Hanging flat mine

[Mark]

An engraving published in 1817 - doesn't the dale look so much better without the rampant tree cover !

And the cliffs on the left hand side instead of the quarry

 

[royfellows]

Maybe it does, but the trees and undergowth make good mooching territory, and there are a few interesting bits. Mainly from quarrying.

 

[Hasbeen caver]

And the cliffs on the left hand side instead of the quarry

Can someone (Mark?) explain the orientation of that engraving, and which features recognisable today, are shown? And where that house is, etc...

Ta

 

[Mark]

Can someone (Mark?) explain the orientation of that engraving, and which features recognisable today, are shown? And where that house is, etc...

Ta

I think it is based quite loosely on this scene from the bottom of Eyam Dale (off to the right)

 

[Hasbeen caver]

I think it is based quite loosely on this scene from the bottom of Eyam Dale (off to the right)

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Wow, that's an amazing postcard, thanks Mark.
Do you think that's actually Cucklet Delf running off to the right? With one of the crags of Stoney West in the background? It's just I can't think of a buttress overlooking Eyam Dale like the one near the top right of the picture...
I'm definitely going to check (it's only a 5 minute drive from Tidza )
Neil

 

[Mark]

Wow, that's an amazing postcard, thanks Mark.
Do you think that's actually Cucklet Delf running off to the right? With one of the crags of Stoney West in the background? It's just I can't think of a buttress overlooking Eyam Dale like the one near the top right of the picture...
I'm definitely going to check (it's only a 5 minute drive from Tidza )
Neil

A better one of Stoney West? without the trees, the Delph on the right

 

[Hasbeen caver]

A better one of Stoney West? without the trees, the Delph on the right

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Wow, that one is sublime... And yes, definitely Cucklet Delf in the previous picture - though I've just realised that you originally noted that Eyam Dale was off to the right (of the photographer) rather than that the side valley in the picture was Eyam Dale. My mistake, though worth making so I could see the second photo which is just amazing.

 

[pwhole]

I can't help feeling I've seen that photo of the old guy in the wagon before, and I think it might be a very old JW Puttrell. But he died in 1939, so if it was him, it couldn't be Hanging Flat Mine as it hadn't been started then. But I guess there were other mines nearby with tramways. My guess is somewhere in the Via Gellia if it's not Stoney.

That photo of the dale above is amazing - we wouldn't have needed the Cave Registry if it still looked like that

 

[Mrs Trellis]

Old-ish Jimmy P.

 

[Mrs Trellis]

Some good photos in these reports. Note the pipe shown protruding from the portal in the old photo of the tub.

Report - - Hanging Flat Mine, Stoney Middleton, Derbyshire, June 2021 | Mines and Quarries

1. The History Just west of Stoney Middleton, Derbyshire, Hanging Flat mine is a small mine, initially worked for lead and then later on for fluorspar. It sits 100 feet above Watergrove sough, and for many years the mine appears to have been un-named before being given its current moniker. In...

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[T pot 2]

I too have noticed a good outward draught at the entrance but only on a warm day, when I too assumed it's heading down the shaft above and out via the right hand level. Did you notice inside where the draught was originating from. The fans do mean that any new draught is definitely worth investigating...

An outward draught at the entrance cannot be created from a higher supposed shaft, an higher shaft would draw air In and give vent to the highest discharge to open air

 

[Rob]

An outward draught at the entrance cannot be created from a higher supposed shaft, an higher shaft would draw air In and give vent to the highest discharge to open air

That depends on the outside temperature. In warm weather (warmer outside than inside the cave/mine) air will tend to be sucked in top entrances and blown out lower entrances.