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Caving Chat / Re: Caving For The Over 70's
« Last post by The Old Ruminator on Today at 12:49:45 pm »
Dont mention the radon  :lol: My mate "Mr Radon" on here reckons it will spell the end for all of us cavers and is dead against young people caving. He is a pharmacist so does have a little knowledge of it. My view is it's all sods law. Whatever you do will result in your death and as far as I see super fit sports persons dont seem to live any longer than the rest of us. Much of it for us old un's is any absence from debilitating disease and skeletal muscular problems. Ability to recover quickly helps too though I am generally like a       " Dead Dog " on Wednesdays. Having a focus clearly helps to get you beyond the C.B.A. syndrome. I found that with diving as it was wreck research that kept me going. Sure real life can be very banal and everything now aims at the lowest possible denominator and political correctness. Sadly many are losing the spiritual meaning of life as they become immersed in modern technology. In future caving might see that and result in decline. I look at my street and see tarmac and gravel everywhere. Few have lovely gardens. My house is covered in climbing hydrangea and I have lawns and flower borders. The Japanese viewed gardens as a very spiritual place. I view caves and diving like that. A retreat from the burgeoning obsession with modernity and technology. ( I have never used an automatic checkout and resent the patronising tone of the robotic salesperson. "Please insert you clubcard -- arghhh.). No, of course I wont win. I found that out with self service petrol pumps years ago..
So enough of my anti modernity rant. Back to caving. We have a local " Underground Taunton " Facebook Group. Basically there is no real underground Taunton any more the there is an underground Swindon. There are 1500 members of the group mostly of the armchair variety who seem horrified when I actually post a real caving photo. Ooo the mud and loose boulders etc ! Funny that aint it ? Yes I still love my caving and do far more now than when I was younger. OK no Agen Allwedd and Draenen round trips. I do know my limits. Well rather I don't now. I did years ago but now I am never sure where the cut off point is or if ever that second wind will blow in. Yes ,now thinking about it that is a major worry for us older folk. Can I or can't I ? Couple that with the horrible dishonour of some overblown Mendip rescue situation. " Pensioner Rescued by Fire Service. Madness at That Age says Police Spokesman." I would shrivel up and die. So the digging and amateur photography sustain my passion. Oh. I really worry a 75m pitch is just around the corner in Vurley. The Cheddar Master Cave is calling. Good job I can swim.
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Peak District / Re: Boyd Potts
« Last post by Jenny P on Today at 12:01:33 pm »
I would like to thank all Boyd's caving friends from all over Britain who came to Christ Church on 10th. October to say goodbye to him and to celebrate his life. There were so many of you there and I would have loved to be able to thank each and every one of you in person after the service but this just wasn’t possible. The many kind messages I have received have meant a great deal to me and I very much appreciate your support. Boyd gave a great deal to the caving community and I know he won’t be forgotten.  My heart felt thanks to all of you.

Jenny
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Caving Chat / Re: Caving For The Over 70's
« Last post by Jenny P on Today at 11:55:04 am »
Well Boyd Potts did the Titan / J.H. exchange trip for his 70th. birthday. 

A duff knee slowed him a bit towards the end of his 70's - though he reckoned that was from running too many marathons on hard roads.  He was still caving at 79, till lung cancer got him - probably radon-related 'cos he didn't smoke.
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Caving Chat / Re: Caving For The Over 70's
« Last post by royfellows on Today at 11:52:27 am »
With regard to the telly – was I out of the country when they passed the law that said you're not allowed to watch the good stuff, only the crap?

It's 97% crap and the crap you see while looking for non-crap is addictive and degrading.

Yes, but they wouldn't show this crap unless they knew that a lot of people would watch it.

Luckily we don't ask these viewers to make any decisions that might affect the rest of us.

Do we???

Yes we do, its part of democracy.
Dont want to start any arguments, just make a point.

EU referendum, all the publicity went one way, but result the other.

Remember, "Who wants to be a millionaire". I dumped my TV years ago so dont know if its still running.
Anyway, an option was "Ask the audience"

Oddly, the audience majority was seldom wrong, even on some technical questions.
Its a funny one.

As I said no TV for years but I not missing anything. In the world of TV every household has a member who is gay from what I hear. Or is it just on BBC.
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Caving Chat / Suspect Bolts in J.H.
« Last post by Jenny P on Today at 11:47:09 am »
Following the identification and extraction of one duff P-bolt, please avoid using anchors at the head of the usual route down Leviathan.  A second bolt in this area also failed its test but could not be extracted and this has been marked with red cable-ties.

Following a report of a suspect bolt in J.H. earlier this year, a programme of testing all the original anchor installations has been taking place, thanks to Henry Rockliffe and friends.  Most of the anchors in JH were originally placed in 1994-5, using Hilti resin (which has now been superseded for anchor installation), and before the current installation system and adoption of DCA’s IPTD (Installation Procedure, Training and Documentation).  Even so the original bolts have lasted for over 20 years.  A total reassessment is now taking place of all anchors installed in J.H. and, once this if finished and any necessary replacement anchors have been installed, a new topo. will be published on the DCA website.
 
Jenny Potts
Hon. Sec. DCA
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Cave Science / Re: Dye Testing, Brants Gill Head catchment
« Last post by nobrotson on Today at 11:02:35 am »
thankyou John, I will look in the ULSA library for some.
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Caving Chat / Re: Caving For The Over 70's
« Last post by Laurie on Today at 10:28:09 am »
You do bloody well Laurie.... :kiss2:
See you at Christmas Dave?
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Cave Science / Re: Dye Testing, Brants Gill Head catchment
« Last post by Pitlamp on Today at 09:24:57 am »
Along similar lines, the British Speleological Association publications are an excellent information source as well.
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Cave Science / Re: Dye Testing, Brants Gill Head catchment
« Last post by Pitlamp on Today at 09:23:47 am »
Page 21 in the original Underground Adventure book (Gemmell & Myers) gives a useful insight into what wasn't known for certain by the late 1940s, when Dalesman accepted the text. (Note that the book wasn't published until four years later.) Both Arthur Gemmell and Jack Myers were switched on professionals (architect & geophysicist respectively) and, if they'd have been aware of reliable dye tests by that stage, they'd no doubt have stated details. (This may help narrow down your literature search?) The information given in G & M mentions that their six inch Ordnance Survey map stated: "Issues at Douk Gill Plantation". Where the O.S. got that information from isn't known.

Beardy's post above gives a useful insight into the immense value of Cave Research Group publications. Very few present day cavers seem to be aware of just how good these are; they contain a vast amount of speleological knowledge and I'd recommend consulting them whenever a query such as the above is raised.
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Caving Chat / Re: Caving For The Over 70's
« Last post by Chocolate fireguard on Today at 09:10:18 am »
With regard to the telly – was I out of the country when they passed the law that said you're not allowed to watch the good stuff, only the crap?

It's 97% crap and the crap you see while looking for non-crap is addictive and degrading.

Yes, but they wouldn't show this crap unless they knew that a lot of people would watch it.

Luckily we don't ask these viewers to make any decisions that might affect the rest of us.

Do we???
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