andrewmcleod
Well-known member
2xw said:
I would be very, very surprised if the AGM voted against letting you stand, given that you complied with the requirements of the constitution.
BCA AGM 2019 in Horton-in-Ribblesdale
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I would be very, very surprised if the AGM voted against letting you stand, given that you complied with the requirements of the constitution.
aricooperdavis
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I'd love to hear what Robin has to say about this; is he on the forum to comment?
Madness
New member
Being the cynic that I am I wonder if at sometime in the past you've had a 'run in' with the old guard/control freaks/whatever and this is their way of getting you out of their way.
Apologies to any members of the BCA council who aren't members of the old guard and who aren't control freaks.
Apologies to any members of the BCA council who aren't members of the old guard and who aren't control freaks.
cavemanmike
Well-known member
I smell a bit of nepotism hear.ie :- damein/robin.
Might be wrong though 😈😈
Might be wrong though 😈😈
You are very wrong. In fact, I hope you don't know me, because I would be genuinely hurt to think that anyone thinks I did the job of secretary for anything other than the doing my bit for caving. I am also pretty confident my dad is in the same position. Neither of us sought the role of secretary and I hadn't been anywhere near BCA, other than as a member of a member club, for several years prior to my dad taking on the role.cavemanmike said:
Oh FFS, most older members will identify the requirement for a signature to mean it must be on paper & "in any format" meaning it doesn't matter how it's laid out on the page. Email probably wasn't even considered an option when the Constitution was written. After all, anyone wishing to join BCA has to use an application form & club reps have to bring a letter to AGM, so it's an understandable interpretation of what is written down, rather than an attempt to block an individual who could easily have complied if he hadn't left it to the last minute...
Also it doesn't prevent you from still contributing via Y & D.
Also it doesn't prevent you from still contributing via Y & D.
andrewmcleod
Well-known member
mikem said:
No they don't - it can be done online.
andrewmcleod
Well-known member
cavemanmike said:
I would suggest you are (potentially rudely) barking up completely the wrong tree here.
In my (admittedly limited) dealings with Damien I have always found him very helpful; I am also aware that he was very involved in Eurospeleo 2016, amongst other things. I get the impression that Secretary is a thankless job with an awfully large workload as well as being essentially the BCA Council cat-herder (rounding up reports etc.). I wouldn't wish the job on anyone and regardless of day-to-day disputes I am very grateful to any Secretary who has done their part for the BCA.
cavemanmike
Well-known member
Like I said.
I might be wrong.
I might be wrong.
Bob Mehew
Well-known member
Hi Mikem - Would you like to read the many hundreds of emails I exchanged when we wrote the BCA constitution?mikem said:
I won't claim we left the wording vague so as to include the potential of email as I have to admit we did update the constitution around 2010 to include 13.3 & 13.4. But I do recall using fax machines to transmit legal documents as long ago as 1990.
PS whilst it is normally two individual reps, a third post is vacant so some how, someone is going to have to be selected for that 1 year term post.
Cavematt
Well-known member
I have suggested that the current Executive contact the three applicants to suggest that they come to an agreement between themselves as to who will take the two-year posts and who will take the one year post. I'd rather it could be dealt with this way than via a complex election at the AGM.
The question is whether a two year post is actually more desirable than a one year...
The question is whether a two year post is actually more desirable than a one year...
andrewmcleod
Well-known member
Or (in the absence of agreement)...
It could be argued that the nominations were only for the two-year positions, and not the position of 'acting individual member representative'. In which case there should first be an election for the two-year positions, and then nominations for the one-year position (which would be vacant) could be taken from the floor
It could be argued that the nominations were only for the two-year positions, and not the position of 'acting individual member representative'. In which case there should first be an election for the two-year positions, and then nominations for the one-year position (which would be vacant) could be taken from the floor
nearlywhite
Active member
My own personal position on Will not being on the ballot is that it is a farce of the highest order, due to a willful intent to leave him out of council. It's a shame that after all the necessary work Robin has done for BCA that he will be leaving under this cloud. I think that the AGM must be given a chance to keep the only member of council who has done anything to advance the DIM cause by comprehensively looking into online voting and actually advocating for them, unlike others who use the voting position to express personal views.
Either we elect no one or Will should be able to stand. Both would be constitutional as he communicated an intent to run before the deadline.
Either we elect no one or Will should be able to stand. Both would be constitutional as he communicated an intent to run before the deadline.
