un then inspired by The Ashes!
"Short prod then fifty - followed by a century - leads onto top spin."
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Hmm, must be something like ------ton pot??
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Elbolton Pot?
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That's the one Dunc - over to you...
prod = elbow (as in "to elbow" someone), short - reduce it to ELBO
then fifty = (roman numerals) = L
and the rest is just as Bograt surmised.
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Ooh, finally got one again, cool, I'll throw an easy one in:
In this cave I see darkness rising, am I speaking the right lingo?
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ogof ffynnon ddu?
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Yes, was too early in the day to have my thinking cap on and make it harder!
Cave - obviously.
Black - darkness.
Spring - rising.
Change the lingo and you get OFD.
Over to you Grahams..
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Thanks Dunc and to continue the OFD theme:
"Well I'll go t't foot of our stairs, it's Ogof Ffynnon Ddu"
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Got me beat, is that a clue?
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Here's a major clue: translate Welsh into Yorkshireish.
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Black keld?
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That it Speleofish
"Well I'll go t't foot of our stairs" implies Yorkshire dialect.
Ffynnon - Keld (spring in Yorkshireish).
Ddu - Black.
Over to you.
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Oh bugger. This may be a bit obvious.
A lake, six singles and a sketch
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Meregill Hole?
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Close. No cigar
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Meregill Skit
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All yours Bograt
lake = mere
six single measures of spirits = a gill
sketch = short play, also = 'skit'
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Ta muchly :)
" Artist, front to back, goes on line test after getting rabbits foot back."
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OK, quick clue;
"The artist in question was once very intent on a creation."
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I don't know why but -
Blake Bank Moss Cave?
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I reckon it's a mine not a cave. That is if I interpret the intent on a creation bit right.
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Not Blake Bank, Crickley's getting warm :) :)
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Indeed - is it Wapping Mine?
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It is indeed, andys, over to you :) :thumbsup:
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Super duper..... have a try at this one then....
"Full Ahead!" ordered, with worms reset.
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OK, quick clue;
"The artist in question was once very intent on a creation."
Explanation please Bograt or AndyS - why Wapping Mine?
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If I'm correct its....
after getting
rabbits foot = Paw, so
back = WAP
goes
on line test = PING (internet test utility)
Artist = Tracy Emin, so
front to back = MINE
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So that'd be Wapping Nime? :)
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No, Emin front to back, not back to front :lol: :lol:,
Andy is exact in every respect ;D
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OK, quick clue;
"The artist in question was once very intent on a creation."
Explanation please Bograt or AndyS - why Wapping Mine?
This was an indicator for artist Tracy Emin, one her controversial creations was a tent with her boyfriends' names written on it. :)
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No, Emin front to back, not back to front ,
Andy is exact in every respect
So if it had been Emin back to front would the answer have been Nemi?
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Could have been! ::) ::)
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"Full Ahead!" ordered, with worms reset.
All I've got so far is "Washfold Mauler", more like the name of a caver than a cave!! :shrug: :shrug:
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Waulds Farm Hole ?
... no, neither have I
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"Full Ahead!" ordered, with worms reset.
All I've got so far is "Washfold Mauler", more like the name of a caver than a cave!! :shrug: :shrug:
Excellent suggestion for a name for the new royal baby - I'll forward it on to Will and Kate forthwith!
Waulds Farm Hole ?
... no, neither have I
I can see where you're coming from - but, no, wholly made up names ain't going to get the trophy!
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So, I've found "Swallet"; o,u,a,m,f,r,d,h,w,h,i, Anyone?? :wall:
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Eek!
Guys, I need to come clean here: the cave I thought I was clueing doesn't appear to be called what I thought it was called! Which means I've messed up big time! :chair: :chair: :chair:
What I thought was called "Redhouse FARM Swallet" (in the Forest of Dean) appears to really be called "Redhouse LANE Swallet".
Sincere apologies for wasting your time and I better quickly hand over to someone else (and check more carefully in future!)
Jason and Bograt each got one of the words right so over to whoever gets in first.....
..... and apologies again. :-[ :-[ :-[
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Over to you Jason, my brain hurts ::) ::)
Aah, so it was "Worms reset"! ;) ;)
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Can I have a go?
"Backwards lollipop misses middle rim and joins imperialists with silk, losing one of five" (12)
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Not quite a waste of time for me at least - I know a bit more about worms, both wriggly and computer. Now where's the aspirin?
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Pollnagossan?
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Not quite a waste of time for me at least - I know a bit more about worms, both wriggly and computer. Now where's the aspirin?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Poll is right at the start, but it's not Pollnagossan
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Pollnagollum then?
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"Backwards lollipop misses middle rim and joins imperialists with silk in losing one of five" (12)
I'm afraid not.
oh dear, it seemed so obvious as I typed, but now I'm thinking it's a bit convoluted.
A clue, though one word, it's in three sections as is the clue
Poll / ???? / ????
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I can only find a couple of 12-character cave names beginning Poll - Polltullyard, Pollatoomary & Polltoophill - but can't make either fit the clues.
And the only "name in three parts" I can think of is Pol-An-Ionain, which only has a single "l" in its "Pol" - and even then I can't make it fit either!
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Christ, even the queries – let alone the clues – are getting convoluted:
a couple of 12-character cave names beginning Poll - Polltullyard, Pollatoomary & Polltoophill
!! Maybe that's an Irish couple ;)
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haha! oh well failed miserably.
a rim is lip Lol lip op backwards is polol
one of five is a vowel, remove the O to get Poll.
A type of silk is tulle, joined with polol in removing a vowel, the E to get tull
And imperialist is the yard
Poll joined to yard with tull, 3 parts to a 3 syllable cave name.
polltullyard
righty ho then, where's my coat :-[
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Couldn't get the "tulle" bit, but there you go. And not "failed miserably" at all - excellent clue, and good to get "out of area" from Dales, Peak, Mendip and Wales.
Don't know if I ought to be setting the next clue given the cock-up with the last attempt - but here goes anyway......
"Centurions are chasing military medics, after doctor in hip reversal extracts usable retinas from incurable SAS veteran."
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Stump Cross Caverns?
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Not Stump Cross
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Pridhamsleigh Cavern?
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Spot on Bograt! Do you want to post the solution?
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Sorry, not at the moment, it mainly came from the hip reversal and the doctor, I will break it down later, too busy at the mo.' :-[ :-[
Will post something up later, anticipation is the best part of the feast ::) ::)
Although I would point out that taking "usable retinas" from "incurable SAS veteran" gives "caver", an "N" short. ;D
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Although I would point out that taking "usable retinas" from "incurable SAS veteran" gives "caver", an "N" short. ;D
But, but there is only 1 n in usable retinas and there are 2 in incurable SAS veteran so you should have at least one spare ;)
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Good point, I said I was too busy, I overlooked one of them :wall: :wall:
The rest of it goes like this;
Doctor (Dr) in hip reversal = Pridh
Army Medical Service = AMS
Centurians = Leigh rugby club
"Hot lengths round the bend, its thrown."
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Hull Pot?
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Top marks for speed, over to you Hoehlen---- :)
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Good point, I said I was too busy, I overlooked one of them :wall: :wall:
P.S. What kind of word is "icurable" anyway?? :chair: :)
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It started as nothing and then the weather turned. All that followed was a place of worship that lacked a certain something in the middle of nowhere.
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Ogof Capel?
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Damn. Too easy? Probably why I can never get your complicated ones...
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Damn. Too easy? Probably why I can never get your complicated ones...
Variety is the spice of life! (After cumin, cardomom, turmeric and chilli of course :) )
Anyway try this 'un...
"Posh house, with posher loo, starts making incontinence nearly enjoyable!"
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Palace No.2 Mine?
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Ha-ha! But no choccies for you yet....
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James Hall Mine?
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.... not JH - but you're in the right general area!
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...I'm going away for the weekend in a few mins time - but confident that I can leave you to judge amongst yourselves if someone gets the right answer.
And the winner can award themselves a pint!
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"Posh house, with posher loo, starts making incontinence nearly enjoyable!"
Just bumping onto new page :)
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Lords And Ladies Mine
What do folks think?
Posh house = House of lords
Posh Loo = Ladies
Starts (first letters) Making Incontinence Nearly Enjoyable
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Lords And Ladies Mine
What do folks think?
Posh house = House of lords
Posh Loo = Ladies
Starts (first letters) Making Incontinence Nearly Enjoyable
Looks correct to me. Have a pint on you.
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:clap2:
I would be happy to go along with that
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OK, thanks people :)
Try this;
" You get this when you wash up".
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Clean Pots? :lol:
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;D ;D Try again.
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Crackpot?
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Only if you're careless ;D, nope!
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Fatigue Pot? as in 'all washed up' - a bit like me with this clue.
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:lol: :lol:
Think about where you do it, not what you you do it to. ;)
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Gritstone Sink?
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Good, halfway there :clap2:, now, what happens to it when the activity occurs?
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Wet Sink?
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Over to you dunc :clap2: :clap2:
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That took a bit of head scratching Bog! Nice one..
Hmm, this should be a quickie:
Tell a short silly lie to Liz, she may be in danger.
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Why, if that's not Ibbeth Peril ! ;D
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It is indeed Ibbeth Peril, over to you JasonC..
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McCarthy and Donne temporarily unsure of location
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Lost Johns'?
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Yes, Dunc :thumbsup: - I didn't have time to think up anything more fiendish.
Back to you!
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Cheers JasonC. Well, I hope this one lasts a little longer than the last one:
That man has got no apostrophe, whilst my personal assistant, Vera, has lost direction.
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Hesp Alyn??
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Damn, need to conjure up some more awkward clues in future. Over to you Bograt....
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Know how you feel, its you against the world innit? :) :)
OK, quick scrabble in the grey matter came up with this;
"New coins replace their obsolete counterparts in bovine part, extended recepticle for the latter's produce".
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Penyghent Long Churn?
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Not PLC.
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Upper Long Churn (Udder - pence replaces 'd in old money)????
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And back to you hoehlen----- :beer2:
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OK, easy one (as all mine seem to be!)
Sounds like it's been eaten, or something like that!
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Pate Hole?
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Nope
(it is a bit obtuse I will admit)
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Obtuse is Good!!. ;D ;D
Something like;
Swill Done--- Anyone???
BTW, Andys, assume "Lords & Ladies" was correct?? :shrug:
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Cheddar Gorge?
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Obtuse is Good!!. ;D ;D
Obtuse is bad, Obscure is good, Obscene is better :smartass:
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Obtuse is Good!!. ;D ;D
Something like;
Swill Done--- Anyone???
BTW, Andys, assume "Lords & Ladies" was correct?? :shrug:
Yep. Lords & Ladies Mine correct in every respect!
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Sorry, back in the room.
Nobody is close yet... thought it would be simple. Obviously far too obtuse and maybe just a little silly :). Will give a clue in the morning.
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Titan?
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Getting closer (geographically speaking!). There, that's your clue
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P8?
As in sounds (very vaguely) like paté.
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Right answer, wrong solution..
My thinking was more along the lines of bean eaten which gives pea ate
Sorry. Guess it was a bit silly!
Anyway, back to Andy for something more conventional and impossible!
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Buy hook I by crook!....
Try this one:
Excessive! Queen follows track from a hot clerk!
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Otter Hole?
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Very clever, there must be a limit to the number of ways of clueing cave, pot, hole , ogof, etc. :) :)
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Otter Hole?
Spot on Graham - over to you.
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Otter Hole?
Spot on Graham - over to you.
Thanks Andys, got one right at last.
Here goes:
"You can buy your lights here if you take a registered nurse with French rearranged"
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Sorry to have to ask – but why Otter Hole? :down:
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Excessive! Queen follows track from a hot clerk
Excessive - OTT
Queen - ER
Remove track from A HOT CLERK - leaves Hole
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You can buy your lights here if you take a registered nurse with French rearranged
Peak Cavern?
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You can buy your lights here if you take a registered nurse with French rearranged
Peak Cavern?
I can see where you're coming from hoehlenforscher but nope.
To keep things moving, here's a couple of clues:
It's in Yorkshire and is well known, if only for it's odd name.
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Lante Shop Cave?
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Lante Shop Cave?
Well done AndyS again -
Lante(RN)
Shop
Cave (anag. avec)
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Excellenté! Have a go at this 'un then...
Sounds like a blemish on the disc after start of first track on Clannad album.
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Excellenté! Have a go at this 'un then...
Sounds like a blemish on the disc after start of first track on Clannad album.
Robinson Pot?
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Excellenté! Have a go at this 'un then...
Sounds like a blemish on the disc after start of first track on Clannad album.
Robinson Pot?
Near enough! Though I believe its Sunday Best name is "Robinsons' Pot" which give the clue a bit more street cred. Anyway, over to you GrahamS.......
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Sorry to be such spain, but could you explain the clue (again)?
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Hmm, "blemish on disc" = Sunspot, you little devious tinker :-\
Fulk, " sounds like sunspot = sons pot
After first track on a few Clannad albums, including "The very best of" = Robin.
P.S. andys, thanks for that, whilst googling Clannad I came across a really nice music access site, now stored in favourites :thumbsup: :clap2:
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Excellenté! Have a go at this 'un then...
Sounds like a blemish on the disc after start of first track on Clannad album.
Robinson Pot?
Near enough! Though I believe its Sunday Best name is "Robinsons' Pot" which give the clue a bit more street cred. Anyway, over to you GrahamS.......
Thanks Andys. Solved more by a process of elimination of Clannad songs than by skill on my part.
I'm off for a few days so here's an easy one. Will post the soln later this evening if it's not solved.
"Eric Pickles to child who has a rumbling stomach: 'No you can't have any of my pie. Get your own'"
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Doubt its right, but "Croesor Mine", may give ideas to others, considering the tight time scale :) :)
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Doubt its right, but "Croesor Mine", may give ideas to others, considering the tight time scale :) :)
No, fraid not - gotta go so here's the answer:
The word 'rumbling' was included as a pointer to Leck Fell.
Eric Pickles is rather large and a bit unpleasant in this instance - hence Big Meanie.
Apologies if it was a bit weak and obscure - just trying something a bit different.
Anyway over to whoever wants next go.
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Jumping in here again so try this....
"Middle of fishing boat, middle of fishing boat."
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Echo Pot??
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Close, but no cuddly toy!
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GB?
( janGada coBle )
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Hmm, "blemish on disc" = Sunspot, you little devious tinker
Fulk, " sounds like sunspot = sons pot
After first track on a few Clannad albums, including "The very best of" = Robin.
P.S. andys, thanks for that, whilst googling Clannad I came across a really nice music access site, now stored in favourites
Well, quite frankly, I'm not much the wiser.
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GB?
( janGada coBle )
Nice. I had GB from middle of fishinG Boat but couldn't reconcile it with the double clue (and fact that it wasn't really the middle!).
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Hmm, "blemish on disc" = Sunspot, you little devious tinker
Fulk, " sounds like sunspot = sons pot
After first track on a few Clannad albums, including "The very best of" = Robin.
P.S. andys, thanks for that, whilst googling Clannad I came across a really nice music access site, now stored in favourites
Well, quite frankly, I'm not much the wiser.
"Sounds like a blemish on the disc after start of first track on Clannad album".
OK Fulk, Step by step;
"sounds like a blemish on the disc; Blemish = Spot
Disc = Sun
Blemish on the disc = Sun Spot
Sounds like = Sons pot
After = comes after
Start of = Starts the answer
First track on the "The Very Best of Clannad" album = "Robin"
So the answer starts with "Robin" and "sons pot"comes after - "Robinsons Pot" - Geddit?? ;) ;)
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Hmm, "blemish on disc" = Sunspot, you little devious tinker
Fulk, " sounds like sunspot = sons pot
After first track on a few Clannad albums, including "The very best of" = Robin.
P.S. andys, thanks for that, whilst googling Clannad I came across a really nice music access site, now stored in favourites
Well, quite frankly, I'm not much the wiser.
"Sounds like a blemish on the disc after start of first track on Clannad album".
OK Fulk, Step by step;
"sounds like a blemish on the disc; Blemish = Spot
Disc = Sun
Blemish on the disc = Sun Spot
Sounds like = Sons pot
After = comes after
Start of = Starts the answer
First track on the "The Very Best of Clannad" album = "Robin"
So the answer starts with "Robin" and "sons pot"comes after - "Robinsons Pot" - Geddit?? ;) ;)
Did I cause all that? Wowsers!
GB?
( janGada coBle )
Not GB!
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GG then?
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Not GG. You were much, much closer with your last guess Dunc! Letters are 4,4.
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High Hull?
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Nope. And there's no missing pot/cave/hole/cavern/swallet/slocker/sink/mine or similar ending with this clue.
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Ahaa, so the second word would be "cave, hole, sink, mine, gill" or other four letter indicator of an underground feature, close to Fountains Fell, getting warmer folks!! :-\ :-\
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A reasonable analysis, and a correct one, even though that's not quite what I meany by "close"!
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so if the answer's Echo Hole, it was a touch ungenerous not to give it to Dunc ?
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....possibly so. :-\ But he did only get part of the clue, and probably the easier part at that! Oh - and it ain't Echo Hole! ;D
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Aah, sooo, it is a hole??? ::) ::)
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No its an "Echo" something - something that's "the middle of a fishing boat" yet isn't one of the common ones like hole/cave/mine.
PS I come from Yarmouth - historically, most of the fishing boats were of this type.
Not sure if I can make it any easier apart from telling which page of NC1 its on! :)
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That will be a Wherry then :-\
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No, wherries are mainly inland/inshore (ie rivers, estuaries, Norfolk Broads) transport vessels. I'm thinking of a sea fishing vessel, particularly associated with the herring industry.....
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Smacks?
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No - its drifters.
And the middle of drifter is RIFT so the answer was Echo Rift. I think I ought to let Dunc have it since he was nearest, so over to you Dunc......
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Ahh.. now I understand, I'll admit I would not have got drifters! Good one. :thumbsup:
I'll throw in one of my easy ones:
Talking about it, it sounds like I need to get wrapped up, only twenty, are you positive?
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Don't think its right but I'll throw it in anyway :shrug:
Winterscales Cave
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You've got the cave bit right, Winterscales is not the right cave though..
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Making a bid for the pendant, I'd like to point out that the middle of drifter is f or ift or rifte . . . not rift. :)
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Making a bid for the pendant, I'd like to point out that the middle of drifter is f or ift or rifte . . . not rift. :)
Making a bigger claim for the pendant, I think that "f" would be the centre of "drifter", whereas the middle could be anywhere except the ends. :) :)
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Weathercoat Cave?
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That's the one Andys, it is Weathercote Cave.
Just for those wondering; Talk about it - people always talk about the weather. Get wrapped up i.e. put coat on which sounds like cote. 20 is Calcium (Ca), positive is +ve.
Back to you...
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Tara!
Wordsmith loses point after trained setter follows crack say.
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Fisher Street Pot
( A damn good hangover trip!!! ;D)
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Spot on - though Gus O'Connor's ain't what it used to be!
Wordsmith = Poet, lose the point (of a compass = e) = POT
Trained (anagram of) setter = STREET
Crack = fissure, sounds like = FISHER
Over to you Bograt.....
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I'd be interested to know the situatuion in Fisherstreet at the moment, we used to camp on the sea front there for free!.
(And have a goooood time with Gus!)
O.K. new klew;
"Tratmans place?, not going back there!!".
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Templeton Pot?
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Didn't think it would last long!!
Where did you get the "pot" from Dunc?, as the Mendip chaps state, it is "Templeton".
Over to you, Dunc.
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I debated on whether to add pot, dig or just call it Templeton. Being a largely northern caver I'm used to things having something on the end so I added the pot bit to make it appear grander.. ::)
Anyway, here we go:
A flash of entertainment at the cricket, it's not the bottom that is mixed up.
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Boundary Pot?
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Not Boundary.
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A flash of entertainment at the cricket, it's not the bottom that is mixed up.
Just putting it on the new page :thumbsup:
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Finger Pot?
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Not Finger.
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Streaks Pot?
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Spike has it! Over to you...
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Grand, here goes...
Engage in warfare after folding your body into a ball with a weapon that misses the Leicester area, and then having a brew.
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Why Streaks Pot?
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Why Streaks Pot?
Streaks as in streaker; something that has been seen at cricket matches in the past (I could have said sporting events, perhaps). Best I could come up with in a short space of time and the word 'flash' was intended to be a slight hint too..
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Some uncharitable types would perhaps suggest that the only entertainment to be had whilst watching a cricket match would be a streaker... :unsure:
As for "it's not the bottom that is mixed up", top is "not the bottom" and mixing it up gives pot.
In the spirit of full disclosure (pun intended) I did do a cursory Google to check if it was Streak or Streaks as I only had a vague hint of a recollection of such a place existing - need to to more Derbyshire trips...
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need to to more Derbyshire trips...
Ah-ah!, a clue to the location of your contribution ;D ;D
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Nearcliff Wood Rift ?
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Nettle Pot?
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Pike Rift?
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Nope, nope and nope...
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Afton Red Rift? - though not at all sue why it should be!
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Fetalfightaxetea Pot?
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Fetalfightaxetea Pot?
:lol: :lol: :lol:, I'm pretty sure its a rift though ;D, Quite like the Pike idea too.
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Rift... as in weapon = rifle, without le from Leicester area, plus t from having a brew???
The rest has got me stumped though :-\
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Rift... as in weapon = rifle, without le from Leicester area, plus t from having a brew???
The rest has got me stumped though :-\
Good theory but I can feel one of those cryptic headaches coming on.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:, I'm with hoelen--- on that one, also with grahams on the headache, giz a clue :-\ :-\
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Right, well you've got Rift, that's safe </jim_bowen>
7, 5, Rift
Sounds like a cursed squeeze though...
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Rolling fight rift
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Curling Shell Rift?
I dunno :shrug: I made that one up
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Ok, so since I've picked a rather obscure one, here's an easier clue to the location:
P&G's cleaning fluids about the avenue, with a hunted animal...
HTH O:-)
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So we're in Fairy Cave Quarry? Over to someone with detailed knowledge of this location.
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I'm beginning to suspect that this is a new Cerberus dig. Probably one they have publicised yet....... :)
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Tucking Fight Rift
(Mendip cave registry)
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Too obscure perhaps? I don't normally do crosswords...
So, from the top:
Engage in warfare - Fight
after
folding your body into a ball - Tucking
with
a weapon (Rifle) that misses the Leicester area (remove "LE" - the Leicester post code area), and then having a brew (T) to give Rift
Clue 1:
Sounds like a cursed squeeze though - now you know it's Tucking Fight, this should be obvious... :furious:
Clue 2:
P&G's cleaning fluids (Fairy liquid) about (Circa) the avenue (shortens to ave) with a hunted animal Quarry
Off you go Bograt - I'll skulk off to a corner for a while...
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Too obscure perhaps? I don't normally do crosswords...
So, from the top:
Engage in warfare - Fight
after
folding your body into a ball - Tucking
with
a weapon (Rifle) that misses the Leicester area (remove "LE" - the Leicester post code area), and then having a brew (T) to give Rift
Clue 1:
Sounds like a cursed squeeze though - now you know it's Tucking Fight, this should be obvious... :furious:
Clue 2:
P&G's cleaning fluids (Fairy liquid) about (Circa) the avenue (shortens to ave) with a hunted animal Quarry
Off you go Bograt - I'll skulk off to a corner for a while...
Clue was ace Spike - no problems there - just never heard of (nor could easily find out) the answer! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Agree, good clue, totally obscure location, in the middle of a big block of small print on the MCR Fairy Cave Quarry page, no chance without the clues! :( :(
P.S. I believe the word to describe "Tucking Fight" is "Spoonerism" :)
Ok, a slightly better known one;
Grand union with Trent & Mersey congealed round barrier.
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Waterways Swallet?
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If that's the answer, I like the clue. :clap2:
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Over to you andys, you're too sharp for me ;) ;)
Thanks grahams :thumbsup:
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Thanks! :)
Have a go at this one....
"its hot back in the sun, surrounded by pigs."
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Swinsto Hole
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Spot on Bograt - over to you!
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Ta,
Smell them in Paris, leading citizens hail the Senior Service.
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Blue John Cavern?
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Where did the Blue John come from??. Sorry, not this time ;D ;D.
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Where did the Blue John come from??. Sorry, not this time ;D ;D.
Blue - the french (national colours) - so likely to be in Paris
John - a.k.a. toilet - so smelly
Hence "Smell them in Paris......" = "Blue Johns.....": but I knew it was wrong 'cos of the extraneous "s"
Anyway - back to the drawing board.........
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Pooles Cavern?
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Go for it grahams, care to elucidate?, or would you like me to?? ( or, indeed, do'es it need doing?) :) :)
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Go for it grahams, care to elucidate?, or would you like me to?? ( or, indeed, do'es it need doing?) :) :)
It's a an anag. of looes with P for Paris - I think.
This has two answers:
"Apple with me and potassium after a spinner reversed (has a Japanese relative)".
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Smell = POO
Them in Paris = French for "them" = LES
Leading citizens = C
Hail = As in "Hail Mary" - "Ave Maria" = AVE
Senior Service = Royal Navy = RN
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Pippikin pot
Nippikin pot.
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Pippikin pot
Nippikin pot.
You're too quick - back to you Bograt.
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:) :)
Difficult, untrained family take Panama Red.
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Hardrawkin Pot?
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Who's a clever boy then? :lol: :lol:
Your turn (not getting much done this morning are we! ::))
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Ha, ha - I'm multitasking the processing of yesterday's photos, wondering about all the almost caveless limestone north of Wild Boar Fell and gardening, so not a total waste.
Anyway, here's another:
"Sounds like your dog will do this is you make it exercise in hot weather".
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:lol: :lol: :lol: Pant Mawr
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Very good, back to you. :clap2:
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The Irish boy loses a point but gets good lead in the top section.
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Gean Pot?
Another one I made up!
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:shrug: :shrug:
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Irish boy Sean losing a point S getting good lead G. Makes sense to me ;D
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Still not right ;D ;D
Although some of the reasoning is along the right lines!.
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Dan yr Ogof?
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Round 2! ;D
Over to you grahams :)
Irish boy = Danny (boy)
Loses point (N) = DAN Y
Good lead= G
Top section = ROOF
DAN Y + G in ROOF = DAN YR OGOF :thumbsup:
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Ta. And now for something a bit different:
# # # # # #
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Hmm, Long Ash?
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Nah - keep going.
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Nameless Cave?
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No,
Time for a couple of clues-
Hash has featured in previous clues. Think about time rather than space.
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Little Pot?
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I can see the logic Fulk, but not this time.
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Lesser Stream Pot?
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Lesser Stream Pot?
Not Lesser Stream
OK additional clue time:
---- Pot
and it's in Yorkshire I hear.
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Steps Pot?
Actually a better guess would probably be Lower Bargh's Pot?
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Steps Pot?
Actually a better guess would probably be Lower Bargh's Pot?
Not Steps or Bargh's
Another clue which should put this one to bed:
It's 4 letters, Pot Pot Pot and is almost connected to one of the most exciting extensions in recent years.
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Link Pot?
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Echo Pot?
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Lost Pot?
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Echo Pot?
:clap2: That's it LesW. Obviously a rotten clue - I'll get me coat.
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Somebody else better have a go as I can't make one up... :-\
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O.K., quick & easy;
"Arthurs legendary weapon"
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Excaliber methinks!
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Methinks Excalibur :halo:
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Ex caliber - someone who used to drink alcohol-free beer but got better?
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:lol: :lol:, Said it was easy, go for it andys. :)
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OK then, here we go...
The Red Cross In Durhan University Shield All West Corruption.
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Durcs Swallet (must be a new discovery ;))
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...... sorry Fulk but, amazingly, that ain't right! ::) ::)
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Sorry from me also Fulk, didn't notice the discrepancy in spelling on the previous clue, if I get this one, you can have a go! :)
Redhurst swallet.
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...nope.
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Redhouse Lane Swallet
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St Cuthberts Swallet
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... St Cuthberts it is. Random guess or carefully crafted answer? Either way, over to you.......
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Ok I got Swallet, but why St Cuthberts?
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Ok I got Swallet, but why St Cuthberts?
The Red Cross In Durham University Shield = the cross of St Cuthbert
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuthbert (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuthbert) :smartass:
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I googled Durham University Shield but didn't find that info. Either they hid it or it just didn't stand out.
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To be fair, I searched for St Cuthbert, once I knew the answer... :unsure:
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... St Cuthberts it is. Random guess or carefully crafted answer? Either way, over to you.......
Got a fridge magnet from the Cathedral, should have got it earlier!!! :chair:
Go for it Fulk, I know you want to, :) :) :)
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Thank you bograt, that's a fine gesture:
CO gave thrills when turned out (5, 4, 4)
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Short Gill Cave?
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B*gger . . . . it took you all of 8 min 55 sec!!
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Most of that time was me trying to decide if Grot's Hill Cave was a place... :wall:
Anyhoo, this one should be better known than my last ;)
Jutting out to sea regarding a grammatical belonging of a point less pointless inn
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Bar Pot?
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Nah! Its Pierre's Pot I reckon.......
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Pierre's Pot it is.
andys - back to you...
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Super duper!
Here's a quick one then...
Its black - if levers adjusted.
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Lets try Birks Fell Cave??
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...said it would be quick! Back to you Bograt.....
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Dammit!!, got to get the grey cells going again, bear with me a while chaps!! ;) ;)
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O.K.!;
Led back to the acidity of Hydrogen, "Bravo"!!
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Delph Hole?
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I wondered about 'Delph' something . . . but bravo?
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All yours Roger.
Hydrogen = H
Bravo = OLE !!! (sorry, don't know how to do accents) :)
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Hmm....
Sounds as if it could be in the south east but is further west than that.
Explored by a guy from Ireland who wasn't Irish.
S'not really cryptic, but the best I could come up with after spending the afternoon laying a new carpet in the bathroom... :)
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Kents Cavern?
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Didn't last long, did it?
Over to you, Grahams
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Bravo = OLE !!! (sorry, don't know how to do accents)
Or apostrophes! ('ole é î ü è ç)
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Didn't last long, did it?
Over to you, Grahams
Cheers Roger
This shouldn't be too hard:
"Once it was a silver tankard but what is it now?"
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Pint Pot?
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Pint Pot?
Sorry Andys. As Paxo would say - nope.
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Pewter Pot?
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Bravo = OLE !!! (sorry, don't know how to do accents)
Or apostrophes! ('ole é î ü è ç)
All right, show off!! >:( >:(
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Still it's not so long ago since Fulk was having a few issues - http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=10956.msg149636#msg149636 (http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=10956.msg149636#msg149636) and subsequent posts for example... :smartass:
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Blood yell . . . you got nothing better to do than trawl through years of UK caving? :ras:
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Anyway lads and lasses, nobody is getting the right idea for my wonderful clue (apart from the word 'Pot' which is correct). I would have thought that one of the old codgers amongst us would have got this by now.
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There is a Silver Cave near Yangshuo in China, but it ain't a pot... :(
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Just to narrow the location down a heap Roger, it's in the Dales (and that's two additional clues).
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Hoh, Hum, back to Cave Maps........
It takes time for us old codgers to come up to speed :'( :'(
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Hoh, Hum, back to Cave Maps........
It takes time for us old codgers to come up to speed :'( :'(
Yes it does :weep:.
Whilst the cave is listed by CaveMaps it might not be a heap of use. Mendeleev might be though.
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Mendeleev . . . . elements . . . . but silver was always silver . . . . wasn't it?
Ahhh . . . AG Pot, AKA Grange Rigg Hole? (Thus acknowledging oneself as an old codger!!!!!)
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That's it Fulk :bounce: , originally named after Arthur Gemmel. The refs to 'heap' in the additional clues are to David Heap's classic book which describes a descent of Grange Rigg.
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OK, 'tis late . . . . . mañana. (see bograt, tildas an all!!)
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Swan and Belgian town after last of May (9 letters . . . Pot / Cave / Hole whatever understood)
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Penyghent Pot?
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Yep, grahams . . . too easy, huh?
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Thanks Fulk. Ghent gave it away.
Try this -
"The labourer might eat this Chinese food after the result of a day's digging"
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Red Rice Hole.
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Navvy noodle hole !
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Urban Belgian Dairy Lenght
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Navvy noodle hole !
Navvy Noodle it is Mr Fell.
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Long churn
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Nope !
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Penyghent Long Churn?
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Churn Milk Hole?
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No sorry
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Town Drain?
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Fulk has it
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Beer stream bomb, it's said (8, 4; Pot / Hole / Cave / whatever understood)
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Ayleburn Mine cavern
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yes indeed, bograt :clap2:
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Cheers :)
Philosophically replace first with second on idiots excavation.
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Price's Dig?
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Not Prices
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Hillocks mine ?
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Well done Roger - Just pipped me to it! Not that we know its right of course!!
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Over to you Roger. :)
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Tailless theropod wanders about claiming ownership
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Odin Mine ?
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Correct, Jason! Over to you...
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Roger and Bograt sailing home - me, I'm lost !
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Boggarts Roaring Hole, I wondered how long it would be!! ::) ::)
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Indeed, back to you
Boggart Bograt :)
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Where Tennyson might lead Maud.
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Into the Garden Pot :)
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Not quite, :unsure:
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Just plain "Garden Pot"?
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nope
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Black Bat Pot?
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nope
Are you leading everyone up the Garden Path?
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OFD, as that was accessed by a garden?
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Where Tennyson might lead Maud.
Alum Pot?
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That'll be one for you Paul. :clap2: :clap2: :lol:
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I'll let someone else take my go - I've never been any good at crossword puzzles...
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Brilliant, I can never get them but I like thinking I can!
How about this:
Pulled back from the tip at last, shortened Gaping Gill named by off duty Top Cat rival before losing the gear stick backwards in wriggle, near Manchester (6 6 3)
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That'll be one for you Paul. :clap2: :clap2: :lol:
Well done to Paul but there are two answers to this conundrum :beer2: the end of Tennyson's Walk on the IoW is Alum Bay, hence Alum Pot.
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Aah, but was Maud with him?? :lol: :lol:
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Ah but did Maud go down OFD? Anyway good clue - had me reading some ALT for the first time in my life. He says he went caving in Maud: a Monodrama and he cried and cried and cried - must have seen one of my digs.
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Aah, but was Maud with him??
Nah, she was in the garden!
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That'll be one for you Paul. :clap2: :clap2: :lol:
Well done to Paul but there are two answers to this conundrum :beer2: the end of Tennyson's Walk on the IoW is Alum Bay, hence Alum Pot.
Could that be the Diggle Wiggle Pit?
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Yep :clap2:
Good clue? :-\ I enjoyed fitting it in.
Pulled back from the tip at last, shortened Gaping Gill re named by off duty Top Cat rival before losing the gear stick backwards in wriggle, near Manchester
Pulled back from the tip at last = pit, at the end.
Shortened Gaping Gill = GG
Top Cat rival = Officer Dibble, off duty = dibble
renamed by GG = dibble becomes diggle
before wriggle losing the backwards on a gearstick 'R'
near Manchester because I was worried it'd be obscure (obiously not!)
Diggle Wiggle Pit
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Ta muchly.... have a go at this one then.....
Fabric screen contains lines and section of woven tracery.
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Valley Entrance?
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That's the one Grahams - would you care to elucidate for the others?
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That's the one Grahams - would you care to elucidate for the others?
Thanks - I was hoping you wouldn't ask as I'm not entirely sure:
Fabric screen contains lines and section of woven tracery.
The hidden word 'entrance' (minus n) gave it away. Contains lines is 'll' leaving 'vaney' (from 'valley' and 'n') which is nearly 'vanity' (screen)-
the bit I'm not sure about.
Here's another easy one -
"Sounds like an ancient bell"
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That's the one Grahams - would you care to elucidate for the others?
Thanks - I was hoping you wouldn't ask as I'm not entirely sure:
Fabric screen contains lines and section of woven tracery.
The hidden word 'entrance' (minus n) gave it away. Contains lines is 'll' leaving 'vaney' (from 'valley' and 'n') which is nearly 'vanity' (screen)-
the bit I'm not sure about.
Nearly! I had...
Fabric screen = VALANCE
contains = VAL....ANCE
lines = LEY (as in ley lines)
and section of wovEN TR = ENTR
I should have come up with a better word than tracery but it seemed to fir the clue!
Anyway, as for yours - Old Ing?
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That didn't last long - it's your's Andys :clap2:
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Lets see how long this one last then.....
A cover version containing pale example of hierarchical structure.
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Rowan Tree Cave
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...not long it seems! Over to you Bograt...
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Ta;
F' ing Toper.
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Broken Finger Pot?
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Go for it Grahams :)
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Ta,
"inexperienced investor with bad intent"
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Wretched rabbit?
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Greenbank something?
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Sure its "Green" something.
I'll go for "Green Cowden Chert Mine", most likely incorrect but at least it advertises another Derbyshire site!! ;D
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Time for a clue: weirdly named, 4, 4 letters.
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Tent Mine :ras:
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"inexperienced investor with bad intent"
Time for a clue: weirdly named, 4, 4 letters.
Lamb Leer?
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Phew, that's a relief - over to you Bograt :clap2:
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More by inspiration than deduction! :-[
Apostles put up barrier to alien tailing communist Ben.
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O.K., Bank Holiday weekend, I will sit on it till Tuesday, unless other sad b*ggers are still around and want to contribute. :confused: :confused:
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Well, I'll have a stab at St Cuthbert's Swallet, though I don't think it's right as it hasn't got Ben or red and St Cuddy isn't an apostle....
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You are correct in assuming its not right :thumbsdown:
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"Apostles put up barrier to alien tailing communist Ben."
OK, holidays over, back to work you cryptic cavers ;D; clue;
"These apostles could go marching in to So'ton F.C."
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Could be Redhurst Swallet?
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I think you may have it there.
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Yup!. all yours grahams. :thumbsup:
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Yup!. all yours grahams. :thumbsup:
Thanks Bograt. Here's another:
"Trepanning will result in one of these"
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Deaths Head Hole?
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Good answer Dunc :clap2:. Not what I had in mind (Pate Hole) but over to you.
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;D cool..
Here we go:
A kiss and cuddle lacks the first element, whilst the party lacks direction.
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About 2 days and no guesses, I seriously doubt I've set something to flummox you lot! Anyway, I'll offer a small clue: (4,4)
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Smoo Cave
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:clap2: spot on bograt, over to you..
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Oh dear, smooch without H is smooc – huh? :-\
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Thanks Dunc;
Bkt telescopes.
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Oh dear, smooch without H is smooc – huh? :-\
And party, as in rave, without direction (right, or R) is ave leaving smooc ave.. A simple shuffle of a letter produces the result. Considering some of the howlers I've seen in this thread it ain't that bad, not quite crossword friendly but not totally obtuse, at least not in my eyes! :doubt:
Perhaps it's time to retire this thread to the same as wezzit - look at but no longer waste my time withreply to.. :shrug:
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Drat Dunc that's the only one I got! Though I've never heard of smoo cave so though it must be something else.
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(Out) Sleets Beck Pot? (don't know where the 'out' has got to though in the anag if this is correct).
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Correct Grahams, the letters are of "Sleets Beck Pot" but they are "Out" of order, geddit? ::)
(I think its called an implied anagram indicator)
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Aha I see. Thanks Bograt.
"Sounds like you'd better do this carefully before descending"
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Rigwell? (More of a "bump" than a guess!!) :shrug:
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Rigwell? (More of a "bump" than a guess!!) :shrug:
Might be a bump but you're 90% of the way there.
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Ok, Try Wellrig??
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Ok, Try Wellrig??
So near that all I can do without giving it away is: 4, 3 letters. The clue works just as well without the word 'carefully'.
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O.K., let someone else have a go before I have another "shot in the dark", they might at least know where you are thinking of, I don't like guessing! ;)
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Rigg Pot?
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Bump
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Rigg Pot?
Sorry Bograt - been away.
It's over to Dunc - Rigg Pot is correct. :clap2:
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I should thank bograt, his guesses pointed me in the right direction! :thumbsup:
Here we go with a quickie (I'm off out soon for the day, so if anyone guesses and knows it, carry on) :
I'd ring the doorbell on the hill, but it's not working.
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Knock Fell Caverns?
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Spot on Roger W, over to you.. :)
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Thanks, Dunc.
Over to the culinary section, then, and a vessel for preparing consommé with a spinachy flavour.
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Green Water Pot?
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Hadn't heard of that one, so no... not what I had in mind.
Where is it, by the way?
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In my fragmented, demented mind :'( :'(
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Iron Kiln Pot ?
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Bograt's closest so far....
The clue is in the stew... 8)
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We seem to be stuck here.
The stuff in the soup - giving its name to the cooking vessel - is alleged to have "astringent, expectorant, tonic, anti-inflammatory, diuretic properties" and to be "an important source of beta-carotene, vitamin A, C and E, iron, calcium, phosphates and minerals. All these qualities recommend it as a powerful remedy against hepatic, arthritic or rheumatic conditions, and as an adjuvant in treating allergies, anemia and kidney diseases."
Every caver should consume bucketfuls of the stuff!
But it's best avoided when looking for caves while wearing shorts and sandals...
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Hey that's my favourite prospecting gear - goes with the beard.
Nettle Pot?
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That's the one! Over to you...
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Cheers Roger.
Here's a quickie:
"Not found by Sumo, hole in a very strategic location".
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Time for a clue. The answer is hidden but staring you in the face. One word, six letters.
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Mohole?
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Mohole?
That's the one Andys :clap2:
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This probably won't last long. Or will it?
"Its barren with cavalry squad reformed!"
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Barlands Quarry Cave.
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Spot on Bograt - over to you....
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Ta;
" I thrash stone before getting the third Hoover back"
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Clue;
COPD, a few yards from the Derbyshire Border.
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Ecton Hill Caves?
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Not that far over the border :)
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Is Ilam Rock Cave any closer to the border?
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Thats the one andy :thumbsup:
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Try this un then....
"Had seen improvement in hard work!"
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Is it time for a clue, perchance?
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Hmm, "hard work"; strife, labour, slave, toil, drudge, -----anyone????? :'( :'(
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CLue then - this "hard work" sounds like it could be drawn out - with axes!
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And a pointer - its 7,5 and in Northern Caves Vol 1.
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Well Spittle Croft cave is the only one I can find but can't seem to make it fit the clue??
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Well Spittle Croft cave is the only one I can find but can't seem to make it fit the clue??
That's 'cos it ain't the right answer!
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lets try Grenade Shaft
("Had Seen" in Graft)
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That's the one Bograt!
(And for the follow-up clue, "graft" sounds a bit like "graphed" - which can be said to be 'drawn out, with an axis or two'....)
Over to you........
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Thanks Andy - all hail Cave Maps! :bow: :bow: ;;
"Sounds like something passed in race by Teletubby model on horse"
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OK, now you've all returned from your jaunt to Monmouth Comprehensive School, a clue;
Significant depth potential, COPD.
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Blind Ruminant here
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Usually shit at this but that will be Mountbatten Pot
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All yours Mark :)
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Could someone enlighten us (well, me) as to what is the clue and what is the answer?
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"Sounds like something passed in race by Teletubby model on horse"
OK, now you've all returned from your jaunt to Monmouth Comprehensive School, a clue;
Significant depth potential, COPD.
Usually shit at this but that will be Mountbatten Pot
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:( :( :( :( :( I'm none the wiser; COPD – chronic obstructive pulmonary disease . . . . . ?????
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Something passed in race (batten)
Horse (mount)
Tellytubby (po)
Model (t)
Copd (caves of the Peak District)
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Thank you, Mark.
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Try this one
"Sounds like empty greyhounds with rural Italian river twisting to right"
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Try this one
"Sounds like empty greyhounds with rural Italian river twisting to right"
Clue: Important Archaeological Cave
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Hmmm, got to be a "pot" or a "tor"???
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Hmmm, got to be a "pot" or a "tor"???
No it hasn't
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Without much confidence - Madawg Shelter?
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Without much confidence - Madawg Shelter?
:thumbsdown:
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Dog Hole Cave, Haverback ?
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Magnetometer
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clue: its in caves of the peak district, but not in the peak district
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Dog Hole Fissure, Creswell?
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Not worked out the full anagram yet but it looks like it may be Mother Grundys Parlour.
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Got it now :thumbsup: Brilliant clue ;D
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so "Sounds like empty greyhounds with rural Italian river twisting to right" = Mother Grundys Parlour
Go on then, tell me why.
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Sounds like empty = MT and with "greyhounds" is an anagram of Mother Grundys (albeit with a missing r)
Italian river = Po which gives parlour as an anagram with rural
Maybe the "twisted right" bit is the clue to the anagrams and gives the missing r?
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Thats how I read it, took me a while to find the M & T for mother, awaiting confirmation from Mark :)
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Far too convoluted.
Every 'proper' cryptic crossword I've ever tried to do includes the actual letters of anagrams (or uses very simple clues like 'S' for south), and doesn't leave you to work out first of all what those letters are!!!!!
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Not worked out the full anagram yet but it looks like it may be Mother Grundys Parlour.
mt (sounds like empty) greyhounds - rural - po (italian river) twisting (anagram) to R (right)
Nice one Boggy
Far too convoluted.
Every 'proper' cryptic crossword I've ever tried to do includes the actual letters of anagrams (or uses very simple clues like 'S' for south), and doesn't leave you to work out first of all what those letters are!!!!!
So this is a crossword now is it, maybe you would prefer the Daily Star version
Ma, Underpants, Living Room, - Archaeological Cave at Cresswell
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I liked the clue anyway :thumbsup: :thumbsup: thanks Mark.;
" Dianna evens out your heartless sales promotion, Bless !"
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Dan yr Ogof?
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All yours Graham :)
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Cheers Bograt.
"Provides lone protection from chalara fraxinea?"
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Especially For Fulk;
" Dianna evens out your heartless sales promotion, Bless !"
Dianna - even letters out = D A N
Your - heartless (heart out) = Y R
Sales promotion - Buy One Get One Free - BOGOF
Bless - B less - take out the B = OGOF.
Clear enough?, not too convoluted I hope? :) :) :)
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Cheers Bograt.
"Provides lone protection from chalara fraxinea?"
OK a clue - Peak District archaeological site.
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I'm gonna go with Shay Lodge Sinks - but not quite sure why!?!
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I'm gonna go with Shay Lodge Sinks - but not quite sure why!?!
Nah - Google 'chalara fraxinea' for the handle for this clue. (3, 3, 7) - not an anag BTW.
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Found it...
One Ash Shelter
:-)
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Found it...
One Ash Shelter
:-)
:thumbsup: That's the one.
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George and Andrew's severe effort while exploring mine
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Gautries Hole/Cave?
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" Dianna evens out your heartless sales promotion, Bless !"
Dianna - even letters out = D A N
Your - heartless (heart out) = Y R
Sales promotion - Buy One Get One Free - BOGOF
Bless - B less - take out the B = OGOF.
Clear enough?, not too convoluted I hope?
Thank you, bograt
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I was thinking more along the lines of Wham Sough, though can't make the second word fit (Yet).
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Perhaps I should quantify that I do not know this particular object (for all I know it may not exist!) and have simply lifted it from a list of caves/mines of the Peak (that is a clue BTW). And suffice it to say that Bograt is on the money, but not quite there yet!
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Wham Climbing Shaft?
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That's the one Graham. Over to you.... :)
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:lol: :lol: :lol: gud on yer hoelen---etc. :lol: :lol: :lol: you are welcome to it Graham :lol: :lol:
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Thanks Hoelenforscher and to Bograt for his Wham knowledge :-[. I almost feel bad for pinching the answer.
Here's another:
"Definite article falls apart"
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"Definite article falls apart"
To help you along a couple of clues:
3, 8 like Lancashire cheese
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Crumbly cheese perhaps? So; The Crumbles?
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:clap2: That's it Dunc. Over to you.
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The clue definitely helped!
Here we go with a quickie:
Ahem Alan, caution is required as you appear to be confused..
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Early week blues perhaps, I've certainly not kerfuffled people, will provide a clue tomorrow if I must..
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Early week blues perhaps, I've certainly not kerfuffled people, will provide a clue tomorrow if I must..
And the clue is?
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Oooh, I'd forgotten about that.. Erm, quick clue; Anagram..
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Waylam Lane Hole?
Made it up but it seems to fit!!!
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If someone else wants to post a new one feel free, I've not got time for this.
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Ok this one shouldn't be too hard.
Finished every book as Mr Ross would say, and not for the first time by the sound of things.
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Jonah should know the answer to this one...
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Looks like Agen Allwedd to me (it's in W(h)ales...)
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Took me a while but I can see it now. Nice one :-)
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That's it Roger or as Mr Ross would say Woger
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An awkwardly narrow pitch to descend, did you say? I didn't think it was...
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How does:
Finished every book as Mr Ross would say, and not for the first time by the sound of things.
become:
Agen Allwedd
?
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How does:
Finished every book as Mr Ross would say, and not for the first time by the sound of things.
become:
Agen Allwedd
?
I'm guessing Allwed = all read (as spoken by Jonathan Ross...) and Agen = again
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How does:
Finished every book as Mr Ross would say, and not for the first time by the sound of things.
become:
Agen Allwedd
?
I'm guessing Allwed = all read (as spoken by Jonathan Ross...) and Agen = again
Yup spot on.
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An awkwardly narrow pitch to descend, did you say? I didn't think it was...
Titan
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That was quick :thumbsup:
Over to you, Fred.
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How does:
Finished every book as Mr Ross would say, and not for the first time by the sound of things.
become:
Agen Allwedd
?
I'm guessing Allwed = all read (as spoken by Jonathan Ross...) and Agen = again
It's a great clue, didn't have the foggiest before I knew the answer and after, blatantly obvious! :clap2:
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(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/encryptic.png)
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Apologies but not around much online at the moment so I'm going to pass on my go - it's open to anyone else.
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Just to start the ball rolling again, how about.......
"Car version? Broom version!"
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Nice.... Borrins Moor Cave
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Spot on Jason - over to you.....
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Thanks Andy...
With bike race in cartoon explosion after a party - look out!
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Dowkabottom Cave
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:clap2: Spot on, Bob!
I thought that might keep folk guessing a bit longer, but you're obviously up to Bletchley Park standard :)
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:clap2: Spot on, Bob!
I thought that might keep folk guessing a bit longer, but you're obviously up to Bletchley Park standard :)
I'm obviously not, been lurking on this thread for a while and am still mystified by how you come up with and solve these? I don't think my brain works in the right way :-)
How do you get from "With bike race in cartoon explosion after a party - look out!" to Dowkabottom Cave?
:shrug:
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How do you get from "With bike race in cartoon explosion after a party - look out!" to Dowkabottom Cave?
I'm a fan of Roy Lichtenstein's work, so "Boom!" just leapt out, then "Kaboom"!, then TT - Isle of Man bike race ( common in crosswords in the papers, as is "Do" for party and "W" for with); "Cave" is probably the least obvious word - but I happen to know it's Latin for "beware", or look out.
So-
Party with TT in Kaboom, Cave = Do W Kabo tt om Cave.
I know. I'm sick. I can't help it; I hope this one's ok:-
You get 7 points for this shake hole
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Black Pot? (Where's that?)
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How do you get from "With bike race in cartoon explosion after a party - look out!" to Dowkabottom Cave?
I'm a fan of Roy Lichtenstein's work, so "Boom!" just leapt out, then "Kaboom"!, then TT - Isle of Man bike race ( common in crosswords in the papers, as is "Do" for party and "W" for with); "Cave" is probably the least obvious word - but I happen to know it's Latin for "beware", or look out.
So-
Party with TT in Kaboom, Cave = Do W Kabo tt om Cave.
I know. I'm sick. I can't help it; I hope this one's ok:-
You get 7 points for this shake hole
Thanks Bob, not sure about sick but there's a certain twisting, meandering turning going on somewhere :-) Impressive thought process though, doubt I'll ever get there. Black Pot I can see :coffee:
I wonder if anyone has ever studied abnormalities in the brains of people who come up with these things?
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Black Pot? (Where's that?)
shake and shiver?
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Black Pot? (Where's that?)
shake and shiver?
Apologies if I'm stepping on your toes a bit here TBE but the answer's gotta be Black Shiver Pot. As you've done all the work its yours if you want it - assuming that's it's right.
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Well no, Andy S did the work, I was just hinting that he was very close to getting it.
I'll leave it to AndyS because I'll just get told off by Fulk for not posting a "proper" clue :kiss2:
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Surely it should be that classic pothole on Leck Fell; Pot Black.. :-\
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... but the answer's gotta be Black Shiver Pot.
Spot on, Graham! Who's next?
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... but the answer's gotta be Black Shiver Pot.
Spot on, Graham! Who's next?
Well I don't know but since I'm up earliest (apart from BobG) here's an easy one to keep things moving:
"ʕ gnillihs a"
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BitterEnd:
I'll leave it to AndyS because I'll just get told off by Fulk for not posting a "proper" clue
Too right . . . but I see that Bottlebank's on my side :tease:
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I thought this should be easy for the old folks at least. Here's a bit of help -
"ʕ gnillihs a" (1, 1)
My money is on Fulk getting this.
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P5
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My money is on Fulk getting this.
Nah, sorry, i don't see what c-cedilla has to do with P5 or any other cave . . . and you're not suggesting that I'm one of the 'old folk' are you?
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Or GG. Or AG.
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My money is on Fulk getting this.
Nah, sorry, i don't see what c-cedilla has to do with P5 or any other cave . . . and you're not suggesting that I'm one of the 'old folk' are you?
OO no Fulk. I hoped that you might appreciate a clue of the highest quality :doubt:
I have a slightly devious mind (possibly partly thanks to BobG's influence) which is sometimes an asset when solving crosswords although maybe not for setting clues; just trying sommat different as I'm no good at granaams.
A shilling is 5p. 'gnillihs a' is 5p in reverse == P5, with a bit of poetic license on the capitalisation hence the backwards question mark.
Any road, stevlet_scg you are correct :clap2: so over to you.
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And I'm not even that old.
It's hard work guessing but harder dreaming up the clues - apologies in advance if I don't follow the rules of the clue setting - just ignorance that's all!
'Without an atomic bomb the Milliner would end up in a bog and then surrender'
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'Without an atomic bomb the Milliner would end up in a bog and then surrender'
Attermire Cave
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Easy stuff! All yours bob
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Try this:
Israeli kid reported off the coast of Iran
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Juniper Gulf
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All yours, bograt.
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"Sounds like I own an extra ten chains"
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Furlong Mine?
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Nearly, what about the "extra"
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Moorfurlong Mine (shamelessly cribbed from Mine Explorer)
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:clap2: :clap2:, Thats what its there for, :), All yours Crickley.
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Analyst's moldy stew must be thrown out.
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Symonds Yat Swallet?
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Too easy eh? All yours
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Too easy eh? All yours
Thanks Crickleymal - good anagram.
Three times the kudos for solving this:
"Holding doleful inclination with a birk for these three connected caves"
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"Holding doleful inclination with a birk for these three connected caves"
Old Ing, Dismal Hill & Birkwith ?
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They're the ones BobG. Next Please.
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12,4,4 - in a pretty cheesy area:
be ace, kick the chav twat - sorted!
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Thackthwaite Beck Cave?
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Over to you, Graham...
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Cheers Bob. I'm outa here for a while so over to someone else ...
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In like a rocket then! Have a go at this.
"Thick fog offshore, obscuring shapely point."
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Araucaria died today
http://www.theguardian.com/crosswords/2013/nov/26/araucaria-john-graham (http://www.theguardian.com/crosswords/2013/nov/26/araucaria-john-graham)
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No!! I knew he had cancer, but thought he had a couple of years in him yet.
Alas, and alack, truly the end of an era. Thank goodness we've still got Paul....
(with apologies for being off topic)
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Alas, and alack, truly the end of an era. Thank goodness we've still got Paul....
(with apologies for being off topic)
Indeed,, a great shame but he lived to a ripe old age.
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In like a rocket then! Have a go at this.
"Thick fog offshore, obscuring shapely point."
I think we might need a bit of help here Andys.
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OK a clue or two - the point is a cardinal one, and the river is a dry one. Any help?
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Err . . . what river?
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I'm guessing it's Ogof Hesp Alyn, mainly from the dry river clue...
ogof = f(og of)fshore
Shapely point, anagram of shapely and compas point N = Hesp Alyn...
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Spot on Les - over to you.....
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Spot on Les - over to you.....
Gis a clue Les. :bounce:
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Sorry peoples, I forgot I won!
No time to lovingly hand craft a clue so somebody else can have a go...
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Confucius, he say so velly due to be porruted...
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Confucius, he say so velly due to be porruted...
Errr . . . is that a clue?
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Confucius, he say so velly due to be porruted...
Errr . . . is that a clue?
Um - yes. Anagram plus indicator. ;)
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Time for a clue I think Roger ;)
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Valley Entrance, but then this isn't my sort of thing.
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Oh dear! So long since I posted that one, I've a) forgotten what the answer is, and b) can't manage to work it out! :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:
It was an anagram of the first bit, but the trouble with anagrams is that they are blindingly obvious when you know the answer but can be as impenetrable as Derbyshire cave mud when you've forgotten it. :'(
Something easier, that even I might be able to remember the answer:
Top Maul.
Anyone who can work that out can have the next go.
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Ha, Ha nice one Roger.
It's must be Alum Pot.
I'll post a clue when my cryptic head is back on.
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Over to you, Grahams :thumbsup:
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I don't think we've had these as yet:
"Lanky relatives at two points" 3, 3, 4 and 3, 3, 4
Two answers, not an anag.
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Shoud that be 4, 3, 4 for both?
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Shoud that be 4, 3, 4 for both?
Sorry folks, I am the weakest link - 4, 3, 4 for both.
Thanks for pointing out my stupidity Bograt.
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Shoud that be 4, 3, 4 for both?
Sorry folks, I am the weakest link - 4, 3, 4 for both.
Thanks for pointing out my stupidity Bograt.
Not stupidity, merely lapse in concetration, its been a long time :thumbsup:
Let folks have a go before I have to think of a clue :lol:
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Shoud that be 4, 3, 4 for both?
Sorry folks, I am the weakest link - 4, 3, 4 for both.
Thanks for pointing out my stupidity Bograt.
Not stupidity, merely lapse in concetration, its been a long time :thumbsup:
Let folks have a go before I have to think of a clue :lol:
Go for it Bograt. Let's breath some :bounce: into this forum.
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OK, Long Kin East/West.
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OK, Long Kin East/West.
That's correct. Over to you.
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Baffle saltire.
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Stump Cross...
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All yours Roger.
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Mr Barlow's Orifice
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Kens back passage?
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Which Mr Barlow?
He was commonly known as "Old Ned."
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Hangmans Hole.
BTW, there is a place called Kens back passage?
In Owl Hole, Peak District.
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Learn summat new every day! :)
Over to you!
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Learn summat new every day! :)
Over to you!
Thaks, Roger, wouldn't have got it without the clue, he's not in Wiki's list of famous Barlows ;)
Try this one everyone;
"Swing low, the EMO line"
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Try this one everyone;
"Swing low, the EMO line"
Clue; Derbyshire, "Owd Gits" stomping ground.
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Try this one everyone;
"Swing low, the EMO line"
Owlet Hole Mine
With thanks to the COPD Index (http://www.thedca.org.uk/Publications/Cotp-index.pdf)...
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Over to you Spike, well done :thumbsup:
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Mercy buckets...
Here we are then:
Confusing bylaw reels two around a bend
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Am I right in thinking the total letter count comes to 14 (or maybe 15?) and there is no definer (cave, pot, mine etc.) ?
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I thought "Wensleydale babe," then realised I had miscounted the letters...
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19 letters, three words, one of which is a speleological feature...
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Tyning Barrow Swallet nearly fits.
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Bowery Corner Swallet?
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Well done andys...
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Super duper ....lets try this 'un....
Camouflaged aircraft in HD?
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Arachnid Rift
Maj.
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That's the one, Maj - over to you!
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Ah Yes Ok then.
Hmmm! Not very good at crosswords so you'll have to excuse me if this is not a recognized format.
Shake despoil her, but mind those legs.
Maj.
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Spider Hole?
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Correct, Spider Hole it is.
Over to you Speleofish.
Maj.
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Peculiar swamp
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Oddmire?
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Sorry for the delayed reply. Oddmire it is. Over to you
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So lets have a mildly topical one...
"War won! Liberals sent packing!"
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Nine Barrows Swallet?
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That were quick Spike - over to you!
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It's to be found in Rev. Ochre's Chateau...
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Charterhouse Cave
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Too easy :down: I'm at work and didn't have time to think of a clue that wasn't an anagram.
I like the phrase though - think I'm gonna call Charterhouse that from now on
To you then Monsieur Bograt...
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Ta :)
Female throws song at length.
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Ta :) Female throws song at length.
Hmm. Gentlewoman's shaft exiting through Youds Level?
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Right book, wrong catchment.
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Shelob's Lair?
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And back to you, andys. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Right then (he says, after a couple of pints of the most excellent stout) have a go at this....
"Point with crossing and two fives in a line!"
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Sandford Levy?
BTW Shelob's Lair - good 'un Bograt :bow:
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Sandford Levvy (hasn't it got two "v's" BTW?) si spot on, so over to you Grahams...
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Cheers Andys and yes you're right - two v's.
Try this -
'Lost in bootleg linseed' is this hole
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Eglins?
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Eglins?
That's the one Speleofish. Over to you.
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Try this... It ends in 'Cave'
Hawks with gravity, not temperature.
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Gough's Cave? - though that would only work if you meant corvids instead of hawks! :-)
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Gough's Cave? - though that would only work if you meant corvids instead of hawks! :-)
Not really, 'hawks' has several meanings, one is to clear the throat as in 'cough'.
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Andys has the right answer, Bograt has the right explanation. Over to you Andys...
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.....thx, though more by luck than judgement it seems :)
Anyway, try this.....
"Turn L in Mud Hall to join the queue!"
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.....thx, though more by luck than judgement it seems :)
Anyway, try this.....
"Turn L in Mud Hall to join the queue!"
Disappointment Pot on a winch meet?
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Too true! - but it ain't Dis.
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Its all gone very quiet? Methinks a clue may be in order so, its three words (6,4,4) and its in NC3.
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Anyway, try this.....
"Turn L in Mud Hall to join the queue!"
(New page, I hate having to flip back! :unsure:)
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Dunald Mill Hole
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Dunald Mill Hole it is (interesting place BTW!) so over to you Bograt!
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Dunald Mill Hole it is (interesting place BTW!) so over to you Bograt!
Please explain Andys or Bograt. Ta.
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Knowing the answer, it's easy...
"L in mud hall" plus "dole" ('Join the queue' for it) can be rearranged to make Dunald Mill Hole.
S'not so easy when you don't know the answer, though!
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Thanks Andy, and Roger (saves me the job :thumbsup:) ;
" American league, inexperieced 20, celebrated on 8/5/45."
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Knowing the answer, it's easy...
"L in mud hall" plus "dole" ('Join the queue' for it) can be rearranged to make Dunald Mill Hole.
S'not so easy when you don't know the answer, though!
S'not so easy when you are under the impression (illusion?) that all the letters of an anagram should be included in the clue, rather than that one clue leads to another!!! :confused:
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Knowing the answer, it's easy...
"L in mud hall" plus "dole" ('Join the queue' for it) can be rearranged to make Dunald Mill Hole.
S'not so easy when you don't know the answer, though!
S'not so easy when you are under the impression (illusion?) that all the letters of an anagram should be included in the clue, rather than that one clue leads to another!!! :confused:
Errrm! Agreed. But DOLE wasn't "anagrammificated": rather it was just split into D and OLE and then these parts joined by the anagram element. Apologies if I'm wrong but I thought that was reasonable?? I, too, am no fan of the "clue to a clue" thingy.
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Ah, I see.
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Knowing the answer, it's easy...
"L in mud hall" plus "dole" ('Join the queue' for it) can be rearranged to make Dunald Mill Hole.
S'not so easy when you don't know the answer, though!
S'not so easy when you are under the impression (illusion?) that all the letters of an anagram should be included in the clue, rather than that one clue leads to another!!! :confused:
Errrm! Agreed. But DOLE wasn't "anagrammificated": rather it was just split into D and OLE and then these parts joined by the anagram element. Apologies if I'm wrong but I thought that was reasonable?? I, too, am no fan of the "clue to a clue" thingy.
Thanks Roger/Andys. That wasn't easy even knowing the answer.
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Thanks Andy, and Roger (saves me the job :thumbsup:) ;
" American league, inexperieced 20, celebrated on 8/5/45."
Time for a clue; My stomping ground.
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Boggarts Roaring Holes?
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How did you get that Graham??, Wrong ::)
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Bograt's stomping ground - the Eagle Hotel Buxton?
Actually it's Ivy Green Cave - Stoney Mid.
Ivy (league)
Green (inexperienced)
Ca (20)
ve (celebrated on 08/05/1945)
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All yours Mrs Trellis. Long time since I've been to the Eagle. ;)
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Flag on the bow and sensimilia gives a record of US$474,000,000.
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Hmm, Jack Pot?
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Jackpot aka P8.
Too easy. Over to you Bograt.
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Cheers :thumbsup:
"Cauldron for manly Dexter?"
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Bull Pot?
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Bull Pot?
Almost, a little more please? :)
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Bull Pot?
Almost, a little more please? :)
Bull pot of the Witches?
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Thats the one Crickley, over to you :thumbsup:
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Hail family of worms (not posh) says the Roman, weed in line.
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How does '"Cauldron for manly Dexter?"' come to mean BPoW?
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" Manly Dexter", Dexter is a breed of cattle so a manly one would be a "bull."
"Cauldron" is a witches pot, so "pot of the witches".
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Surely you don't need a hint for mine?
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All I could come up with was Valley Entrance, but I can't make it all fit!
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" Manly Dexter", Dexter is a breed of cattle so a manly one would be a "bull."
"Cauldron" is a witches pot, so "pot of the witches".
Thank you, bograt.
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No probs Fulk, BTW, just noticed this thread has reached 50 pages, party time?? :lol: :lol: :bounce: :bounce: :beer2: :beer2:
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All I could come up with was Valley Entrance, but I can't make it all fit!
Nope Mendip cave. Think Roman for hello (refer to your Asterix books)
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Avelines hole.
(Should that be "line in weed"?; Ho-l-e)
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That's the one. Ave = Hail, Family of worms = lineus -U for posh, all in latin.
Ok the syntax is a bit different "weed in line" but acceptable having been doing some of the Grauniad's and Independent's cryptic crosswords recently. Well, when I say doing that's a bit of a loose definitiion in itself.
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Cheers.
"Mood swing in Chardonnay, for example."
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Wood Mine?
Pure guess as I've never heard of the place.
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Windegg Mine Cavern?
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Crickleymal has it, its one of the Alderly Edge Mines.
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Crazy ensign in virgin mire
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Juniper Gulf.
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Nope and how did you come up with that?
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singing river mine
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You've got it. An anagram of ensign Virgin mire
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Well, um, crazy ensign was flag rearranged - Gulf (ok, I had to change a letter) and there is gin in virgin. Er, I was just hoping there was a logical explanation for the rest of it!
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Confused Mr Men characters, back in the hole
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Confused Mr Men characters, back in the hole
I don't like the above clue, reads better as
Confused Mr Men back in the hole
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Noon's Hole?
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Noon's Hole?
No, not Noons (how did you arrive at that by the way)
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Noon's Hole?
No, not Noons (how did you arrive at that by the way)
Mr No is a Mr Men character. Am I thinking on the right lines BTW?
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Noon's Hole?
No, not Noons (how did you arrive at that by the way)
Mr No is a Mr Men character. Am I thinking on the right lines BTW?
I like your thinking, but not on the right lines
(copd if that helps)
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Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease doesn't help me.
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Not knowing quite why: Merlin's Mine?
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Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease doesn't help me.
::) Caves of the Peak District
and no not Merlins
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Confused Mr Men back in the hole
Cmon I think you are thinking too much about this one
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I suspect it's actually quite the opposite...
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Confused Mr Men back in the hole
Cmon I think you are thinking too much about this one
Gis a clue - we're stuck.
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Anagram
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Anagram
I'd assumed that - still can't do anything with it though. :wall:
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Been purposely holding back to give others a go, you've all had long enough;;
Holme Bank Chert Mine.
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That probably qualifies you to wear the Anagram Solvers' jersey...
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Been purposely holding back to give others a go, you've all had long enough;;
Holme Bank Chert Mine.
Nice one boggy
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Like I said, its a question of wavelengths, I've known you for while Mark ;)
Something slightly different;--
"Any back right in Manchester United, rescue writer Lewis's initial exchange."
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a lazy guess: Mulu ?
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a lazy guess: Mulu ?
Far too lazy Jason :thumbsdown:
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At risk of sounding a bit peevish or pedantic, it seems to me that Jason's answer fairly well fits the clue (there is perhaps a bit more in the clue than the answer uses but it fits none-the-less) and this seems to have happened several times with answers. In a crossword the number of words and letters per word is known, also the clue would contain the type as well as the name of a thing (e.g. mine, pot, swallet, cave, region of the world, etc).
So to inject a bit more life into the thread, may be giving numbers of words and letters would help? It would at least allow people to rule out possible answers and avoid looking silly.
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O.K.;
"Any back right in Manchester United, rescue writer Lewis's initial exchange." (8, 4.)
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At the risk of being accused of being a pendant I would point out that Mulu is not actually a cave but is a place... :smartass:
There are a couple of caves in Mulu though... :unsure:
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At risk of sounding a bit peevish or pedantic, it seems to me that Jason's answer fairly well fits the clue (there is perhaps a bit more in the clue than the answer uses but it fits none-the-less) ....
to be fair to Bograt, I didn't think it fit all that well, but I couldn't be bothered to research the many writers called Lewis and thought I'd have a punt.
<wind-up alert>Anyway, it's probably some obscure hole in Derbyshire I've never heard of.....</wind-up alert>
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<wind-up alert>Anyway, it's probably some obscure hole in Derbyshire I've never heard of.....</wind-up alert>
:lol: :lol: :lol: First clue Jason !! :lol: :lol: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
(although recently mentioned on this site!)
I think the pendant ought to go to Les W. :thumbsup:
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I got the writer bit and how that fits into the last word. I just can't find an answer to the first word.
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Manynaru Cave ;D
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Almost there Fulk. :)
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Putting "any" back with an 'r' for 'right' in Manchester United could give "Myanaru"
"Save" with an exchange of the initials of CS Lewis gives "cave."
Not enough letters for the first word... (drat!)
Somewhere in Derbyshire??
Maynard's cave???
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Try again!
What colour shirts do Man United wear?
Reds + yna + r + cave = Reynard's Cave in Dovedale...
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:lol: :lol: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: all yours Roger.
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Yo' mus' be desperate to catch yo' frog.
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Dan Yr Ogof?
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That must have been too easy!
Over to you, Graham.
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Thanks Roger - good to see one that was a bit easier.
This shouldn't be too hard:
"this crag is getting higher" (6, 4, 6)
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Malham Cove Rising ?
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That's the one JasonC. Over to you.
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Thanks Graham - I must admit that having lit on 'rising' I just searched various cave lists till I came to one with the right number of letters :)
Anyway, try this:
Party! Brew up a measure - young boy embraces US bum.
I'll add the letter count if no-one gets it by tomorrow
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Hmm, "young boy" - Page?
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Dowbergill Passage
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Top marks, Fulk ! :clap2: :clap2:
... and somewhat topical.
In case anyone needs an explanation, party=DO brew up=WBER, measure=GILL, US bum=ASS, contained in PAGE=young boy
all yours....
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Turns out we maids lack pace in Verna (7, 8, 7)
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Turns out we maids lack pace in Verna (7, 8, 7)
Pikedaw Calamine Cavern?
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Huh; that didn't last long! Over to you, Mark.
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Huh; that didn't last long! Over to you, Mark.
Oh dear; that sounds so churlish! Sorry :(
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What I should have said is 'Well done for getting it so quickly'. :)
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Drunk Dons roll sign, around battery terminal (6, 2, 3, 11)
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Perhaps time for a clue please Mark?
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Perhaps time for a clue please Mark?
More than one swallow
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Sótano de las Golondrinas
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Sótano de las Golondrinas
Nice one traff
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Sótano de las Golondrinas
Yep, get all that - but I still can't find 5 letters (AASOT) in the anagram part? Or am I missing something? :)
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I parse it as an anagram of "dons roll signs" plus "anode" but then I'm left with SAT
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As far as I know, all the clues so far have been for caves of the UK. Are we now including world caves? If we are then an indicator of location might help reduce my aspirin intake.
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perhaps:
drunk = sot
terminal = anode
then if you take battery = aa
and merge that into the anagram of "dons roll sign"
you can get "las golondrinas"
As far as I know, all the clues so far have been for caves of the UK. Are we now including world caves? If we are then an indicator of location might help reduce my aspirin intake.
I don't see an issue with spreading the net a little wider, especially if we're staying with relatively famous ones. SdlG is almost certainly more well known than some of the UK caves we've had in this thread. and yes, I know I've put at least one overly obscure UK cave up...
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As far as I know, all the clues so far have been for caves of the UK. Are we now including world caves? If we are then an indicator of location might help reduce my aspirin intake.
A precedent has been set, see post 55, page 3.
Anyway, Traffs go.
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Manchester hole?
Traffs = Old Trafford?
Never any good at these.
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ftfagos pot?
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Anyway, Traffs go.
Er, don't that just mean that its Traff's turn to set the next clue, rather than actually BE a clue? :)
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I think we're having a larf till the next clue comes along.
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Manchester hole?
Traffs = Old Trafford?
Never any good at these.
haha Alex, classic :clap2:
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I still don't 'get' Sótano de las Golondrinas' from the clue . . . would you care to explain, Mark?
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ok, Traff is my nick name.....short for Trafford.......and I'm only 38........not old.......
Anyway whilst I visit this forum daily (without login in I add), I've never read this thread previously, I only glanced at it as the crow/concreting arguments have dried up.
I was working on the 'anode' part and the hint was a total give away.
To be honest cryptic clues are not my forte. Please give me a day or two to think about it.
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I still don't 'get' Sótano de las Golondrinas' from the clue . . . would you care to explain, Mark?
perhaps:
drunk = sot
terminal = anode
then if you take battery = aa
and merge that into the anagram of "dons roll sign"
you can get "las golondrinas"
:)
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Oh, I see, you're using 'drunk' to mean a) a sot and b) an anagram indicator . . . a bit dubious ;)
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No, 'around' is the anagram indicator, its on the end of sot anode. :smartass:
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Mmmmmm - but isn't "AA" both the answer to a sub-clue ("battery") AND a part of the subsequent anagram ( AA DONS ROLL SIGN = LAS GOLONDRINAS) ;)
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Its Traff's go really but hope no-one minds if I jump in under the "5 day rule". (Or is that for vegetables :) ) So try this quicky to keep things rolling along...
"Electrical arc we novices constructed."
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Water Icicle Close Cavern?
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That's the one Bob G!
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Not an anagram, but a bit crosswordy:
Many accidents here around winter-time in Paris.
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Black Shiver Pot
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I didn't think that would last long!
All yours, Barny.
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No SW of France for this Spanish Cubist ought to make you doubly happy when doing this Derbyshire mine (6,5)
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Nicker Grove?
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Not Nicker Grove
Is there somebody that can take custody of this if I give them the answer.
I had not considered the responsibility of answering the last one and am caving at the moment so will have very limited access to the internet after tomorrow.
Or just forget it and some one else start a new one.
Cheers
Barny
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Hi Barny, If you PM me the answer I will take over for you.
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No SW of France for this Spanish Cubist ought to make you doubly happy when doing this Derbyshire mine (6,5)
Barny has sent me the solution, time for a clue;
The main part of the clue is a double definition of the first word, the second word is implied by 'Derbyshire mine'.
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Magpie Sough?
As in Magpie has the latin name Pica Pica, and PICASSO (the famous Spanish Cubist) without SW (which, in France, would be SO) makes for PICA.
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Correct Andys (plus of course 'one for sorrow, two for joy' ---etc.)
All yours andys. :clap2:
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Cheers, and here's one to have a go at....
Blows, and could be blown, before losing nerve in scam. (7,4,7)
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Magpie Pica Pica Sough!!!!!!! That is so convoluted :confused:
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:lol:
7,4,7
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Windegg Mine Caverns
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That's the one !
"Blows" = WIND, "could be blown" = EGG, and the rest is an anagram of "nerve in scam".
Over to you Mark!
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Bump
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Knock Fell Caverns?
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:clap2:
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I was thinking more of Hillocks! :lol:, but Knock Fell I like! :thumbsup:
Anyone else want to jump in with a clue in the absence of Mark or Traff?
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The gas board have been digging up Shudehill again...
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The gas board have been digging up Shudehill again...
If that is a clue, "Boggarts Roaring Hole?"
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That's one way to describe the gas board, but not the right cave, I'm afraid. :)
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:lol: :lol: :lol:, Didn't think so, too many 'g's in the answer, no 'T' in the clue :lol:
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Clue: it's not an anagram!
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Manchester Hole?
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Correct! Over to you, Graham!
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Thanks Roger.
"Neither pessimistic nor optimistic for 24 feet of cave"
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'Scuse me . . how does
The gas board have been digging up Shudehill again...
= Manchester Hole?
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Hmmm . . . Is there a cave called Four Fathoms something or other? Maybe it's a mine?
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Fulk,
Shudehill is a well-known road in Manchester (or at least I thought it was - try Googling it).
So we've now got a hole in Manchester...
8)
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Fulk,
Shudehill is a well-known road in Manchester (or at least I thought it was - try Googling it).
Probably better known for its tram/bus interchange these days.
As for the clue; Hope Level Four Fathom Cave?
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Shudehill is a well-known road in Manchester
And I'm supposed to know that? :unsure: :shrug:
And where does the gas board come in?
Thing is, a cryptic clue is supposed to tell you what it represents; so some road in a big city does not mean that big city.
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Seems you're not happy there Fulk though it seems grahams knew Shudehill was Mancunian. I got that bit, but I will admit I spent a while googling gas companies trying to find a anagram of hole that was an acronym of a gas company or soemthing like that. Felt like when you get a answer in a crossword from the letters in the grid from other answers rather than solving the clue, not quite convinced it's right.
As for the current clue, I can see most things pointing to Lazarus having got it, that is if Hopeful is Hope full where full is level, which I think would be a rather good clue.
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Seems you're not happy there Fulk though it seems grahams knew Shudehill was Mancunian. I got that bit, but I will admit I spent a while googling gas companies trying to find a anagram of hole that was an acronym of a gas company or soemthing like that. Felt like when you get a answer in a crossword from the letters in the grid from other answers rather than solving the clue, not quite convinced it's right.
As for the current clue, I can see most things pointing to Lazarus having got it, that is if Hopeful is Hope full where full is level, which I think would be a rather good clue.
Fulk was almost there but Lazarus has it.
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I was passing by and Fulk had part guessed which made it easy for me to guess the remainder of it! So I nominate Fulk for a turn, if he doesn't want a go then it's open to anyone..
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Thank you, Lazarus:
Tough green relatives opt out (10, 3)
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Hardrawkin pot
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oh drat, I spent a good bit of time on that one and was totally wrong in the premise.
I was thinking 'relative' meant an anagram of 'Tough Green'.
It's always so obvious when you see an answer that fits as that does :clap2:
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Yep, that's the one, Bograt. :clap2:
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Cheers Fulk :thumbsup: ;
" Personal smell unknown, 'tain't yours."
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Box Mine?
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Yup!! :thumbsup:, all yours andys
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This probably won't take long....
Country - one of a pair - starts evacuation before booby-trapped tunnel explodes.
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Its two words, 12,4 if that's any help! :)
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Hollandtwine mine.
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That's the one Bograt - over to you!
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Thanks Andys; one a bit outside the usual stomping grounds---
" Dyke beside short barrier leads to hole in the ground."
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Gis a clue Bograt.
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OK, its a natural cave in England, but not in Mendip, The Peak District, The Dales, or Devon, although it may be in "Other areas" in one of the guide books, I've not checked.
(8, 4.)
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Don't know why but Creswell Crag (Caves)?
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Don't know why but Creswell Crag (Caves)?
Go South, young man ;)
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Milkwall Cave?
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At risk of being accused of extreme obscurity - Walditch Cave?
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At risk of being accused of extreme obscurity - Walditch Cave?
Thats the one Grahams, why obscure?---
" Dyke beside short barrier leads to hole in the ground."
Dyke (ditch) beside barrier (wall), short (wal), hole in ground; cave.
Your go :thumbsup:
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It's so easy with the answer haha! Ditchwal Cave ;)
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At risk of being accused of extreme obscurity - Walditch Cave?
Thats the one Grahams, why obscure?---
" Dyke beside short barrier leads to hole in the ground."
Dyke (ditch) beside barrier (wall), short (wal), hole in ground; cave.
Your go :thumbsup:
Cheers Bograt. I suppose the cave is well-known to all those Dorset cavers, to whom I apologise if I've caused offence.
This should be easy:
"Sounds like a mindless person leaps" (4, 4, 7)
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This should be easy:
:-[
I hate seeing those words describing a clue I can't get!
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Aire Head Risings perchance?
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Aire Head Risings perchance?
Very good. Over to you Andys.
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Thats the one Grahams, why obscure?---
" Dyke beside short barrier leads to hole in the ground."
Dyke (ditch) beside barrier (wall), short (wal), hole in ground; cave.
And there was I thinking it must be 'Wal-lezzie Cave'.
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Aire Head Risings perchance?
Very good. Over to you Andys.
Giz a clue andys. :unsure:
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Apologies for the delay chaps - been away on a long weekend! Anyway, here's a quick one to get the ball rolling again...
"Attempt more? Gone wrong!"
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Magnetometer Pot
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Spot on Mark - over to you...
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Twisted thread starter, or ginger halo's combined
(8'7'4)
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Boggarts Roaring Hole
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Boggarts Roaring Hole
Over to you Spike
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Read all about it! Read all about it! Read all about it! Read all about it!
Read all about it! Read all about it! Read all about it! Read all about it!
Wells aborts war!
Read all about it!
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Nine Barrows Swallet?
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Yarp...
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Are new arrival to ukCaving. Have people excavated in or outside Cryptic for new discovery prospect? With what success?
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Are new arrival to ukCaving. Have people excavated in or outside Cryptic for new discovery prospect? With what success?
Not sure that this is the thread you think it is Honest John! :)
But the clue is...
"Closed. Point put to one side before Craven mess it up."
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Shute Shelve Cavern
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Assuming it's right, another good clue!
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Assuming it's right, another good clue!
Thankyee kindly Ian, and it is indeed right - so back over to Spike again!
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Though it comes before a fall, it's missing the point and leads to Dudley's contraction. Fortunately, the Reverend's clue is often under the kitchen window.
6,5,4
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Priddy Green SInk?
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Apparently we're on the same wavelength - no offence!
Off you go...
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That was another great clue!
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Right then, here we go....
"Adjusts his route in strong winds."
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No takers? Perhaps a further clue is needed then - its (8,4) COPD.
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That would be Gautries Hole then ?
Not sure of the relevance to emphysema though.....
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Gautries it is so over to you......
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ok, try this....
Unknown doctor with pointless thermos, fifty/fifty about average ? (3,4,4)
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.....
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Too tough, eh? It's in NC3, if that helps....
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ok, try this....
Unknown doctor with pointless thermos, fifty/fifty about average ? (3,4,4)
Dry Gill Cave?
Although the Gi (pointless thermos) elludes me.
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:clap2: :clap2: :clap2:
Well done, Bograt - it was a bit convoluted - For you, and anyone else who cares:
Unknown doctor = DR Y (X is usually the 'unknown' in equations, but Y is just as valid)
Fifty/fifty = LL
About = C
Average = AVE
The missing GI is a bit naughty...
'thermos' is an anagram of MOTHERS, so could be described as 'mother's ruin' = GIN, and if pointless, becomes GI...
I'll get me coat....
All yours, Bograt :thumbsup:
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Jason, for Pete's sake! You should banned from this thread! (I thought it musty be Drx Flak Cave, but I couldn't find it anywhere.) :tease:
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OK, try this;
'Vend bits of a roach' (4,4,5)
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Fulk - ah, well you have to be prepared to THITHEBOXNK ;)
PS, you may find a hint to the latest one on the trips list :)
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Sell Gill Holes?
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Sell Gill Holes?
Aah, too straight forward methinks, goforit Fulk :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :)
As for 'mothers ruin', I like it, but perhaps I should'nt ;D
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OK:
Clean pen before left without right (8, 3)
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I like the 'left without right' :thumbsup: still got to work the rest out though :down:
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Washfold Pot perchance?
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Washfold Pot it is. :clap2:
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Excellent, so how about we...
"Mend backup plan on a1 container."
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Is A1 container Top Pot? As in Scar Top Pot (though I can't make Scar fit with the rest of the clue).
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Nope! And for a bit of extra help its a (9,3) sort of answer!
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Darnbrook pot?
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That's the one Bograt - and I'll leave you to explain it :) . Anyway, over to you......
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Mend is Darn
backup plan is plan B
in chess a rook sits on A1
Container = pot
???
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That's it Ian. Now lets see what Bograt serves us up with.......................
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Sorry about the delay folks, too kn*ckered last night, and couldn't get on the site this morning, here goes---
'Existed back on line in Oxford'
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Gizza a clue, Bograt?!?
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Was waiting or the excitement of sunny Leek to subside. :beer2:
'Existed back on line in Oxford' (6, 4)
This particular one is 'darn sarf'.
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Another clue;
'Oxford' could be a 'Brogue'---- or a trainer, or a plimsoll, or a sandal-----FFS!!
Or even a Sabot or Clog.
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OK, another clue;
Quote - - -
"There is a small cave near Compton Bishop
****** ****
that is not gated
it may have what some people seek."
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Denny's Hole? But apart from the line (l) in Oxford (Shoe) I can't work out why?
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A little light googling (plus andys' *****'s hole) led to this Whitelackington post (http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=5896.msg81327#msg81327) from 2008
Searching for Devil's Hole on the MCRA website reveals it's an alternative name for Sandy Cave, and the thread linked to also refers to a mine at Bathampton (referred to as Devil's Cave/Mine on the MCRA site.
Andys, take the next go - I can't be bothered you deserve it...
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Devils Hole it is;
'Existed' = 'lived' backwards -- get it ??
Looks like your go Andys.
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...deserved, or otherwise :) , here goes....
"Sounds like a repeat before full set of endless betrothals."
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I can see Rat Hole, but thats ignoring most of the clue! :-[
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Agen Allwedd?
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Indeed, Aggy it is to over to you.......
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Arrive with extra leanness or so they say.
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Cwmorthin?
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Yup, all yours
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This one sounds as if it could cost you to travel in Cumbria.
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This one sounds as if it could cost you to travel in Cumbria.
Time for a clue Roger, before you forget it?
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Ten Pound Gill?
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Forgotten all about this one!
What do you have to do if - say - you travel on the special congestion-free (?) bit of the M6 round Birmingham?
What caves are there in Cumbria? (Google is your friend...)
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Pate Hole?
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That's the one. :clap2:
Over to you...
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Great! good old wikipedia, eek, my go then.
Launder, don't up the ante, the kitty, it's big enough for a flock (8,3)
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Washfold Pot?
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Only just lasted half an hour! :clap2:
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Offer bugger RE – effect a cure? (7,6)
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Gouffre Berger?
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Only just lasted half an hour! :clap2:
So did this!
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Have a go at this one then: possibly also one you can do in less than half an hour! :)
Suspend relaying of manholes.
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Hangman's Hole?
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Thats the one - and 2 hours 45 mins too!
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I was only listening to Dave and Alan Brook talking about there this morning!
ok
Midday with the first of each gap (7,4)
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Oops! I got this wrong, a quick look on Wikipedia shows the clue should be like this
Midday's with the first of each gap (5,4)
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Noon's Hole?
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I'm a bit puzzled by the spelling of this one - could it also be known as nobody's orifice?
edit - I think young Fulk jumped in while I was typing...
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BH-- Revitalised after 14months!--- ;D
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Not being Northern Irish, I won't pretend to be up to speed but I thought the cave was known as Sumera until Dominic Noone was chucked down it and it was referred to as Noone Hole. I thought it would be spelt after the man, so my clue was:
Midday = Noon
with the first of each = E
Gap = Hole
Noone Hole.
I thought it was a rather easy clue, which it was, just for a cave that doesn't exist! :-[
Apologies for stagnating the thread by being under researched! Fulk I am sure will do better!
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Let's hit messy eagle round this cave.
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it's (3,8,6)
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The Easegill System!
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You got it, andys.
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Thx Fulk. Try this one then...
"Family. Members - Apple, Rhubarb and Gooseberry." (3,8)
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The Crumbles?
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That's the one Grahams - over to you!
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Cheers Andys.
Have a go at this:
"freshwater fish to reverse"
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Car Pot?
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That's it Andys. Hope there's more than the two of us playing.
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Yep! Getting a bit like tennis - anyone else got the balls for this racket?
So try this one...
"Confused poets rant in small bed." (9,3)
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A bit of a guess, well a big guess.
Spectacle Pot?
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Casterton Pot
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Aaa, skills, that looks right to me :thumbsup:
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Casterton Pot it is - over to you Steviet.....
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hhmm, seems that getting the answer right is the easy part ...
this is an easy one (and borrows heavily from the last clue) - I may be off line for a few days so if you know you're right just carry on ...
'this time of year plays havoc with Mrs Ashpit and she often ends up in the crib'
Steve
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'Tis the season to be jolly, and all that, so its got to be Christmas Pot methinks?
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Indeedy. Back to you Andys
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
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Nice clue Stevie, and well done Andy :thumbsup:
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Try this then...
"That's one evil shale collapse!"
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Aveline's hole?
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Too easy :)
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Avelines it is - your go Roger!
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Try this one: Owned by a brown-robed bird-tamer, captured by the Spaniards in 1591.
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Radaghast's revenge? OR Radaghast pot?
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"Sink me the ship, Master Gunner - sink her, split her in twain!"
Radagast's Revenge it is.
Over to you, Speleotron.
And a very happy Christmas to all cryptic cavers while we're at it!
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Hi Roger, I get (got, in fact) Revenge, but what's the other part of the clue?
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Hi Roger, I get (got, in fact) Revenge, but what's the other part of the clue?
Brown robed wizard with a penchant for birds in JRR Tolkein's Middle Earth methinks.
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Thank you, andys. Happy Christmas.
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Cummon Speleotron - use it or lose it! :tease:
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I'll take that as a "lost it" then! So have a go at this:
Sounds like thievery by gangsters with French extraction!
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Robin Hood's Cave?
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That's the one Grahams - over to you!
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Cheers Andys.
Here's another -
"first-class washbasin"
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Top Sink - he suggests, wondering if we've taken to ping pong! ::)
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top sink?
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:wall: damnit too slow
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Hard luck JoshW. Andys has it.
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Thankee - and tough luck Josh! maybe you'll have better luck with this one....
"Rhymer loses direction after trebles composition gets into the charts."
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Marble Steps Pot? but I'm not sure why.
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Dammit, I was nearly there...
Rhymer loses direction = Pot
trebles composition = anagram of trebles
gets into the = in the middle of
charts = Maps
Ma[rble ste]ps Pot
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Love it, please keep these going because one day I will get one - and award myself a flippin prize ;D
Pegasus,(who thought she was good at cryptic crosswords but finds she isn't :-[)
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I like a letter count, which may make it a bit easier.
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Thanks for the explanation Spike. Assume it's OK to carry on Andys:
"The boggart's wife might do this if she gets cross" (6, 3)
As an aside and nothing to do with the clue, how about extending the scope to include well known cave features - it's getting hard to think up new clues for pot, cave, sink etc.
Great idea - Pegasus
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"The boggart's wife might do this if she gets cross" (6, 3)
OK no takers - time for a couple of clues.
It's a wordplay rather than anagram and is a way into a major Dales cave, accessible only to the select few.
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I have an idea, but only by Googling around the clues - kinda feels like cheating, so I'll hold off for now to see if anyone else is going to guess...
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I have an idea, but only by Googling around the clues - kinda feels like cheating, so I'll hold off for now to see if anyone else is going to guess...
Go for it Spike. I would guess that you've come across the Dales folklore which provides the handle for this clue. I don't see that as cheating.
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Alright then, Jingle Pot...
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Alright then, Jingle Pot...
Very close but not correct - remember the boggart's wife is cross.
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Hurtle Pot?
I went with Jingle as Jinny seems to be the (Green) Boggart's wife's name, and the number of letters fit!
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That's the one Spike.
Good logic regarding Jingle Pot but it didn't quite fit the clue. I hadn't come across Jinny but had an ancient memory of the Hurtle Pot boggart, probably from Bill Mitchell's writings in the Dalesman in the 60's.
Anyway, over to you.
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Spain's domain lies between this farm building and an unimportant railway line.
(6, 4)
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Barnes Loop?
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Aye, thought it might be a bit on the easy side... :shrug:
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Its actually quite tough thinking one up isnt it.
Girls toy with a french ending lets all the heat out.
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Dolly Tubs?
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No.
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Its actually quite tough thinking one up isnt it.
Girls toy with a french ending lets all the heat out.
Can we please have number of words & numbers?? :)
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Dollimore Series?
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Its actually quite tough thinking one up isnt it.
Girls toy with a french ending lets all the heat out.
Would I be right in thinking that it somewhere in Eastwater?
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Hmm;
Girls toy - suggests 'Doll', but maybe not,
A French ending - suggests 'un', 'une', or 'H'
Lets all the heat out - suggests 'sink' to me---
Anyone ???
Would be useful to know whether it is a cave, or part of a cave?
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Hmm;
Girls toy - suggests 'Doll', but maybe not,
A French ending - suggests 'un', 'une', or 'H'
Lets all the heat out - suggests 'sink' to me---
Anyone ???
girl's toy = doll
French ending = fin
lets all the heat out = chimn??
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Ahaah, didn't think of that as a French ending :thumbsup: :thumbsup: ;D ;D
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Altogether now "Dolphin Chimney"
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Where is it??? :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:
(Besides, I don't agree that a chimney lets all the heat out ---- smoke- yes, heat, no-)
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Where is it??? :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:
GIYF.... https://davethecave.wordpress.com/2006/05/16/eastwater-dolphin-chimney-9th-may-2006/ (https://davethecave.wordpress.com/2006/05/16/eastwater-dolphin-chimney-9th-may-2006/)
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My go?
Fourth doctor's mixed up gratuity immediately predates the carboniferous. (6,3)
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Baker's Pit?
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Baker's Pit?
Got it in one :thumbsup:
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Fly West Mr Connery for example, become disarranged to make a stone church. (6, 4)
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Eglwys Faen
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Altogether now "Dolphin Chimney"
:clap2:
Sorry forgot to add numbers and part of cave :-( Doubly well done taramole.
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Correct Mr Ship-badger. Over to you.
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Sounding warmer and complete, there's no end to either. (5,4)
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Otter Hole?
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Malc has it. Your go.
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Good clue! Didn't have the foggiest but with the answer it's all of a sudden obvious!
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An easy one.
The complete toper I hear. (9,4)
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drunkards hole?
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Good clue! Didn't have the foggiest but with the answer it's all of a sudden obvious!
Yes, excellent clue. Managed to get the (w)hole bit but not Otter's
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drunkards hole?
Yes, over to you.
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managers moneykeeper involved in place shifting (3,7)
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Bos Swallet?
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correct :thumbsup:
Managers: Boss'
moneykeeper: wallet
place shifting = space shifting: boss wallet = Bos Swallet
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Super! Have a go at this one, though the letter count here would be a bit of a giveaway methinks, so how about we try without it first? :) Though this is a cave and not a feature.
"Every other solo event is a beefcake in opt-out deal."
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Sleets Beck pot.
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Sleets Beck pot.
Should it not be "Out Sleets Beck Pot"
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'Tis indeed Out Sleets Beck Pot.
So should I give it to Bograt, who broke the back of it, or to RichardB, who added the finesse?
Well I think it should be RichardB as I don't think he's had a go before, so I hope Bograt forgives me!
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I still can't work it out and I've got the answer in front of me :shrug:
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I still can't work it out and I've got the answer in front of me :shrug:
"Every other solo event is a beefcake in opt-out deal."
In this case "every other" means "select every other letter from", and from "s o l o e v e n t i s a b e e f c a k e" you get "sleetsbeck". And "deal" means to rearrange, and when you rearrange "opt out" you get "outpot". And finally "in" means put the first in the second, so you'd get "outsleetsbeckpot". Now its just a case of splitting out the words. Savvy?
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Well I think it should be RichardB as I don't think he's had a go before, so I hope Bograt forgives me!
Hopefully this will be ok...
Sombre chasm maybe part of a cave (4,7)
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well that is frankly genius. :beer2: :clap2:
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Well I think it should be RichardB as I don't think he's had a go before, so I hope Bograt forgives me!
Hopefully this will be ok...
Sombre chasm maybe part of a cave (4,7)
Moss Chamber?
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Sombre chasm maybe part of a cave (4,7)
Moss Chamber?
Correct:
"Part of a cave": the definition.
"Maybe": indicator word for an anagram
"Sombre chasm" - anagram of "Moss Chamber"
Over to you.
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Dismal grime is strewn around here. 6,5
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Gimli's Dream?
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Yes. I'm going to have to make these clues harder
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Thanks crickleymal.
"tough uncooked relatives after a mug (10, 3)"
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Hardrawkin Pot?
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That's it Fulk. Over to you.
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Aromatic tree with an awful gap (7, 4)
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Juniper Gulf
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I didn't think that would be too difficult. Over to you, Alex.
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Tunesmiths minus Jerry, change you to oh ” In the summer time”, with half a half. (5,4)
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mongo gill?
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yes, Mongo Gill, it is your turn now JoshW
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shuffled roman cloth worships in a cavity (10,6)
I think that works anyway!
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Goatchurch Cavern
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nailed it! over to you
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Goatchurch Cavern
This thread is driving me nuts - please explain why Goatchurch Cavern :blink:
Thanks, Pegasus
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Stop dancing on the ceiling and start digging (7? 4)
if I ask if an apostrophe counts as a character it will probably give you a clue, if it does (8 4).
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Toga=goat Worship =church cavity=cavern
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Toga=goat Worship =church cavity=cavern
Thank you :thumbsup:
Toga=goat, OK got it. First trip I ever did btw :)
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Stop dancing on the ceiling and start digging
Lionel's Hole?
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Spike, well done Sir :clap2: your turn.
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Thank you
Shouting, I jumped from the bath and ran straight down the road to the intersection (6, 8)
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Eurika Junction
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that's a great clue! ALEXW on a roll today, absolutely dominating
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Eurika Junction
Aye, though I'd probably spell it with two Es :smartass: Good job it's not in a proper crossword!
Over to you...
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Its my last one of the day I really need to get some work done, a nice easy one...
A tan emphasizes the site of an old wound, I’m on my way to see the homes of troglodytes. (5 4 5)
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White Scar Caves?
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That it well done, computer is going off now before I get sacked :clap2: :clap2:
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A human clan goin' in here?
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How many letters ?
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Sorry about that!
4 3 9,
or maybe 4 3 5 4
which should really give it away...
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Allt Nan Uamh?
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Uamh Nan Claig-Ionn?
:shrug:
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Alex has it. Too easy?
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It was not easy at all, It gave me a headache until Graham's answer suggested Scotland. It is Scotland's deepest cave. Graham you did most of the work will you set the next challenge?
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Would not have gotten that in a million years!
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I'd twigged it weren't English, discounted Wales (not enough L's or W's!) - but sailed to the land of guinness and leprechauns. And got nowhere! :-[
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Just to keep things moving have a go at this.
In an open valley, with Nick and Bad Seeds a cleric used this to bring a meeting to order.
(10 5 4)
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Well done ALEXW - my answer was only partly there.
To answer your clue: Bishopdale Gavel Cave?
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Well done, now it really is your turn to set one. :clap2:
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Cheers ALEXW.
Here's another:
"Sounds as if it should be small but is very deep (5)"
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Titan (tight 'un)?
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Titan (tight 'un)?
That was quick. Over to you Roger.
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Oh 'eck, it's hard work thinking them up...
Did the Kangxi emperor take his beer mug with him to his last resting place?
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4 3 ?
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Sorry, no. Keep forgetting those numbers!
8 3
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Google he say Jingling Pot?
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Google he your friend!
Jingling is the tomb where ol' Kangxi is buried, in the Eastern Qing Tombs east of Beijing.
Your go, grahams!
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Ah so Roger, thanks. Try this:
"An witch with gravity and a quarter pint cup (4, 4, 3)"
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Hagg Gill Pot
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Nice one Alexw. Your go.
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It was a guess, how did gravity fit? I almost put Foss Gill Pot on account of a foss being a waterfall..gravity.
let me think of one Back soon.
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It is bad that I spend time at work doing this, it is very bad that I now do it at home, anyway have a go at this...
A fishy sounding source of an antiseptic astringent itch inhibitor, measureless to man 7 8 7
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pikedaw calamine caverns
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Correct :clap2:
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Start of a town full of old books coupled with an aromatic mountain herb is complete. (7,4)
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Haytime Hole
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Good stuff Emsy.
Your go
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Alex, gravity (g) giving the second g
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Alex, gravity (g) giving the second g
That's right Ian. Araucaria (the Guardian's crossword setter) used common abbreviations and SI/Imperial units to add or remove letters from words. He also used many other techniques such as hidden words, homophones and well-known literary references.
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pig heads into hillside with deceased relative (7,4)
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boreham cave
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too easy...........................
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Where this magpie might keep property (7,4)
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Robber's Cave?
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No, not a human
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There used to be a coal mine at Chorley...?
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where this magpie might keep his property: geordie hole?
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Following JoshW's suggestion - a quick Google turned up Jingling Geordie's Hole, a sea cave near Tynemouth.
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oh there is actually a cave called geordie hole? I just went off the football team connection..
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where this magpie might keep his property: geordie hole?
No, not a human
Ah the secret is out! Nether foyyballer's nor Geordies are human! :ang: :spank:
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Cuckoo's Nest?
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So where did these apostrophes and extra letters come from?
What sort of bird is a Magpie?
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Cuckoo's Nest – 7, 4 – and you didn't say anything about apostrophes – they don't count. And I guess a magpie is a thieving bastard, but that's 8 letters (The Thieving Magpie, huh?).
'appen I was tho king of Cuckoo Cleves :)
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What sort of bird is a Magpie?
A corvid. Pica pica. So ? Is it the well-known Corvids Safe cave ?
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So, where is cuckoo's nest? (apart from 'fallout', which I can't see you being a fan of)
The cave I had in mind is in Northern Caves.
Perhaps I'm being too obscure....what other corvids (which share criminal tendencies) are there?
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..what other corvids (which share criminal tendencies) are there?
Jackdaw?
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'appen I was tho king of Cuckoo Cleves
Blasted spell checker; it should have read ''appen I was thinking of Cuckoo Cleves'
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'appen I was tho king of Cuckoo Cleves
Blasted spell checker; it should have read ''appen I was thinking of Cuckoo Cleves'
Can't get a grip on this one Fulk. Any chance of no. of letters?
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It's not a clue, it's a complaint; I suspect bograt got it with Jackdaw [Hole]
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Ha ha - I know. I was going to suggest 'erron pot but couldn't make it fit.
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Yes,
Bograt has it with Jackdaw (Hole), though he did seem a bit uncertain...
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Uncertain mainly because a Jackdaw ain't a magpie, although I suppose a magpie could stash his loot in a jackdaws hole :-\ :'(
Try this--
Back Lone Rangers horse with Uranium, has a go on the golf course. (8,4)
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Uncertain mainly because a Jackdaw ain't a magpie, although I suppose a magpie could stash his loot in a jackdaws hole :-\ :'(
Try this--
Back Lone Rangers horse with Uranium, has a go on the golf course. (8,4)
Gautries Hole
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Over to you Crickleymal :thumbsup:
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Noddy's boys meet Ms Shields we hear for dodgy dig for lions. 5,5,5,6
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Slaid Mhore Flood Risings? (OK, I made that one up! :-) )
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Slade Brook ***** Rising, but I can't find another word...
EDIT: Ah-ha, Slade Brook Flood Rising (wherever that may be...)
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I got the Flood Rising bit, but what on Earth are Noddy's boys and Ms Shields? (I thought it might be River Cover Flood Rising, Cover sounds like shield? But obviously not, and it wouldn't explain Noddy's boys anyway.)
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Blimey that was quick. Slade Brook Flood Rising it is, minor FoD cave near St Briavels.
Noddy's boys = Slade as Noddy Holder was the "singer", Brooke Shields and an anagram (dodgy) of dig for lions. OK Spike it's over to you.
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Well, I'm none the wiser for that explanation (apart from the anagram)!
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This is a cave feature in Wales, and you can stick it under the wee ninth hoss by arrangement
(5, 3, 3, 4, 5) and there is an apostrophe...
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Well, I'm none the wiser for that explanation (apart from the anagram)!
Surely you've heard of the actress Brooke Shields and the pop group Slade (So Here it is Merry Christmas )?
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No.
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Where have you been, down a hole in the gro....
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This is a cave feature in Wales, and you can stick it under the wee ninth hoss by arrangement
(5, 3, 3, 4, 5) and there is an apostrophe...
Time for a clue then - it's in a cave on the Llangattock escarpment...
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This is a cave feature in Wales, and you can stick it under the wee ninth hoss by arrangement
(5, 3, 3, 4, 5) and there is an apostrophe...
Time for a clue then - it's in a cave on the Llangattock escarpment...
Well, "Price's Old Dig Ogof Cnwc" almost fits including an apostrophe but Price's has 6 letters...
I can't make it fit the clue though. :down:
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This is a cave feature in Wales, and you can stick it under the wee ninth hoss by arrangement
(5, 3, 3, 4, 5) and there is an apostrophe...
Time for a clue then - it's in a cave on the Llangattock escarpment...
Well, "Price's Old Dig Ogof Cnwc" almost fits including an apostrophe but Price's has 6 letters...
I can't make it fit the clue though. :down:
Right system...
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This is a cave feature in Wales, and you can stick it under the wee ninth hoss by arrangement
(5, 3, 3, 4, 5) and there is an apostrophe...
Time for a clue then - it's in a cave on the Llangattock escarpment...
Clue 2: Could equally describe an arctic winter...
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Where The Sun Don't Shine?
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Bingo...
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Near to where the rum captain lives, disturb Mr Williams, the crag saver.
(6, 5, 4)
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Lesser Garth Cave?
Maj.
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Correct Maj. Over to you.
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Shorten trousers before dealing with the black.
(4,3)
Maj.
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Pant (Mawr) Pot?
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Nope.
Maj.
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Jean Pot?
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That's the one.
Maj.
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Thanks Maj.
Here's another:
"Poseidon's favourite theme park ride? (3, 10) a feature in (4, 3, 4)"
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The Waterslide, Allt Nan Uamh?
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Good one Andys - I was wondering whether The Waterslide might be a bit too hard being out of the usual areas although I thought Roger might get it.
Over to you.
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Thankee kindly, Graham.
Have a go at this.....
"Heaven's control room, duplicated for resilience?" (4,6)
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No guesses?
Perhaps I've overdone this one then, so a further clue..... this is a whole cave rather than a feature, and the "duplicated" bit refers to the fact that there is more than one cave with this name or something close.
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All I could think of for 'Heaven's control room' was 'Pearly Gates' . . . but it didn't fit.
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I thought Gods Bridge but that didn't fit either. :furious:
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I thought Gods Bridge but that didn't fit either. :furious:
Err--(4,6) --??
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God's Bridge Cave.??
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It is indeed God's Bridge, so over to you ALEXW!
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Good clue Andys. What's the problem for those that didn't like the answer?
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A run without ball touching bat, well done Mr O Dowd, were you helped by that “herbal tobacco”?
3 6 3
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Bye George Pot?
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Blinkin' eck that was quick.
Well done :clap2:
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Yearn for family's player's vessel (4,3,4,3)
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Long Kin West Pot?
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Not quite
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Long Kin East Pot then?
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Yes, I was wearing my pedants hat there for a minute. Either fitted the clue.
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Nothing wrong with a pedant's hat - I've got two! But here we go...
"Eccentric old bloke encapsulates anti-pr0no movement in the Dales." (10,3)
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Have I fallen foul of an automated "posting tweaker"? 'Cos I'm sure that what I wrote - and what the clue needs - should read " p o r n o " !
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Have I fallen foul of an automated "posting tweaker"? 'Cos I'm sure that what I wrote - and what the clue needs - should read " p o r n o " !
Googling 'pr0no' could take you to some divorce inducing links too, should you click on them. Anyway, I can't get a handle on this one. Might need a bit of help.
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I was going with Longford Pot but then realised I cannot count and it doesn't exist on Google, so I will go with Langcliffe Pot for no particular reason then the numbers fit.
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Coronation Pot
Eccentric old bloke - coot
movement = anagram of antipo rno
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Spike has it! Over to you......
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Norma leads to dissapointment (5)
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Mr Cooder is lost in Italy's second city...
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It all points to Marilyn, except for the fact that the number of letters do not fit. :shrug: :shrug:
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I'm confused, do both of Spike's clues refer to the same cave?
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(http://i.giphy.com/3xz2BLBOt13X9AgjEA.gif)
Over to you Alex...
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I had a headache trying to sort it yesterday, :wall: today's clues reinforced my original idea.
Give me a few minutes to think of one
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I'm confused, do both of Spike's clues refer to the same cave?
So, aside from the fact that Marilyn has 7 letters...
The first clue is simply that Norma is Marilyn Monroe's real name, and the Marilyn entrance leads into the Disappointment Pot route to GG
The second is n anagram of Ry (Mr Cooder) and Milan (Italy's second city)
I'm going to go and crawl into a hole now... (I wish)
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A nice easy one, its lunch time soon and I only think of clues in works time...
The look of an immature, lascivious quadrupedal ruminant.
4 4
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A nice easy one, its lunch time soon and I only think of clues in works time...
The look of an immature, lascivious quadrupedal ruminant.
4 4
I've had a quick google and I should add "Measureless to man". making the answer
4 4 6
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Lamb Leer (Caverns)?
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That is correct, Lamb Leer Cavern :clap2: :clap2:
now it is your turn :o :o
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Try this 'un then:
Jack accommodates lead characters in A Tale Of Two Cities. (6,4)
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Katnot Cave?
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Spot on GrahamS - so over to you.
For those wondering how come.....
"Jack" in this case is a "KNAVE"
"accommodates" means the above letters include the following ones
and the "lead characters in" A Tale Of Two Cities are the initials thereof, so "A T O T and C"
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Another good clue!
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Thanks andys.
"Behind Her Majesty with containers" (10).
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Erbuckets ;D
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Got to be Dollytubs" - apart from the fact that the letter count is wrong and that no-one would call Mrs Windsor "Dolly"!
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Not quite but you have the right idea Andys.
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Ahah! - Buttertubs!
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Correct Andys. Over to you.
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Excellent - so have a go at this one:
"Bet birdwatcher re-modeled the way in." (8,6,6)
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It looks like :
Wretched Rabbit Entrance,
Except, of course, that there are 8 letters in Entrance :doubt:
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Whoops! Sorry about that chaps - it can't have helped. But yes, Fulk, you're right so its your go.
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So:
Sing note about left French article with exercises incorporating love (11, 3)
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Chanterelle Pot perchance?
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It is indeed, Trogger, Chanterelle Pot.
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Wake up Trogger - your go! :)
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If you insist; this one should be easy:
"A Mammoth one in the States is just this."
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Large Pot?
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Sounds plausible - but wrong I'm afraid!
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If you insist; this one should be easy:
"A Mammoth one in the States is just this."
numbers please trogger :spank:
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Possibly (7 5) if it's not too obvious...?
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Sorry, thought it was so easy you wouldn't need more clues! Anyway it's (8,4).
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Elephant Hole ?
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No, not Elephant Hole.
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Phreatic Cave?
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No, not Phreatic Cave.
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Election Hole?
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Roaring Hole
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Sorry chaps, neither Election Hole nor Roaring Hole.
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... and Roaring has only 7 letters...
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Rumbling Hole
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Not Rumbling Hole either.
Think you all need to refer back to the original clue
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Mastodon Cave/Hole?
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Colossal Cave?
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It should be Frozen Deep given that much of the US is currently deep frozen and the Frozen Deep is Big - but not enough letters. Cannae get a handle on this clue. Pass the aspirins.
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Sorry folks - not even a Colossal Frozen Mastodon! You need to 'think outside the box' (of aspirins if necessary).
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I know it's (9,4) but I can't resist a go on Paracetam 'ole.
seriously now, Hangover Hole?
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Not Hangover Hole. Nor anything to do with aspirins or Paracetamol! It's all in the original clue, but you're not homing in on the correct part of the clue.
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National Park.
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No, not National Park...
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Well, you've got the best brains on here (well, this thread at least :) and not my own clearly!) thoroughly stumped, so another clue perhaps? eg any of : cave or feature, which bit of the country, which guide book etc etc
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OK a few extra clues - geographical, historical, mathematical:
In the Dales but has an American name.
Was extended by a Derbyshire club - the cheek of it!
Is approx. 0.0069039% as long as its big brother in the States (given as 651.8 km Jan 2016 figure in Wikipaedia).
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Congress Cave?
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Not Congress Cave! - at 280m long it doesn't satisfy the mathematical clue anyway.
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Meregill Hole
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Kentucky Cave?
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Kentucky Cave?
Beat me by one minute! :)
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Kentucky Cave?
Beat me by one minute! :)
;) if it is the right answer then I'll hand it to you, I've not got time to think of a decent clue and then keep checking answers.
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Spot on Inferus !! Kentucky Cave - which ties in with the original clue "A Mammoth one in the States is just this." Everyone was concentrating on 'Mammoth' when it was 'States' that was the key. So if Inferus is too busy I'll pass this over to andys because I'm sure he's just itching to have a go!
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Thankee kindly Inferus and Trogger (good clue by the way!) so have a go at this:
"T-spoon arrangement takes on new-fangled beer style" (8,3)
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Pontoons Pot? (If it is I've never heard of it).
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Not Pontoons - or anything else made up! :)
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Peterson Pot?
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Nope. not Peterson.
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If I can't have Pontoons Pot can I have Spontoon Pot?! (there IS such a word as spontoon!). Otherwise no other anagrams have emerged - if indeed there is an anagram?
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Craftman's Pot ? From the "beer style", though I can't see the T-Spoon connection... and it's really Craftsman's Pot so the letter count is wrong. Apart from that, how can it be anything else ;D
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If I can't have Pontoons Pot can I have Spontoon Pot?! (there IS such a word as spontoon!). Otherwise no other anagrams have emerged - if indeed there is an anagram?
Not Spontoon Pot - probably because I suspect it doesn't exist! Though there is such a thing as a spontoon: it a medieval pole weapon. :smartass:
Craftman's Pot ? From the "beer style", though I can't see the T-Spoon connection... and it's really Craftsman's Pot so the letter count is wrong. Apart from that, how can it be anything else ;D
And not Craftsmans either - and despite previous c*ck ups, I did check the letter counts this time! :ang:
But between you, you are getting quite warm!
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Robinson Pot? - I know it should have 's on the end but the name is sometimes misquoted.
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Scrafton Pot.
Anagram of craft (beer) and T-spoon (arranged).
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Scrafton Pot.
Anagram of craft (beer) and T-spoon (arranged).
That's the one, back over to you!
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I was under the impression that the letters of anagrams in cryptic crossword clues were supposed to be there in the actual clue, not in the answer to a 'mini-clue', as it were, contained in the overall clue – as is the case here.
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I was under the impression that the letters of anagrams in cryptic crossword clues were supposed to be there in the actual clue, not in the answer to a 'mini-clue', as it were, contained in the overall clue – as is the case here.
That's my understanding too although I've never seen the rules of crossword composition written down.
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I was under the impression that the letters of anagrams in cryptic crossword clues were supposed to be there in the actual clue, not in the answer to a 'mini-clue', as it were, contained in the overall clue – as is the case here.
Fully concur with that - but the letters of "CRAFT" weren't part of the anagram at all, they were included "en-bloc" within (indicator phrase : "takes on") the anagram of "TSPOON" (indicator word: "arrangement"). So I think that fits the bill of a properly formed clue! ;)
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I agree with Andys, the 'craft' is a complete word set within an anagram, there is no indicator to suggest it is part of the whole anagram.( Although 'new fangled' could be interpreted so)
Your go Inferus ----
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Apologies for the delay, tried to think of a decent clue, failed, wandered off and forgot about it!
I'll admit I'm not good at concocting clues so this may be wrongly worded, naff or really easy...
Short argument gains something potent, confusingly. (6,3)
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Can only be Rowten Pot?
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Apologies for the delay, tried to think of a decent clue, failed, wandered off and forgot about it!
I'll admit I'm not good at concocting clues so this may be wrongly worded, naff or really easy...
Short argument gains something potent, confusingly. (6,3)
No problem. I guess most of us are in the same boat.
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I can see why that is Rowten! nice clue :clap2:
Usually I haven't a clue!
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It is Rowten Pot. Over to Trogger. ..
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Classy stone kitchen item? It's a tough proposition! (6,4).
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Marble Sink?
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Spot on Pegasus! Over to you.
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Flo and Basil were on it
3, 5, 10
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er.... the magic roundabout
Surely?
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Yup! Over to you, Chris..... :)
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Bronte's SRT route
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Wuthering Heights?
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Fart oo ee Z.
Yep. Your go.
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Wild swan in climbing aid (8,4)
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Footnaws Hole?
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Yep, 'tis Footnaws Hole, andys.
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Ha! Here's an easy one - if you're a chemist!
KAl(SO4)2.12H2O.C21H30O2 (4,3)
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alum pot?
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Footnaws Hole?? Owd on a minute - I thought the climbing aid was a footholD - which would give Footnaws Hold...
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No, it's a hole into which you put your foot, as in the entrance to Illusion Pot. :tease:
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alum pot?
That's the one Josh - over to you!
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Mm, never heard them called 'foot holes' but I'll bow to your greater wisdom Fulk !
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the man who went to mow's dog outside the kitchen floor (5,3)
(I'm shite at these so let me know if the clue doesn't technically work)
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Stile Pot
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A good un there, Josh!
I'd have been able to get that if P.M. hadn't beaten me to it!
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yay! :beer2: well done Pie Muncher, over to you.
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Stile Pot
I was just about to google Slino Pot ....
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A quick one to keep it moving.
Demins lost Jar (4,3)
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Jean Pot?
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Said it was easy, well done Jean Pot is was.
Over to you.
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The end of hard american grey food in a blender. (4, 2, 4)
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Ogof yr Ardd? - though not completely certain why!
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Ogof yr Ardd? - though not completely certain why!
Correct. The end of hard is RD and American grey is GRAY. Add FOOD and put it in a blender so it's an anagram.
Over to andys.
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Cheers then, so have a try at this one....
"Dales site charts ice movement in surge." (5,4,4)
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More to keep this thread going than in hope it being correct - Churn Milk Hole?
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Not Churn Milk Hole!
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White scar cave??
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White Scar it is - over to you!
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Lutrinae perforation (5,4)
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Beaver Abyss?
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Nope!
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Otter Hole, no doubt.
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Quite correct Sir. Carry on
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Ping! Wake up Trogger!! :)
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To maintain momentum, how about a three day rule - a free go if a new clue is not posted?
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Gets my vote - off you go then Grahams!
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If you have anything andys go for it, otherwise I'll try to get something together later today.
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Okey-dokey, let's keep things going with this one then:
Attempt Mere and go on excitedly! (12,3)
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Magnetometer Pot
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Magnetometer Pot?
I'm too slow! ha
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Over to you then Jason!
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Yay! Got one at last.... Good clue btw, Andy (and I like your 'sig', reminds of the saying about the pointlessness of stamp collecting).
But anyway, try this:
Was back at start of summer, smiling when German replaced Norwegian factory (6, 8, 4)
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Devil's Grinding Mill has the correct sized words if you ignore the apostrophe..?
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PS - Can see the 'was' = lived backwards, 's' as start of summer, smiling as 'grin', and the factory is mill. It's the 'ding' bit I can't work out. N(orse) in 'dig' ??
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Well done Trogger, that's it :thumbsup:
If there were no offers, I was going to give out the word count as 5'1,8,4 by way of a clue.
The idea was 'smiling' = GRINNING, with D (German) replacing one of the Ns (Norwegian) - you've got the rest of it :clap2:
Over to you...
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Watching the clock? This feature is to be found in a pot, so it should be easy (but not the pot).
(3,7,2,4)
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The Passage of Time?
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Correct sir! - The Passage of Time in Strans Gill Pot. Over to you.
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Cheers Trogger.
Have a go at this - a well known feature of a Dales pot :
"Jumble of sea gaps" (7, 7)
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Time for a clue - the feature is in GG.
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Must be Anagram Passage !
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That's the one Trogger - was beginning to think that the clue might be too obscure.
Over to you.
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This may be too easy: Tap, tumbled and measureless to man. (5,4,7).
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Knock Fell Caverns ?
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Quite correct - and took less than 27 minutes! All yours...
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One I could get!
OK - another easy-peasy one.
Hollow insides? Not I!
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Nes?
How many letters did you say it was?
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Sorry! Keep forgetting... :-[
8, 4.
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Swildons Hole?
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Swildons Hole?
That's the one! :beer2:
Wundows 8 seems to have inserted a beer icon all by itself! Not inappropriate, I suppose!
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Your go Grahams! :bounce:
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Sorry for the delay Andys. Will dream summat up by tomorrow am.
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This should be easy - location in a major Dales cave:
"A rock and a hard place on the high road" (6, 3, 9)
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Scylla and Charybdis?
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That didn't last long. Over to you Andys.
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It was over two hours! Anyway, have a go at this one:
Banish every other blown-up bolt in Cumbrian cave. (6,3)
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Barbon Pot
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Spot on - Barbon Pot it it, so over to you Droid! :beer2:
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Text 'pate' and it sounds like you've got it!
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P8
Maj
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Got it, Dave.....lol
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Is it OK if I groan?
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Feel free......
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Cheers Droid, and I'm not even a young-un.
Okay, try this one.
When in a muddle, he felt sore.
Maj.
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Fester Hole.
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Otherwise known as Tween Twins?
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Yep that's the one.
Didn't think it would last long, since it's been in the caving news.
Maj.
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Yes - that did somewhat give it away.
It's a hell of a place for Andrex, though.
(4, 6)
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That's just got to be "Devils Arse", except for the letter counts being reversed"! :tease:
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Use the more polite name and the numbers come right...
Over to you, I suppose.
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I never was one for the polite reply! But here you go....
Comedy channel hosts small chili recipe. (6,4,4)
But I'm off for the weekend and whoever gets it correct can just carry right on!
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That would be Dismal Hill Cave
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Seems to fit.
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Yes, DAVE around (SMALL CHILI)* One of my favourite trips, too.
ok, I'd better set a new one:
"Laurel surrounds rustic losing his head over drugs cabinet"
3 words. No word-count to make it more interesting, but if no-one gets it I'll put it up later
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It's 5,4,7
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So I guess that's Stoke Lane Slocker?
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You guess right :clap2:
Back to you...
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Wrap a drink cocktail in the warmth? (10,3)
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(back over the net....)
Hardrawkin Pot
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Excellent return shot sir! Your go! :beer2:
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Thankyou...
"Only BA gear" (8,4)
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Meregill Hole?
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(back over the net....)
Hardrawkin Pot
Can't see that one :-[
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(back over the net....)
Hardrawkin Pot
Can't see that one :-[
Anagram (indicated by "cocktail") of "WRAP A DRINK" in "H....OT" (ie warmth).
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Meregill Hole?
Close.... but no cigar ;)
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Meregill Skit?
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Bingo ! :clap2:
Only = MERE
BA = Breathing Apparatus = GILLS
gear = KIT
ok, I don't suppose anyone ever goes down it, but it is in Northern Caves...
Your turn, Fulk
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:lol: :lol: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: , The BA=Gills had me baffled!! :beer2:
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Board's drinking vessel? (9, 3)
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Committee Pot?
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Yep, Committee Pot – just got back from there.
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(back over the net....)
Hardrawkin Pot
Can't see that one :-[
Anagram (indicated by "cocktail") of "WRAP A DRINK" in "H....OT" (ie warmth).
Skills
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Yep, Committee Pot – just got back from there.
Cheers Fulk.
A famous Dales limestone feature:
"Out then in in good health" (6, 3, 7, 4)
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This won't be right, but I've no better ideas, and at least it fits the letter count...
"Malham and Gordale Scar"
- no doubt someone can do better....
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Sorry Jasonc, that's not the one. Here's a couple of pointers:
It could be a generation thing. The location was well known when I was a lad and used to get a lot of mentions in Dales travel literature as a curiosity. Today, it doesn't get anything like the same amount of attention. It is on a main route through the Dales, now bypassed.
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(the) Ebbing and Flowing Well?
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That's it Fulk. Over to you.
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Pub game's writing material (4,4)
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Pool Sink perchance? He says from sunny(ish) Gran Canaria!
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Got it in one, andys.
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Bit short of inspiration (a.k.a. guidebooks!) here, but have a go at this one which I hope is the correct name & spelling!
"Got that, Captain! Apparently, Wes knits!" (5,4,4,4)
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Would that be Roger Kirk West Sink, by any chance ? :)
(there is only one Captain, obviously....)
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Indeed it is - over to you!
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"Leap year - no point demolishing Post Office Tower to start with" (8,3)
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Really? You need a clue? It's in NC3....
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Could it be Boundary Pot by any chance. Bound = leap, ary = no point (i.e. E) in year and no point (i.e. S) = Post.
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:clap2:
Indeed it is. Boundary was just as you said, Pot was just the first letters of Post Office Tower, but anyway - take it away dcrtuk ! :)
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How about this?
All mixed up North Eleanor hunted animals within typo too. (8, 6, 3)
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Could that be Llanelly Quarry Pot perchance?
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Could that be Llanelly Quarry Pot perchance?
That it is. Over to you.
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Way hay!
Have a go at this one then...
"Morse and Lewis arrange meeting with Professor of Theology to begin with." (14,3)
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Disappointment pot? :)
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Well that lasted all of 25 mins! And correct so over to you!
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Still – nice clue, andys!
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Yeah, a very satisfying one! It's surprisingly hard to think of good clues isn't it... :-\ how about:
"Irrational born before perennial plant" (8,3)
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I hope I've not stagnated it with too difficult a clue?!
To give you a hint a slight play on the clue would be: Greek irrational was born "perennial plant" (8,3)
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Washfold Pot
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Washfold Pot
Not washfold; that's about 200 miles too far North...
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Well I'm stuck! I'm sort of supposing that the "Greek irrational" is PI and "born" is B - but can't think of any cave name starting thus - though Mendip (for I am assuming that's the area) ain't that familiar! :doubt:
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Pinetree pot
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Pinetree pot
That's the one - it's all yours! ;D
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Well I'm stuck! I'm sort of supposing that the "Greek irrational" is PI and "born" is B - but can't think of any cave name starting thus - though Mendip (for I am assuming that's the area) ain't that familiar! :doubt:
Ah sorry, I managed to miss this post. You were very much on the right tracks; greek irrational was pi, born was "ne" (sorry, that's a bit of a tough one), and tree was the perennial plant :)
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Pinetree pot
That's the one - it's all yours! ;D
Wakey wakey Droid! :)
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Sorry Andy. I'm crap at clues. You or ari have a go....you are pretty good at them....lol
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Rock drop (6, 4)
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Cradle Hole?
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Nope, though it's actually a better clue if it was Cradle hole :(
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Clue improvement needed I fear.
Rock drop on posh kitchen (6,4)
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If this is Marble Sink we had it a few weeks ago!
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:clap2:
go for it Trogger
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Busy at moment ianball11 - so why don't you have another go?
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Because the last go was really worth it haha! Love to though, I can never guess them so it's only chances like these that I can sneak in!
Ok
Drab spouse portal (4 4 4)
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Grey Wife Hole?
Never got one before!
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Grey Wife Hole!!
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Noooooo - I get one and am beaten to it. Having evil thoughts of using Admin powers to cheat ;D
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haha, bad luck Pegasus :-) and well done Kevlar!
ib
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Sorry Pegasus!! Seconds in it too!
Try this:
Add the French to the man in black's rock cover, top in a roundabout way.
6,3
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Hurtle Pot?
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That'll be it.
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Cheers Kevlar. Try this -
"home for a useless mouse (3, 6)"
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The Mohole?
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That's it Andys in all of 7 minutes.
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"BOOM! Attacked! Vow they will be put to flight!" (11,4)
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Dowkerbottom Cave
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That's the one Bograt - over to you!
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Cheers :beer2:
A barman may fill one from the other.
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Pippikin Pot?
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Nice answer Roger but unfortunately incorrect, I'll leave it a few more goes before I make it too easy with the letter count.
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Tankard pot?
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Not Tankard.
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Could this be Littondale's Beer Can Pot?
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Close, but no cigar ---
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Bar Pot ?
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Not Bar.
Letters; 6, 3.
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Bottle Pot perhaps then?
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Barrel Pot (if there is any such place).
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andys has it :thumbsup: :beer2:
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Ta, so have a try at this one...
"Impudent person takes on Chapter members in the Dales." (8,3)
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Peterson Pot?
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Not Peterson....
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It would have been a good clue for Peterson ;D
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It would have been a good clue for Peterson ;D
.... take it you're not nuts about KP then! :)
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Well, with a cunning regular expression, I've found 16 Dales caves with a 8,3 wordcount, and I can't see that any of them fit the clue, so either
a) it's not in the Dales
b) it is, but it's really obscure
c) the wordplay is too clever for me
(it's probably c)
:-\
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Well, with a cunning regular expression, I've found 16 Dales caves with a 8,3 wordcount, and I can't see that any of them fit the clue, so either
a) it's not in the Dales
b) it is, but it's really obscure
c) the wordplay is too clever for me
(it's probably c)
:-\
Or... d) its not 8,3!
But it is!
Perhaps you've got gaps in your database? Or your regex is flawed?
'Cos its in NC1 and and is a 3-pitch grade III!
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Could it be Scrafton Pot?
Crafts - masonic chapters. Not sure about the rest.
BTW KP?
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I think that's the only one on my list that's in NC1, so I guess it must be.
We await enlightenment from Andy S .........
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I was thinking chapter members might be hells angels or possibly monks or ku klux klan. I think we need an explanation.
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Not Scrafton I'm afraid.
And clue time then - the "members" of "chapter" are its letters c, h, a... etc.
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Snatcher Pot?
Snot + Chapter
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Snatcher Pot?
Snot + Chapter
Bingo! Over to you! :beer2:
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Phew! That took tenacity to make another one!
(numbers later)
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Yockenthwaite Pot ?
- which I think is an anagram of 'Phew took tenacity' (nice !), but not sure where the rest of it comes in....
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I'm sure you have it Jason - I should jump in if Kevlar is still asleep! :)
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Seconded. Good anag Kevlar.
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ok - I'd almost forgotten about it.
Try this...
"Graduate's older woman - her weed"
I'll give the word count if no-one gets it, but I don't think it will last that long
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Robinson's Pot
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Yup, that's it :clap2:
under half an hour, thought it wouldn't take long!
Take it away, Harden...
PS. In case anyone was wondering, the reference is to Mrs Robinson in "The Graduate" starring Dustin Hoffman
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Ingredient for Beer Street's counterpart makes a wide gap. 7, 4
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Juniper Gulf?
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Yep,
as per Hogarth's Gin Lane
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Thanks HardenClimber3.
"Somewhere to breed cod?" (8, 4)
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Methinks we need a further clue grahams! :)
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For a moment I thought I'd forgotten the answer - I seem to remember that someone did that a few months ago.
Think fish families and Kingsdale.
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Turbary Pot?
Nope
I can't count!
Got to be Growling Hole?
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That's the one Ian.
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Growling?? Fish?? I don't get it.
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Grow ling ( a relative of the cod family)
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Thank you, Laurie.
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Great clue I think! It's blatant once you know the answer.
I'm concerned this will be wrong on cryptic crossword conventions, so forgive me if it is misleading.
Didn't let go of the burrow? (5, 4)
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'Eldon Hole ?
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:clap2:
I was concerned that it would be too difficult, but got it in one!
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Nothing wrong with that one Ian - good clue.
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Nothing wrong with that one Ian - good clue.
:)
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OK, pendant hat: Technically, I think there should have been some indication that there was an 'h' missing from the answer – say: 'e didn't let go ?
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OK, pendant hat: Technically, I think there should have been some indication that there was an 'h' missing from the answer – say: 'e didn't let go ?
Although Fulk is technically correct (especially from someone who does not know how to 'grow a Ling' ;D), this is a game of fun and not a crossword competition which requires Ximean conventions, I consider it a good clue :thumbsup:, over to you Trogger.
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OK, fair comment.
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Initially, and in no uncertain terms, certain Yorkshire academics are not welcome in this hole! 1.1.1.1. 3
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Looks like A, I, N. U. CYA.
(Just playing silly buggers now ---)
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ANUS Pot.....lol
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Sorry chaps - this is Cryptic Caves not Craptic ones!
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Foul pot?
Back to the previous clue, what does a question mark on a clue indicate? I thought it was something quirky as in slang or dialect?
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Back to the previous clue, what does a question mark on a clue indicate? I thought it was something quirky as in slang or dialect?
My take is that it means whatever the clue-setter meant it to mean - so it could be quirky or it could be just a plain old red herring! Punctuation is sometimes used to "break" a pair of words in, perhaps, an attempt to disguise their meaning. But, hey, we're no professionals and its really all just for fun, methinks! :)
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ianball11 almost has it - with a bit of adjustment to the punctuation...
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F.O.U.L Pot?
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Correct !! For anyone not in the know, it was based on a remark made to cavers from University of Leeds.
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Slice of Eric's Theen Sloper Ingleborough round trip ? (8 3)
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With some imagination :) ....... Hensler's Pot?
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That's it!
Slice of Erics is S
Then with 'then sloper' is an anagram, (indicated by round) which gives Eric's Ingleborough trip.
Helps if you put the right number of Es in the anagram though :-[
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Excellent! Have a go at this one then:
Hot Welsh girl and Al get hitched! (10,4)
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Swarthgill Hole?
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Indeed, grahams, that is correct so over to you!
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Thanks Andys. Here we go again:
"Pray badly in flatfish (7, 3)"
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Sounds like Turbary Pot
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Spot on Roger W. Fish n chips for you tonight.
Over to you.
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Oh, gosh, my brain's not working at the moment...
Reformed Welsh coinage
5
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All quiet... try a re-phrasing?
Doesn't need to be coinage - any sort of cash will do. So:
Welsh money re-arranged...
Still 5.
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OGOF ARIAN CAVE ?
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Sorry, no.
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Riana
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Sorry, no.
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Without much hope - Aggie?
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This one is gated, and has been for a few hundred years.
No good approaching CCC or even Mr Fellows - even Cadw can't get you in here.
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I think you've got us with this one Roger. Been interesting reading about Cadw but I for one need another hint.
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Castell Penfro...
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Wogan
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Yayy!
Over to you, Droid.
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Bagel. Not inexperienced and not yours!
4,4
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Bage Mine?
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Over to you, Graham....
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Could you explain why Wogan is correct, Roger?
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Could you explain why Wogan is correct, Roger?
Yes please. I don't get it either.
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Thanks Droid.
"Sounds like the sort of hole 'oudini might be tied up in (8, 3)"
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"Wonga" = money.
Reformed wonga = Wogan.
Wogan is a cavern under Pembroke Castle in Wales - therefore Welsh.
It was used as a storeroom and possibly as a boathouse, and has been gated since medieval times.
Access is via the castle, which is privately owned. Hence Cadw - who provide access to many of the castles of Wales - are unable to get you in.
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"Sounds like the sort of hole 'oudini might be tied up in (8, 3)"
Notts Pot ? (and you can't count....) :lol:
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Minihout dig? (Never heard of it, but it fits...)
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"Sounds like the sort of hole 'oudini might be tied up in (8, 3)"
Notts Pot ? (and you can't count....) :lol:
Interesting answer JasonC. I have been known to have brainfails when counting but this one's OK. Incorrect I'm afraid.
Clues - You're in the right bit of the Dales and it isn't an anag.
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Ah.. :idea:
- would it be Boundary Pot ? (bound 'arry) - very clever, even if no-one pronounces boundary like that!
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That's the one JasonC.
I've lived up and down the country over the years including Dorset and Yorkshire, so I have to admit that my pronunciation of some words might be a bit uncoventional. I seem to remember that in Lancs it's 'boundary' rather than 'boundry' but I might be wrong - haven't been for many years.
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No criticism intended - it was a good clue and I can imagine a Dorset rendition coming out as Bound-arry :)
Try this, not a great clue, but the best I can do in 5 mins...
"1500 in real deal, following 1001, before a hundred give greetings to Caesar" (8,4)
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That'd be Kirkdale Cave then. ----
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Indeed it would! Over to you, Bograt...
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No criticism intended - it was a good clue and I can imagine a Dorset rendition coming out as Bound-arry :)
Thanks for the comment and keep those clues coming :)
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Cheers Jason;
"Top honcho is running substandard trashy leads to this residence." (6, 5.)
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Jason
I kept looking at MD and MI. How did you arrive at KD and KI? I use things such as this a lot in exercises, so I'd like to know where it come from, so I can use it.
I had a lot of fun trying to make things like Mirmdale Cave. DOH.
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1000 can be represented by the Roman M, or the scientific K (Kilo ---).
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Just so. Cheating a bit to mix Roman numerals and K(ilo)=1000, but cruciverbalists will be familiar with Thou = K = M = Grand = G.
Then there's 100 = C = ton, and probably others I've forgotten...
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"Top honcho is running substandard trashy leads to this residence." (6, 5.)
Thirst House
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All yours Mark :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :beer2:
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Wakey wakey Mark! :)
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Sorry forgot
Stinking german soldier's, with disney character at junction.
(4-7)
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Ilam Risings?
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Ilam Risings?
Out of interest, how did you think that related to the clue? Or was it just the only cave with that word count ?
and no, I haven't any better ideas :)
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No not Ilam Risings
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Ilam Risings?
Out of interest, how did you think that related to the clue? Or was it just the only cave with that word count ?
and no, I haven't any better ideas :)
I started with the word count and then tried to "engineer" a fit to the clue! Its got "m...ing" in it, which could be "stinking", and "s...s" which could be "german soldiers", but "Disney character" and "junction" - not unsurprisingly - I couldn't work out! :wall:
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Not wishing to appear a pedantic prat, but does the word count 4-7 mean it's hyphenated? Or should it be 4,7 i.e. two individual words?
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4,7 - Two words
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SS for german soldiers is good Andy
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As it has the right letters and contains 'ss' but without much hope:
Lost Caverns (of Grassington Moor)?
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Nope
Clue - Mendip
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Well as far as I can make out, the onlt Mendip offerings with those letter counts are Bath Swallet, Pang Slocker and Slim Slocker. But I'll be b**ered if I can make any of those fit the clue. Unless the final word has been omitted (as was done recently with Thirst House Cave) in which cae Twin Titties would also fit. But I can't make that work either! :-\
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Final word is definitely included.
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Is there something missing from the clue – Stinking german soldier's ?what?
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Is there something missing from the clue – Stinking german soldier's ?what?
Or is it a feature rather than a whole cave perhaps? :-\
Or ss there a "Poo's Swallet" that ain't in the book? :-\
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Whole cave - Burrington
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Perchance is it meant to be Bos(s) Swallet with an errant extra S?
Stinking - BO
german soldier's - SS's
disney character - WALL-E
at junction - T junction
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Thats about the gist of it Spike,
I didn't really check the spelling, I entered it as Boss Swallet in my log book from the 70s
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New trouble, yarp? What a mix-up!
5,6,3
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Ubley Warren Pot?
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What's a yarp?
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What's a yarp?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yarp (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yarp)
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Ubley Warren Pot?
Bingo...
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Cheers Spike. Here's a quickie -
"Vamoose at 186,000mps (4, 4)"
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Is there a cave called 'Let's piss off at the speed of light'? Oh, sorry, it doesn't fit. (By the way, thank you Les for enlightening me as to the meaning of yarp.) (Mind you, the spell-checker didn't like it – tried to change it to harp.)
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Smoo Cave
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That's the one Spike - didn't think it would last long.
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Beyond the heart of England in the bounds of Oxford, I'm at home to George.
3,3
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Old Ing
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Aye...
Sent from my E5823 using Tapatalk
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Cheers Spike. Here's a quickie -
"Vamoose at 186,000mps (4, 4)"
Well, I’ve already been taken to task for nit-picking pedantry with regards to these clues, so I’m going to risk it again:
I was under the impression that if the clue is an anagram (as seems to be the case here), then there should be some indication of it.
But in the above clue there is no indication that it is an anagram.
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Cheers Spike. Here's a quickie -
"Vamoose at 186,000mps (4, 4)"
Well, I’ve already been taken to task for nit-picking pedantry with regards to these clues, so I’m going to risk it again:
I was under the impression that if the clue is an anagram (as seems to be the case here), then there should be some indication of it.
But in the above clue there is no indication that it is an anagram.
Hi Fulk. I have to admit, you've got me bang to rights. The clue should have been 'Vamoose at 186mps mangled' or similar. In this case I thought that the clue would have been too easy as you can see 'smoo' (a unique name) in 'vamoose'.
People are getting the right answers without too much extra help from the setters which would indicate that the clues are of good quality.
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People are getting the right answers without too much extra help from the setters which would indicate that the clues are of good quality.
Wholeheartedly agree - however frustrating, we do generally get there in the end!
But a real pedant - like me! :halo: - would also add that its better to avoid "clues to clues" too if we can. In grahams 's clue, we had first to decipher 186000mps to get "C" and THEN (i.e. a clue to a clue) include it in an anagram. But with a relatively small set of possible answers - and most of them having Pot, Cavern, Hole, Swallet, Cave etc etc as the final word - I don't think we should get too precious! :)
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OK, fair comments – I'll have to be more 'creative', perhaps? (or 'imaginative') – in my approach to these clues. :)
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Gold alloy measured by tailor's belongs to me
3,4,4.
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Could this be Dun Fell Mine?
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Nope.
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old gang mine
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Close, but no cigar.....
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Clue.
I'm a member of WMRG
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Old Gell Mine then perhaps? (But isn't it really Old Gell's Mine :unsure:)
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Old Gell Mine then perhaps? (But isn't it really Old Gell's Mine :unsure:)
That's why I didn't put it as an answer.
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Old Gell's Mine it is.
That's why there was an 's after tailor....
Andy and Mal can hash out who goes next.....lol
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Quicky then (I win!)
Streetlamps bop all over the place! (6,5,3)
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Marble Steps Pot?
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That's the badger: over to you!
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Thanks Andys.
"Rhode Island earthenware (10, 3)"
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Providence Pot?
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That didn't last long. Over to you Andys.
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Thankee, kindly. Try this
All round Captain has elevation followed by depression. (5,4,4)
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Time for a clue perhaps? Its in the Mendips.
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Still no takers?
Possibly time for another clue then - for "All round...." read "Circumnavigating..." ......
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cooks hill hole
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Hooray - over to you Bograt!
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So obvious when you see the answer grrr :lol:
Good clue :clap2:
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Agreed!
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So obvious when you see the answer grrr :lol:
Good clue :clap2:
Agreed!
Thankee kindly chaps! :bow:
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Cheers Andy :thumbsup: ;
Take home the French guzzunder. (6, 3)
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Nettle Pot?
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Well done that man :thumbsup:, Nettle Pot it is ;)
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I don't want to sound like a party pooper but there seems to be an extra 't' in the answer, or am I missing summat?
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I'm assuming nett as opposed to gross rather than net.
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I'm assuming nett as opposed to gross rather than net.
Quite right my man :) :) :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Here's one then...
"Pale red takes syringed red cocktail." (6,5,4)
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Priddy Green Sink?
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Thats the one Grahams - over to you!
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Priddy good anag there Andys.
"Good for skimming made by throwing (10, 3)"
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Flatstones Pot (SD713770) ?
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That's the one RogerW.
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Reportedly, public toilets were built in Hull to help fill this container.
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?,3 presumably?
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Aiyah! Forgot again! 4,3.
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Lose Pot?
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Nope.
A knowledge of the Yorkshire coast is useful for this one...
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Pretty sure it is Alum Pot, but I don't have time to sort out another clue so if I'm right then somebody else should have a go.
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It is indeed, Les.
Over to whoever...
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OK, try this;
'Endless Norman backs hotel danger, beware!' (6, 5, 4 )
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My cryptic mojo has left me, why Alum Pot. I get the pot bit.
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Alum was processed on the E. Yorkshire coast using human urine, presumably obtained from the nearest metropolis: Hull.....
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http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/yorkshire-coast/features/how-alum-shaped-the-yorkshire-coast (http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/yorkshire-coast/features/how-alum-shaped-the-yorkshire-coast)
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OK, try this;
'Endless Norman backs hotel danger, beware!' (6, 5, 4 )
Ibbeth Peril Cave
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That looks promising...
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Droid has it :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Have another go, Bograt.
That was a bloody excellent clue: I had the answer, then had to work out how it fitted.....lol
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Have another go, Bograt.
That was a bloody excellent clue: I had the answer, then had to work out how it fitted.....lol
Thanks Droid, glad you liked it ;), bear with, got to have a couple of coffees to get brain in gear ...
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O.K.;
'Babycham legend, about the 8th of May' (9, 4. )
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Perryfoot Cave
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All yours Yrammy :clap2: :clap2:
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Wake up yrammy, your go..
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OK. Just woken up. Sorting one out now
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Fish on corvid end, easing chicken pox.
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Pikedaw Calamine Cavern?
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Correct. It was too easy. Over to you!
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Defunct retail outlet round north with some part of Icelandic avens (5,4,4).
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Lante Shop Cave?
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Lante Shop Cave it is.
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Thanks Fulk.
"Change direction and confer a knighthood (4, 3)"
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Turn Dub?
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That's correct - lasted about 8 minutes.
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Higher extended butter-making session? (5,4,5)
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Upper Long Churn
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Yep . . . too easy, huh? Lasted about 10 minutes.
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What the bloke in Sherwood Forest said about his arrow? (6, 5, 4 )
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Robin's Shaft Mine?????
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:lol: :lol: :lol:, its all about wavelengths-- well done Fulk :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Cheers, bograt; how about:
Private school rabbit hole distantly encountered round southern boundary (12,6,4,7)
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Charterhouse Warren farm swallet?
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Couldn't really be much else, could it andy (given the letters)? :clap2:
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Beginning to open the door (8, 6, 3)
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Starting Handle Pot?
PS bograt – I didn't get your comment about wavelengths . . . care to elucidate?
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Yep, back to you, fulk :)
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Call oversight shattered this underground scenario.
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Short Gill Cave?
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Short Gill Cave it is.
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Starting Handle Pot?
PS bograt – I didn't get your comment about wavelengths . . . care to elucidate?
Just that we appear to think along the same lines, i.e. on the same wavelength.
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Cheers Fulk.
"Removing a second transforms an overheated marine gearbox into a hole in the ground (6, 5)"
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As there's no takers, I think the original clue is a bit too obscure. This change should make the original clue a bit clearer.
Sorry for messing people about.
"Removing a second transforms an illegal activity into a hole in the ground (6, 3)"
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And has the answer changed from (6,5) to (6,3) in the process? :-\
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That's correct Andys.
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Has "Moking Hurth" become "Moking Pot" perchance?
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It has Andys. Over to you.
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Ha - try this....
"Evolved ha? No! Lyon manufactured!" (5,6,4)
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Navvy Noodle Hole
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Indeed it is - over to you Mark!
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A top cream ale, shouldn't give you much of a head ache
(9-3)
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Paracetam Ole.
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Nice one Mat
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I'll pass the baton on to someone else as I'm useless at these
Mat
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Could be back to me then? So rty
"Vacate PR cock-up after just one season." (6,4,4)
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Spring Trap Cave?
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That's the one Fulk........
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How about:
The heavenly messenger’s waste-water disposal system? (3,6,9).
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The Angels Drainpipe?
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That's the one!
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Super - so try this though I'm away for the weekend so if it gets solved you'll have to either agree amongst yourselves or wait till Sunday evening!
"Force Tory reshuffle in attempt to cover the cracks." (9,4)
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Perryfoot Cave?
If I'm right (or not, as the case may be), here's one to keep the ball rolling:
District Commissioner, with the backing of Eva, surrounds beer and farm building (4,4,4).
(By the way, I liked your topical clue, andys.)
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Dale Head Barn?
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Nice try, ianball, but you need to work on it. ;D
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Dalebarn Cave
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Dale Barn Cave it is, so fight it out, ianball and bograt.
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Ianball did most of the work, over to you Ian....
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Apart from the fact I got it wrong haha! I'm not too proud to not accept the offer though :-)
Carl Clerck's moth in a hollow place in the ground (6, 8, 4)
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Mother Shipton's Cave?
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:clap2:
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Tall wet prince tells all – explosive! (6,8,7)
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Little Cranwell Pallets ?
when you've finished laughing - why on Earth was Ian's Mother Shipton's ? (and I'm not even sure if it qualifies as a cave!!)
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More likely to be 'Little Crapnell Swallet', Same as you, I hold no hope but baffled by the previous answer ( and I thought it was a 'parlour' anyway---), -- must be 'wavelengths'--- :lol: :lol:
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Ho hum, I Googled 'Carl Clerck's moth' and it came up with the fact that an 18th century entomologist called Carl Clerck had named a particular moth as Mother Shipton's Moth. Hence MS's cave.
And it is Little Crapnell Swallet – nice try, but hard luck Jason . . . are you coming to the Copper Mines on Sunday?
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I got the 'little --- swallet' , jasonc just allowed me to tidy up the rest of the anagram---- over to you Jason...
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Fulk: alas, no
Bograt: Well, an undeserved offer, but I won't turn it down...
Very soft fur wrapped in lettuce after scam is hundred (8,11)
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Coniston Coppermines I'd say?
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What a loverly clue :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Trogger: you'd say rightly - over to you :thumbsup:
Bograt: why thank you!
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Jason – so you'd rather faff around inventing clues for the Copper Mines instead of visiting them for real? :tease:
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OK. This one shouldn't last long: Childish item with watery sound, found in Dales Cave.
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Toyland?
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No, sorry my fault, forgot to add numbers. Clue should have read: "Childish item with watery sound, found in Dales Cave" (6,3,7).
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Gi'us a clue, Trogger; is it a feature in a cave rather than the name of a cave?
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It's a feature in a cave - a mined section in fact.
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OK. This one shouldn't last long:
:(
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Rattle and Sploosh
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I like it, bograt :clap2: :clap2:
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Just waiting for an aye or nay from Trogger---
BTW, remember hearing about it, but where is it?? :-[
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Spot on bograt - all yours now! It's in Dow Cave beyond Hobson's Choice, and was surveyed by the CPC.
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Well, well, I thought you'd made it up, bograt!!
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Cheers Trogger;
Modern and Neanderthal residences at the oasis?. (6, 5, 4)
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Thirst House Cave?
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Well done grahams, over to you..
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Cheers Bograt.
"A big hole found under seat j1 for example (6, 3)"
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Pewter pot?
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Rowten pot.
( Just got it, seat j---, row ten :wall: :wall:)
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Bump for grahams, is this the correct answer?
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Sorry for the delay Bograt.
Yes that's the place.
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Thanks graham;
Praise the script! complete without the heading. (8,4)
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Have we hit another hiatus?, do you want a clue?
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I do!
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OK, lets narrow it down, not NC, not COPD...
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Avelines Hole?
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That's the one crickleymal :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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OK I'm sure this won't last long
Parched, not completely after half take a short look (4,2,6)
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Hint needed?
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Mainly because it fits the letter count: Ogof yr Esgyrn.
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Nope, it's a feature.
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Hall of thirty?.
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That's the badger. Over to you.
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Cheers Malc. ;
No mist reversed investigation in skill. (4, 2, 6)
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Mainly because it fits the letter count: Ogof yr Esgyrn. ;D :ang:
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Mainly because it fits the letter count: Ogof yr Esgyrn. ;D :ang:
:lol:, Close, but no cigar :lol:......
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I thought Crickleymal might throw us a bone if I made a stab at the answer.
Gotta say I'm impressed by your crosswording skills Bograt - would never have found that answer myself.
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I thought Crickleymal might throw us a bone if I made a stab at the answer.
Gotta say I'm impressed by your crosswording skills Bograt - would never have found that answer myself.
Thanks for that Graham, have a stab at the new one-----
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Ogof ap Robert, methinks... which I'd never heard of until I looked at http://www.ogof.org.uk/ (http://www.ogof.org.uk/) :thumbsup:
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Go For it JasonC, all yours :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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D ;D
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Dalehead??
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Or Deathshead (as in Pratchett)?
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Death's Head was what I had in mind, though I realise I was being a bit cheeky in not giving the letter count.
So Dale Head would also fit the bill...
Well done to both of you, Bograt and Graham - take it away, whoever gets in first :)
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Go for it graham :thumbsup:
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Thanks, although Bograt did a lot of the work there.
As we're into slightly unusual clues, here's one for a well
trodden Dales cave feature:
"As the manager of the Performance sits before the curtain on the
boards and looks into the Fair, a feeling of profound melancholy
comes over him in his survey of the bustling place. There is a great
quantity of eating and drinking, making love and jilting, laughing ..... " (10, 7)
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Thackeray's Passage?
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That's it Fulk. Over to you.
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Retail a nocturnal excursion? – well, that's what it sounds like! (8,7) [A feature in a cave).
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Selenite Passage?
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Yep; too easy huh?
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Cheers Fulk - good wordplay.
Here's aother:
Inside every smarty-boot per'aps there's a (8, 4)
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Apparently there is some caving event happening during the next week ?? there may be some delay to responses -----
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Apparently there is some caving event happening during the next week ?? there may be some delay to responses -----
Meanwhile, here's a pointer to the answer - it's one of those irritating punning homophones for which I apologise.
The handle for the clue is the content of one's boot.
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Stinking foot?
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Hunter's Hole ? (Hunter Sole :unsure:)
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Hunter's Hole is a great answer but doesn't quite fit with the clue. Stinking Foot also has something going for it, though I've never heard of the place.
To narrow it down a bit, we're in the Dales.
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Stinking Foot also has something going for it, though I've never heard of the place.
I made it up to fit with the clue and the hint.
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The next time I discover a cave, I will name it Stinking Foot :D
- and I can't quite explain how I thought 'Hunters' had 8 letters :thumbsdown:
Nearest I can get in the Dales is Hangman's Hole, but that doesn't work either....
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Footnaw's Hole?
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Hmm, I think "smarty" may be significant??
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Footnaw's Hole?
That's the one Inferus. :clap2:
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The next time I discover a cave, I will name it Stinking Foot :D
That could be my caving legacy :clap2:
OK I get the foot and the hole parts of the answer, but where does the naws come from?
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The next time I discover a cave, I will name it Stinking Foot :D
That could be my caving legacy :clap2:
OK I get the foot and the hole parts of the answer, but where does the naws come from?
Inside every smarty-boot per'aps there's a - explanation.
'Smarty-boot' is slang for know-all - similar to 'clever clogs'. 'per'aps' implies unsounded 'h'.
Footnaws Hole is homophone of 'foot knows all'.
Sorry for the dodgy clue - I'm off to crawl away down the nearest hole.
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Footnaws Hole is homophone of 'foot knows all'.
is it ? knows fook all ....
(sorry :))
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Having seen the explanation I kind of understand it, although previous replies with foot and "..s hole" coupled with in the Dales gave me enough clues to think of Footnaws.. I was actually thinking Foot na Sole spoke in some random dialect. I'm not great at creating clues so I'm more than happy to throw it open - first come first served and all that :)
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Here's an easy one then, to keep things going...
Make love to a small aperture on Mendip (6,4).
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Wookey Hole :clap2:
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That's the one, Jason! Over to you.
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Make love? Isn't that Nooky Hole?
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Woo = make love like an owl...
anyway, try this:
Working giant in place of trouble (5,4)
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Dunno, give us a clue.
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it's in NC1, if that's any help...
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ok then, think about where there's always trooble, oop north....
(didn't think it would be this hard!)
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I seem to have killed this thread, so here's the answer: MONGO GILL
Place of trouble is MILL (as in "trouble at t'mill"), which contains ON ('working') and GOG ('giant', as in Gog and Magog)
The floor is open to anyone else who wants a go ...
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Got the 'mill' bit, considered the 'gog' bit, totally missed the 'on' bit.
Nice clue, Jason.....
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Yeah, got the mill bit; I was thinking on the lines of Ringle Mill, though.
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Here's one to keep the ball rolling:
Around mast in Reeth for a feature in the Easegill System (3,8)
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The Minarets
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Spot on, Droid :clap2:
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Wakey wakey Droid
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Aaaargh.....done it again.
You have a go, Mal. My brain is fried.
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Oh bugger. Ummmm
Remote veining would be problematic here. 6,3,4
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Geevor Tin Mine?
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Yes, obviously too simple.
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What about:
Wrath near ferocious caving suit in international nuclear research facility (5, 4, 6)
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Ireby Fell Cavern.
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Bugger; that didn't last long!!
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Have another go, mate....
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OK:
Organize street lamp mantle after loss of the French for this cave feature (8,6)
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Tratman's Temple
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Hooray – moved on from Droid :tease:
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Confused, he depart tasting food (4, 9, 6)
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Ogof Tarddiant Hepste?
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That's it!
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OK – an easy one:
Fond of funny dog around this cave (4,7,3)
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That'll be Ogof Ffynnon Ddu
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It certainly is.
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Disturbed great vein can be found in recent answer. (5, 4)
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Tiger Aven?
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That's correct. Your turn I believe.
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Try this then:
Pound held Carls at sixes and sevens." (9,4)
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Sorry guys - you won't get that 'cos I've just spotted a typo! It should read:
"Pound held Carrs at sixes and sevens." (9,4).
Sorry 'bout that! :spank:
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Time for a further clue perchance? Its in Mendip!
And if no-one gets it today then you can decide amongst yourselves 'cos I'm off and out of touch for a fortnight!
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If it is Mendip, it can be Drunkards Hole, Reservoir Hole or Hillwithy/Withyhill.
I can get any of those to fit the clue.
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I think that you should keep the ball rolling and give us a clue, Elaine.
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If it is Mendip, it can be Drunkards Hole, Reservoir Hole or Hillwithy/Withyhill.
I can get any of those to fit the clue.
You're doing better than me. How do those fit?
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They are the only ones I could think of that fitted the 9, 4,
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And if no-one gets it today then you can decide amongst yourselves
So here goes:
Satan's lacking left orifice, came round with vines (5,4,4,5)
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Devis Hole Mine Caves - I'd say.
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Spot on, Trogger
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"Pound held Carrs at sixes and sevens." (9,4).
Time for a further clue perchance? Its in Mendip!
And if no-one gets it today then you can decide amongst yourselves 'cos I'm off and out of touch for a fortnight!
'Twas Quiddlers Arch....... but carry on anyway Trogger!
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good clue :clap2:
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An article definitely behind and beloved by the surfer (but not by most other folk) (3,11)
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Five days and no suggestions? Thought it was fairly easy - the clue that is! - it's an awkward contortion.
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Although not uncommon, Ive no idea.
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I'm pretty confident the first word is THE, and would hazard a guess the second ends in TUBE, if that helps anyone....
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The Bigwavecave.
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Ah-ha - the definite article is indeed correct... 3 down, 11 to go!
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The ????breaker . . .
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The Arsebreaker?
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Doesn't quite fit the clue but - the Backbreaker, Bye George Pot?
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Quite right grahams, over to you! The Backbreaker in Bye George, an offshoot of Pippikin. Thought the clue was OK: An article definitely (ie definite article) = THE; behind = BACK; and beloved by the surfer = BREAKER. Then later mention of a contortion and not loved by most folk. Simpler clue than many I've seen!
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Well, Trogger, I suspect that the reason it took so long for your clue to be cracked has nothing to do with the 'quality' of the clue, but rather to the fact that the answer wasn't a (well-know) cave but a somewhat obscure section of a cave that's not exactly a bog-standard tourist trip.
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Fulk: Obscure? Just wait for the new NC3! Bye George has been around for over 20 years and has its own entrance. Pete Hall wrote a detailed account in Caves and Caving, Spring 1996. Mistral to Cigalere is a popular trip as far as the Grand Cascade. It starts above this waterfall and emerges onto the fellside via some (admittedly) non-bog-standard caving, including The Backbreaker squeeze.
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Quite right grahams, over to you! The Backbreaker in Bye George, an offshoot of Pippikin. Thought the clue was OK: An article definitely (ie definite article) = THE; behind = BACK; and beloved by the surfer = BREAKER. Then later mention of a contortion and not loved by most folk. Simpler clue than many I've seen!
Ah I see. Good clue Trogger though I had a lot of help getting the answer.
This should be a quickie:
"Burn carts for a pleasant trip (9, 4)"
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Bruntscar Cave
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I didn't say 'obscure cave' but
obscure section of a cave
.
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That's the one Steviet. Over to you.
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OK - try this
It was an understandably wasteful year said Lord Cyan's wife but take a deep breath and dream (4,5,10,7)
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Lady Blue's Underwater Fantasy?
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Indeed (you probably could have guessed it by the numbers alone!)
Over to you Fulk...
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Article followed by morsels of bread trapping French article leads to this cave (3,8).
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Got to be "The Crumbles"?
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It certainly has, andys.
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Cheers. Have a go at this one then.....
"No ban upon a quarterly production." (5,5,6,3)
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Blaen Onneu Quarry Pot?
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Thats it in one Graham - over to you...
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Cheers Andys - impressive 19 letter anag.
Here's another:
"Recycles exhaust gas after a bad party (7, 3)"
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That sounds as if it could be Turbary Pot
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Cheers Andys - impressive 19 letter anag.
pah ... 26 is the one to beat :smartass: ;D
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That sounds as if it could be Turbary Pot
It is indeed Roger. Over to you.
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I really wish you would post your workings. I do not understand how you so easily solve these.
Recycles exhaust gas - I would have thought that was a catalyic converter, so cat
A bad party - flop? so catflop and as its after then post which would put after the flop
So I would come up with Floppostcat pot. How the heck did you get Turbury?
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Turbochargers (usually shortened to turbo) work by using an engine's exhaust gas to force more air/fuel into the combustion chamber i.e. the exhaust gas is recycled. The rest of the clue is an anagram of 'party' as indicated by the word 'bad'.
Cats convert most of the nasties in exhaust gas to less harmful compounds but do not recycle the gas for extra power as does a turbo.
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Sometimes I think composing these things can be harder than solving them... See if this works:
Hen racing? Nowt to do with that! But which pullet has the best foot all twisted up? (4 3 2 3 7)
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Bull Pot of the Witches? Mainly because it fits the letter count.
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BPotW = which pullet best foot
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That didn't last long!
Crickleymal has proved that he knows his caves and can count, but Andy has identified the anagram. :smartass:
Over to whoever.. :)
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OK try this
Shoveller has flair and online security around the south. 5,4,7
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Thrupe Lane Swallet?
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Or maybe Stoke Lane Swallet?
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Last try - Stoke Lane Slocker. I was getting my e-wallets and e-lockers mixed up.
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Last try - Stoke Lane Slocker. I was getting my e-wallets and e-lockers mixed up.
That's it.
Shoveller =stoker, flair =elan and online security = e lock around S for south.
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For the lengthy anagram lovers,
Beer merchant threatening beach, scramble to Welsh cave feature (3,3,7,4,3,8)
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The Big Chamber near the Entrance
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That's it - maybe the easier ones are longer if the word count is given.
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Alien follows extensive forest, southern boundary, to this Mendip cave (8, 7).
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Longwood Swallet?
Long Wood, S(outh) Wall ET?
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Yep, Kevlar, Longwood Swallet it is.
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According to legend we'd find this one either in the rock or underwater.
(9)
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Excalibur
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Too easy! :D
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Hotter hound trips around right in this Mendip cave route (3,5,5,4)
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The Short Round Trip.
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The Short Round Trip, indeed!
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Confounded entrapment with entire male deer and bird. Here be caves. (10, 11)
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Llangattock Escarpment? (but ain't that 11,10 not 10,11?)
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Oops sorry - got the numbers the wrong way round. You are correct.
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:spank:
However....
"Snap my light in kneeling position 'cos I can only get in here when its dry. (9,4,4,4)
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Penyghent Gill Main Sink ?
I'd never heard of this, but I found a survey for it on Cave Maps... aren't crosswords educational?
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That's the one Jason so over to you - and, yes, they are educational!
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"Caddish belly, reportedly"
Letter count to be provided if no takers....
PS Nice anagram, Andy btw :)
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Boundary Pot?
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Groan.
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Boundary Pot?
That's the one, Graham :thumbsup:
Fulk: I thought it was quite good actually....
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Thanks JasonC. It was a groaner and a good clue. Here's another:
"Dane needs a WC for an occasional outpouring (6, 5)"
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To keep this going here's a bit of help and a modification to the original clue:
"Dane needs WC for an occasional outpouring (6, 5)"
Yorkshire Dales' feature of considerable speleological significance.
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Cawden Burst
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Cawden Burst it is. Over to you Inferus.
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Bah, should refrain from guessing as it means creating a clue! Hope this works...
Perhaps in pain because of this digit, which requires a vessel. (6, 6, 3)
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I know what you mean. Anyway, more pain:
Broken Finger Pot?
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That's the one...back to you grahams..
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What's the Cawden Burst?
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What's the Cawden Burst?
If I've got it right, its a sporadic flood rising near Malham - thought to "burst" into action when the water sinking in the Watlowes Valley overruns its normal sinks. But I'm sure someone will correct me!
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Thank you, andys.
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What's the Cawden Burst?
If I've got it right, its a sporadic flood rising near Malham - thought to "burst" into action when the water sinking in the Watlowes Valley overruns its normal sinks. But I'm sure someone will correct me!
That's right Andys. Cawden Burst issues a spectacular amount of water in wet weather from a scree slope just above the Malham - Gordale road. Mining through the scree would be needed to get at the resurgence, which has huge potential. Ref. Ch 25 Caves and Karst of the Yorkshire Dales.
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Thanks Inferus. Here's another:
"Lighthouses in Lancaster? (3, 8)"
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The Minarets???
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That didn't last long. It's yours Fulk.
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Explosive 'do' in the Dales (7,5)
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We'll, a day's gone by with only a deathly hush; is everybody out caving?
Anyway, here's a clue to the clue: What goes bang in NC 1?
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Not sure how "do" fits but Grenade Shaft?
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Correct, grahams; 'do' as in 'do someone over', hence 'shaft'!
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Ah, very good.
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Final resting place of the butterwoman's horse? (4, 6, 3)
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Dead Dobbin Pot?
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That's not a cave though is it, its only part of a cave and is called the dead bobbin series?
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Looks like a cave according to Cavemaps.org
http://cavemaps.org/cavePages/Leck%20Fell__Dead%20Dobbin%20Pot.htm (http://cavemaps.org/cavePages/Leck%20Fell__Dead%20Dobbin%20Pot.htm)
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It's a hole in its own right (see NC 3 / p. 90).
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"For Friday last lean Dobbin went to pot" - a terrible poem, worthy of the great William McGonagall (though it's by Francis Fawkes).
Over to you Fulk.
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Shy dandy calls one crab out to guard the depths (6, 3, 9) (And it's not the name of a cave, so there Alex :tease:)
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Scylla and Charybdis?
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Quick as a flash, andys, you got it.
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Wonderful, so try this 'un.....
"Grohl and Cameron both take on evil scheme I concocted." (5,4,4,5)
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Devis Hole Mine Caves?
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Here's the clue I posted about a month ago to the same cave (assuming the answer is correct):
Satan's lacking left orifice, came round with vines (5,4,4,5)
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Yes Devis it is - and apologies for the "repeat", I must have missed the last one whilst over in Spain!
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No problem (or implied criticism) – I was merely pointing out how different are two clues to the same place!
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Thanks Andys.
"Show killing leads to Hanging Death (7, 4)"
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Obvious... Howkins Gill :)
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Sorry JasonC but no.
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So close I suspect! How about Howgill Sink?
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That's the one Andys.
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Here's one then:
"Smack, for example, woven lilac vest without any pity." (5,4,5)
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Time for a further clue then perhaps?
They're in Northern Caves but off the beaten track.
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Not sure why but Lover Gill Caves?
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Or Dover Gill Caves... don't know why either!
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Both close - but no cigar!
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I'll try Skell Gill Caves, but no idea how it works, if it's right...
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Nope! Still no cigar! And wrong volume!
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Trudge Gill Caves?
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Never heard of 'em - and its (5,4,5)!
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"Smack, for example, woven lilac vest without any pity." (5,4,5)
Lower Kirk Caves?
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My thinking goes along these lines.
Smack is a kick
woven is anagram indicator for woven lilac vest, and also indicates the 'smack' is in the middle of the answer. without any pity drops nil and t
W O V E N L I L A C V E S T
L O W E r kirk C A V E S
I'm ignoring the 'c' of kick being an 'r' in Kirk and no 'r' in 'woven lilac vest' for Lower
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Slape Gill Caves?
I arrived at that by this logic:
Smack = slap
Example = eg
Lilac vest (woven=anag) = ill caves (minus t, which I couldn't work out, something to do with pity..)
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Slape Gill is the one!
You're quite correct with the first three bits ("Smack" = S L A P, "for example" = E G, "lilac" becomes I L L C A) and the last bit is the letters of V E S T, but minus the T 'cos that's in "pity".
Well done and over to you...... :)
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Ahh, cheers, I'll get my head round it all one day!
This possibly won't last long:
Miserable and mixed up internet scabbard has no memory card. (8, 6, 8 )
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Got to love a trier :(
Good clue Andys!
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Wretched Rabbit Entrance?
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I much prefer the challenge of working out than creating my own - I said it wouldn't last long, so it's back to you andys.... :)
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Try this one then..........
Much of the North esteems our synthetic fudge! (5, 8, 6)
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Three Counties System?
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Good anagram :thumbsup:
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Spot on - over to you Graham.....
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Thanks Andys.
"Are we in Yorkshire yet? I want to go underground. (9, 4, 4)"
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Time for a clue - CaKotYD Chapter 22.
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Yorkshire Yeti Cave.
Not got the book/pdf to hand to check though..if it is then throw it open..
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That's it Inferus - hidden word clue. Over to you.
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....... then throw it open..
Methinks Inferus is meaning ...... anyone else want a go at crafting and posting a clue?
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Tub after North of King's Lynn bend (8,3)
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Washfold Pot?
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:clap2:
Ace, although it's nice for a clue to be a bit difficult, it's better than it needs no clues or explanantion haha!
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Well lets see how this one goes then.....
"Makes legs work at tor in Derbyshire." (7,6)
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Walkers Grotto
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Bingo! The stage is yours...
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Mendip butcher calls the wurst t'best.
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St Cuthberts Swallet?
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Quite right - I thought it would be too easy if I gave the letter count. Carry on . . .
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"My place - its not so far, and sounds like it's complete!" (4,5,4)
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"My place - its not so far, and sounds like it's complete!" (4,5,4)
At a guess Home Close Hole?
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That's the one :) - over to you!
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Where Mr Lennon might keep his stew.
I'll give the word length if it proves to be less than obvious
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Illusion Pot
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Nope
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Lost John's Pot would seem to fit, except that it's Lost John's Cave I believe...
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Nope. the letter count is 6,3
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Quarry Pot?
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Nope. Caves of North Wales
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Scouse Pot?
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That's the one.
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Excellent! Have a go at this one....
"Back every other stroppy set at round." (5,3)
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Notts Pot
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That's the one so back to you Malc............
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Reforge pony reforge. 4,3,4
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Ogof Pen Eryr
- I wouldn't have known these were even words, let alone a cave, but apparently it is: http://www.ogof.org.uk/ogof-pen-eryr.html (http://www.ogof.org.uk/ogof-pen-eryr.html) :)
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Over to you
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"Around winter in Paris, it's bad for roses" (5,6,3)
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Black Shiver Pot?
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:clap2: that's the one! - take it away, Fulk!
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Swan with unknown Belgian town to get it in the hole (9,3)
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Penyghent Pot
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Penyghent Pot it is, crickleymal.
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Ok try this
Lenin's home rented containing the French going there and back around four cardinals.
8,4,7
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Redhouse Lane Swallet (a fine clue, by the way . . . the 4 cardinals really threw me for a bit, and I had trouble trying to fit Gorki (Mansion) in).
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Well done. I thought it would last longer than that.
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Thank you (Lenin's home – Redhouse . . . a bit cheeky, huh?). :) Try this:
Object with canine entrance seen in a Yorkshire pot (3,4,5,4)
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The Dog's Front Door?
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That's right, grahams; I did wonder about this, as it doesn't appear in the description in NC 2 – you'd have to have read Underground Adventure to get it.
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Thanks Fulk. I couldn't remember where I'd seen the phrase. For some reason I thought it referred to the connecting crawl to the Birks Fell 70's extensions but of course it's the great UA.
Here's another:
"Another 4 inches and this could have been called LP (6, 5, 3)"
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In case anyone’s wondering the ‘The Dog’s Front Door’ refers to the start of the crawl below the second pitch in Little Hull Pot, where the original explores declared that the crawl ‘was like a dog’s front door, but half full of water’.
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Time for a clue - it's an EP which would have been an LP, given a bit more depth.
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I was trying to think along the lines of EPs and LPs, and given that an LP was 12 inches in diameter, all I could come up with was 'Eight Inch Pot' (which neither fits nor exists!).
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Think speed of rotation and PU.
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Well, 'Thirty three rpm' fits ;D
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Near - Mr. Thornber will help.
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Thirty Three Pot?
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That's so close Crickleymal that it's hard to think of another hint but to move things along - we're in Kingsdale.
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Ha! Double Three Pot then?
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That's the one Andys, the only cave the I know of that is named after its depth.
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Have a go at this then....
"Rigged tackle in, e.g., rectum!" (5,7,4)
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Wot, not guesses! Further clue then - its in Derbyshire.
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Is it a mine?
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Is it a mine?
Yes, with some natural. But it has an alternative name which is the one more generally used nowadays - though this clue is to the name used in COD.
though
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Great Ectluck Mine?
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Oh so close! But no cigar.....
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Great Cucklet Mine (aka nickergrove)?
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That's the one Graham - over to you. :)
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Great Cucklet Mine?
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Funny - Grahams' answer and your reply didn't show up until I'd jumped in... that's what comes of routing your internet via China, I suppose. :(
Ah well - saves me having to rack my brains thinking up another clue of the required standard. :)
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I had no idea what the answer was but by a process of anagramming I arrive at Great Clucket Mine, not a million miles out.
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Funny - Grahams' answer and your reply didn't show up until I'd jumped in... that's what comes of routing your internet via China, I suppose. :(
Ah well - saves me having to rack my brains thinking up another clue of the required standard. :)
I'm currently routed via the Netherlands.
Any road, try this:
"LA champ changes and gets to the sump (7, 7, 3)"
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Hint - solve the 7 letter anagram - the rest is easy.
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Funnily enough, I tried to anagramize (is that a word?) LA champ, but didn't get it . . . then the penny dropped:
Clapham Bottoms Pot
(PS – nice clue)
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How I missed that anagram beggars belief - I even live in Clapham!
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Cheers Andys. Over to you.
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or Fulk, huh?
Anyway, here's an easy one:
A posh place to wash the dishes?
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Marble Sink?
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Sorry Fulk - I have my daft head on today.
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Correct, andys.
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Way hey! Try this one then...
"Old article about orange and calvados cocktail without Angelo." (6,4)
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Looks as if it could be Yordas Cave.
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8 mins - an excellent effort so over to you Roger!
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Good clue neatly contrived, that was. :)
Now...
Sounds like a quick look to watch out for the Senior Service (4, 6)
See if that manages to last out for 8 minutes!
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Peak Cavern
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Pah - beat me to it.
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By a minute and a half by the looks of it, Grahams! :lol:
Over to you, Crickleymal!
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Bugger, free for all mixed up. 7,6
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Gouffre Berger
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It's all yours.
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Lengthy underground complex causes the teen scouts misery (5, 8, 6)
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Three Counties System
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2 minutes - that's impressive. Carry on . . .
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Disorderly Glyn’s pony floats without steamship. (4, 4, 1, 4)
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Ogof Pant Y Llyn?
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Yeah.
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Have a go at this then..
"Named vertical stage skews awkwardly." (4,9,6,4)
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West Kingsdale Master Cave.
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That's the one Andy - over to you!
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Try this little one -
Go backwards, not on Teutonic interjection (4, 4).
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Ogof Fach? (Is there one?)
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Ogof Fach it is. That's the old (correct) name for what is commonly called Ogof Fechan. The name was changed around 1970, under the mistaken impression that Fechan was the feminine form of Fach!
Over to you, Andy S.
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You learn something every day with this don't you? Anyway, have a go at....
"Ethnics resonate wildly in Munster" (2,10,3)
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Further clue then?...
Self awareness is the way forward!
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Well, it's St Catherines One, but I thought I'd give someone else a chance . . .
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Sure is - over to you...
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The forest sprite makes an alternate entrance (12,3)
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Ha! Good un' - Fisherstreet Pot?
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You got it!
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Try this one then..
"Vicious kids pit laws about property rental." (6,7)
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..... its in Mendip!
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Sidcot Swallet?
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That's the one grahams - apologies for the delay!
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Thanks Andys.
Here's another -
Steels back after poor gravity (6,4, cave)
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Sleets gill?
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That didn't last long. It's yours Roger.
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It can take longer to think'em up than to solve 'em!
Try:
Virginian analgesic loses easterly aspect (4, 4)
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Odin Cave?
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Got it, Andys!
Codeine was the stuff to ease the pain...
Over to you.
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Here's another then.....
"Untidy coves use Whitewalls!" (6,5,7)
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I think this must be Swevic House Swallet, of which I regret to say I have spent my entire life in ignorance!
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Spot on Jason - over to you. (And I don't know anything about the place either!)
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ok, try this - letter count will follow if no-one gets it in about 15 minutes....
Burrow of the Oomagooli bird ?
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Knacker Trapper hole
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Yes indeed ! :thumbsup:
I know it doesn't really work as a clue, and it's basically a terrible old joke, but I'd got bored with the anagrams...
Take it away, Harden
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Pinch THC
4,3
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Nick Pot?
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:)
That's the one.
Obviously too easy!
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Ta. Here's another -
Ask about commanding officers for the hole (6, 4)
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Scoska cave?
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That's the one Droid.
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Have another go then, Graham. Brain is fried at the moment.....lol
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I know that feeling. As I have nothing at present, the foor is open.
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OK, here's an easy one to keep the ball rolling:
Old man is feeling good? (5,4)
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Moses Well?
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Yes andys, Moses Well it is.
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Right then, have a go at this... shouldn't take long!
"Revealed - Aviva gang secrets!" (6,5,5)
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Giant's Grave Caves ?
Another one that's new to me!
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Indeed Jasonc - at the top end of Penyghent Gill. Over to you......
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Boat fastener's little girl-friend is a pretty feature (8,7)
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Painter's Pallete?
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Too easy huh?
Well done Graham, take it away :)
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Luck rather than skill on my part, For some reason, out of all the thousands of UK's cave features, Painter's Pallete popped straight into my head.
Here's another -
"The descent of this might bring you face-to-face with bloodthirsty creatures (7, 4)"
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At a complete guess Vampire Cave or Vampire Hole?
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Slightly more subtle than that - this Dales cave is well known but little visited.
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Slasher Hole?
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Good answer but not correct I'm afraid. It's hard to give a further clue wthout giving it away but think literary refs., of which there are two.
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OK, another clue - The Descent
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All I can come up with is Crawleyside Pot - but the letters don't fit and its not exactly a "well known Dales cave"! :-\
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I think everyone is focussed on the bloodthirsty creatures. The literary refs to Descent (both the film and the current issue of the magazine) is the key.
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Boreham Cave? As in the film being a total bore!
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That's right :clap2: though for the wrong reason. The cave the girls were supposed to descend in the film was called Boreham Cave (one of those little thihgs that I seem to notice and retain in my weird head). Also, Boreham features in this month's Descent magazine. I thought the two refs made for a neat clue.
On second thoughts, you're quite right - The Descent was boring. I'll get me coat.
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Ha! Good 'un. So see what you make of this....
"Lake district lake with a small amount of water - its a bit of a joke!" (7,4)
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Assuming the letter count is 8, 4, Meregill Skit ?
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That's it - spot on despite my giving the wrong letter counts! :spank:
Over to you......
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Extended family on the map at 3 o'clock?
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Got to be Long Kin East surely?
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Thats the one. Back to you.
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Here's another then...
"Crazy CE, however, ate cat!" (11,4)
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Extended family on the map at 3 o'clock?
I like that one.
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Weathercote Cave?
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Weathercote it is - over to you....
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I'll give it a go - never written a cryptic clue before, I'll see if I can get the difficulty right!
"Become prostrate beside a bard without energy" (3-2,3)
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Well, A_Northerner, I think you've cracked the cryptic bit; all I've got to do now is solve it!
(I like your 'bard without energy' for a new take on an old theme.)
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Lay-by Pot?
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Good clue ANortherner.
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Lay-by Pot?
Correct! Over to yourself.
Good clue ANortherner.
Thanks very much grahams, I quite enjoyed it - hope I get another go!
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Note backward bog with beam and a funny side for a passage in a Dales cave.
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Sorry – forgot the letter count; it's 5,8.
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Maybe the clue's a bit convoluted, so here's a clue to the clue: The note is a musical note, and the bog's not the marshy variety.
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Fool's Paradise?
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Yep, grahams, Fools' Paradise it is.
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Here's another -
Provided student with a variable resistor (5, 3)
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Gavel pot?
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That's it Roger - almost lasted an hour.
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Ooh! Thinking time!
Might this weed be flagged up as pirated? (5, 4, 3)
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Hi Roger W, two days and no attempts at solving your clue . . . time for a clue? (I had thought on the lines 'Roger something' [as in, e.g Roger Kirk Cave] on the ground that the Jolly Roger is the pirate flag, but I couldn't make anything fit.)
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Hi Roger W, two days and no attempts at solving your clue . . . time for a clue? (I had thought on the lines 'Roger something' [as in, e.g Roger Kirk Cave] on the ground that the Jolly Roger is the pirate flag, but I couldn't make anything fit.)
Same here. :smartass:
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It was men like Ned Teach who fought under the flag
Whose design marked them out as men to avoid.
But 'twas John who got lost and is linked to the (w)hole,
And under Leck Fell you may search for the void...
'Cos yes, looking it up, the place is also known as a hole...
Aiyah! Have also discovered I can't count! :-[ :spank: :chair:
It should be 6 4 3 or 6 4 4.
That should make it much easier!
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Death's Head Hole
Not so obscure.....
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Correct!
Must remember to take my mittens off next time I count up the letters!
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Death's Head Hole
Not so obscure…..
Yeah . . . . when you've got the correct letter count. ;)
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Letter count for this feature will be precise, have better than ± 15% accuracy and be reproducible... ;)
Strike all of it complete without tungsten. 4,4
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Echo Hole? - Though not very convinced as to where the Echo bit comes from?
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Your right not to be convinced about Echo.
It is a well known feature.
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Blow Hole then?
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That's it.
Away you go.
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Better see if I can get the letter counts right this time then!
"Regatta ploughs into chaos without us." (4,5,3)
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Gale Garth Pot?
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That's the badger - over to you!
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Thanks.
"Herdwick origami?" (9, Cave)
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I tried for a while to rearrange "Herdwick" to get 9 letters, but without success...
There is a Sheepfold Cave at SD 6760 8060.
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Sheepfold it is - ewe are correct Roger.
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Sheepfold Cave?
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Sheepfold cave -
"SHEEPFOLD CAVE NGR SD 6760 8060 Alt 319m Length 40m
Situated at the back of the prominent sheepfold upstream of and on the opposite bank of SWINDON HOLE . A dry crawl to the stream in a 1.2m high passage to a junction. Right is sideways going for 18m to a shingle choke. To the left is an inlet, which is an awkward struggle to a small waterfall where it was possible to emerge beneath a huge boulder at the sink higher up the fell (Now blocked)."
http://www.rrcpc.org.uk/easegill/text/minor.htm (http://www.rrcpc.org.uk/easegill/text/minor.htm)
It's been a hard day putting up Christmas decorations for when the grandchildren arrive - but:
"runs naked to the grass" (7, 3)
That shouldn't last longer than half an hour... if that!
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Ooh, one I can guess at. Streaks Pot?
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Yea, well guessed!
Your turn now,with all appropriate greetings for the festive season.
Happy Christmas, everyone.
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Adolf's crew's mood changes when they see it. (5,2,8)
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Sword of Damocles?
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Yup
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A submariner, with what sounds like a not very heavy Welsh dish around right, identifies this feature of a northern pot (9 (95% CI, 7–8), 5 (95% CI, 4–6)).
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Presumably most people miscount / misspell the answer....?
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No, HardenClimber3, I'm just taking the piss. (No offence meant, Roger : ) )
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amphibian crawl then
(I did wonder if it might be spelt amfibian, but not even Americans would do that)
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Nice try, but not good enough.
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And if you need another clue, it's vaguely seasonal!
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Booth-Parson's Crawl?
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Not B-P Crawl.
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Anemolite Crawl?
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Anemolite Crawl it is, andys.
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I managed to think of 'Nemo' for the submariner (are there others??) but was stymied by my total ignorance of Anemolite crawl...
Still, googling it led to a good trip report: http://www.shefcavers.org.uk/2016/12/05/grange-rigg-to-christmas-pot-a-report-from-behind-enemy-lines/ (http://www.shefcavers.org.uk/2016/12/05/grange-rigg-to-christmas-pot-a-report-from-behind-enemy-lines/) so that's fine :)
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Here we go then.....
"One-off evening service to Pontefract Tanshelf station." (6,3)
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vesper pot
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Thats the one - over to you! :-)
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OK, andys, I 'get' the 'evening service' – but what on Earth has it got to do with 'Pontefract Tanshelf station'? (I even duckduckgo'ed (or should that be duckduckwent?) it in search of enlightenment, but failed in my quest – though I was intrigued to see that a relatively small town has 3 railway stations.)
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OK, andys, I 'get' the 'evening service' – but what on Earth has it got to do with 'Pontefract Tanshelf station'? (I even duckduckgo'ed (or should that be duckduckwent?) it in search of enlightenment, but failed in my quest – though I was intrigued to see that a relatively small town has 3 railway stations.)
.. the station code for Pontefract Tanshelf is POT - and I'd run out of other ideas for how to cryptificate such a frequent word in the answers! :)
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Part of a Yorkshire cave:
Advertising carbonated drinks before beer, then a jug without the Queen. 5,5
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Shale Pitch (as in Birks Fell)?
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That's the one.
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Festive one then....
"Wow! Santa, berries and all - but Ada ignored in the arrangements." (4,7,7)
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Nine Barrows Swallet.
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Too easy then! Looks like the Xmas Cryptic is over to you!
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Throwing round the French's large hirsute right features in a Mendip cave (7,5,5,4)
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No takers yet? Well, think of a word for 'throwing' and try wrapping its letter round the rest of the clue.
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Castles Great Hairy Ring (presumably, not suitable for minors!!!) ?
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Correct, andys
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Ok then, try -
"Could be that he hands out judgements in rhyme in a Dales cave." (6,7)
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Poetic Justice?
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That's the one!
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Thanks. Here's another -
"These sound like they will help your digestion to cope will too much Christmas spirit (3, 10)"
(Well known feature of a Dales cave).
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Ha! The colon aids! aka The Colonades?
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The Colon n ades
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Indeed it is Andys.
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"Realignment of all ravage accepted alternative name for well known Dales cave." (8,5,4)
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Clapdale Great Cave?
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That's the one - over to you!
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Thanks.
"Snicker not at this place (4, 3, 3, 8, 6)" - a famous Dales cave location.
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Would that be "Near and far marathon crawls" ? Just been reading about Mossdale in the RRCPC journal....
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That's the place JasonC - over to you.
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ok...
Sounds like a contender for a MOBO award under Chapel-le-Dale (5,3)
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What's a MOBO?
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A racist award.... ::)
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What's a MOBO?
Duck Duck Go is your friend..... ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOBO_Awards (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOBO_Awards)
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I was blissfully unaware of the existence of Mobo but Raven Way, Tatham Wife Hole is the only cave or feature that fits the word count that I can find so a bit of a guess I'm afraid.
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I thought that the Raven Way was in Black Shiver Pot.
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Not Raven Way - a little less tangential (IMO) - but Fulk is warm....
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Blood Pot?
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Hot, hot, hot.... but not there yet
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Black Dub? (dub being a musical style).
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:clap2: :clap2:
That's the one Graham - Dub being a derivative of reggae, I always thought "Black Dub" sounded like it could be sub-genre and thus eligible for a Music Of Black Origin award. But I guess it's a bit of a tautology, presumably most Dubbists (if that's a word) are black.
Anyway... take it away !
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Thanks JasonC.
Happy new year to all the Cryptic Caves players.
"Dead hinds resurrecting (4, 5, 7)"
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Time for a clue - there are two of these in the eastern Dales NW and SE.
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Nidd heads risings?
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They're the ones Crickleymal.
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Sounds like he disapproves when complete. 7,4
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Is it Haytime Hole?
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Is it Haytime Hole?
Nope
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This is an aural clue
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Another clue, what do you say if you disapprove of something?
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Another clue, what do you say if you disapprove of something?
...depends if its the Mrs or someone more interesting! :)
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Hissing Hole? - if there is such a place!
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Nope. CNCC lists it
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A well-wisher* sent my wife a message saying: 'Tell Fulk it must be Tutman's Hole'. So, here we go:
Tutman's Hole?
*Maybe he could be arced to hunk up the next clue ;).
Bloody spell-checker – I tried to write 'Maybe he couldn't be arsed to think up the next clue' and it comes out as 'Maybe he could be arced to hunk up the next clue'.
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That's it. Over to whoever. :clap2:
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OK Rob, since you ain't gonna do it, how about:
Jealous, bedded saint around post office (5,5,3)
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Green Laids Pot - maybe?
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Well done, Trogger . . . I thought it'd last more than 55 minutes!! :thumbsup:
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Here's a quickie: If you're fired-up you'll enjoy this one! (5,5)
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Titan Shaft?
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Right idea but wrong area.
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Arson Shaft?
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Spot on Kevlar - over to you! It's in the Ease Gill Magic Roundabout area.
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Sounds like the drummer's pounding has shown the way to go.
(4,5)
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All I can come up with is "Beat Route" - and I'm not sure that even exists! Maybe time for another clue Kevlar - like cave or feature, Dales or Wales or whatever? :)
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What you've come up with would be right!
It's in the Goyden system :)
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Sounds more like a root vegetable to me. :)
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Well you learn something every day on here - and Goyden was my first ever cave!
"Headless badger and French dressing running over parsnips starters." (6,4)
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Maybe Rocket Drop?
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That's the one Trogger - your go!
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Nice clue.
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This shouldn't last long: Father loses a letter, but still sounds intact (4,4).
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Pate hole cave?
Up near Asby Gill, I believe.
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Pate Hole - correct sir, all yours!
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Thank you, sir!
Now, somewhere underground...
Where I live? Precipitation within!
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Hrai nome
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Hrai nome? Don't know that one...
You're thinking along the right lines, but it's where I live.
Letter count: 5, 5, 5
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Well that'll be Roger Rains House won't it?
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It is!
Over to you...
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Give up after the mixed up mumblings of ruminants.
(4,4)
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Smoo Cave?
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That'll be it. Your turn :)
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Thankee! Try this Dales cave then....
"Ruined by apes in underground development." (7,3)
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Time for a further clue methinks - its a rarely visited grade 3 on the flanks of Ingleborough.....
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Rosebay Pot?
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That's the badger - over to you!
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Sounds like a beginner changes Ms Stoop (5,4,3)
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Is it Newby Moss Pot - just along the hill from the last one?
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Lasted all of 18 mins. It's yours Andys.
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OK, try this cave....
"Sea south of Fastnet filled with variable wet weather." (10,4)
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Sweetwater Hole one presumes.
(Apologies but if correct I'm no good at setting clues so over to anyone else for a go)
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Thats the one Fred - but over to someone else as you don't want your go. :beer2:
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Court Sir David Frost's viewing point (6,4)
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Wookey Hole?
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:clap2:
Got it, though is it David Frost or Lloyd Grossman?
And also, as one clue section goes across two words, would you use a question mark?
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:clap2:
Got it, though is it David Frost or Lloyd Grossman?
And also, as one clue section goes across two words, would you use a question mark?
Yes, 'twas Frost and, no, no need for a question mark in my opinion. :)
Try this one then......
"Five parallel lines hold as rocket explodes." (4,5,4)
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... further clue then? Its NC2 again......
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Five parallel lines? A stave?
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Five parallel lines? A stave?
.... keep going - you're on your way :) ......
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Stot Rakes Cave
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.... that's the one! Over to you.....
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Sounds like Frankenstein's assistant might not be allowed in here. (3,1,3)
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Ban-y-Gor?
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Well done sir; over to you.
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Thankee
Warning - groaner:
"Thith ith what you might get if you don't opt to wear protection in long crawlth (7, 3)"
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Lisper's Leg? Thurely not!
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Thore kneeth?
(Oh, sorry, I just spotted the letter count.)
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You're so close Fulk.
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Thorney Pot?
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That's the one Fulk. I'll get me coat.
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Cheers, grahams. As it happens I'm off on holiday tomorrow, so I'll throw the next clue open to anyone to have a go.
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Fills hole with bric-a-brac. (8,4)
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Anybody?
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Methinks an area/book clue might be needed!
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A clue for the first word.
Speaks, following about fifty.
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Clutters Cave?
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Well done; back to you sir. :)
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Thanks Ship-badger
"Sounds like a kettle drum after a dovetail (7, 5)"
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Timpony Joint?
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That's the one Andys.
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Onwards, with a rugby "Six Nations" theme then......
"Backs give in. Scrummage!" (3,4,4)
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Big Sink Cave?
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Yep! :)
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Lascars seeming perturbed here. 4,6,4
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Clue?
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Miss Graces Lane
(it also anagrams to "creaming lasses" so perhaps the Miss Graces were milkmaids ?)
Sorry no clue from me again, so open to all.
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Donald Trumps plate smashing gave in (8,4)
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Donald Trumps plate smashing gave in (8,4)
NC1
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Crackpot Cave?
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:clap2:
Over to you
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Ta. Here's another -
"Willing hock rescheduled for this promising Dales dig (3, 4, 4)"
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Im going to have a stab at How Gill Sink?
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That's the one Ian. Also known as How Gill Nick.
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:thumbsup:
Chink chink (4,4)
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Slit Sink?
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Afraid not
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It's in NC2 and not a cave.
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Needs a 24m rope
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Echo Rift?
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:thumbsup:
Thanks Andy, was getting desperate there! Was quite chuffed with that one :-(
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Good clue Ian - keep 'em coming. :clap2:
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Try this then....
"Call the French before cancelling all VATable exports initially." (6,4,4)
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Ringle Mill Cave? (though I don't know where the Mill bit comes from).
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That's the one - and my fault for omitting the word "factory" from the middle of the clue!