Wood burners

Hope they manage to sort something about woodburners, eg some filter solution to trap particulates. I'd be very reluctant to get rid of ours with the demonstrated lack of robustness in the electricity distribution infrastructure.

And I'd take a dim view of a ban on woodburners if it didn't also apply to barbecues, bonfires and firepits.
 
You'd have thought if they managed to essentially solve the power station SO2 problem using scrubbers, they'd be able to filter out particles in stoves.
 
I have a lot of sympathy for owners of these wood burning stoves - people try to do their best for the environment then some pettifogger tells you you've done the wrong thing.
Last year we had one of our spare patio heaters converted to run on reclaimed sump oil, then the government said internal combustion engines were going to be phased out!
 
Hmm - well, The Guardian merely published the study in a news article, so it's hardly their fault. Here's the study:

https://acp.copernicus.org/articles/21/17865/2021/

And I was referring to my actual experience breathing in actual wood-smoke created by wood-burners around Sheffield, an actual city. None of which are made up by The Guardian either. They could always put another jumper on if they're cold :)
 
pwhole said:
And I was referring to my actual experience breathing in actual wood-smoke created by wood-burners around Sheffield, an actual city.

Says the man who voluntarily inhales copious amounts of carcinogenic smoke into his lungs, multiple times a day.  ;)

I get the "its my choice, and doesn't affect others" you're about to retort with, but its a bit rich that your so vociferous about it.  :shrug:
 
After the recent storms my parents were without power for 4 days. (They live 10 minutes drive from Buxton, a rural area but not in the middle of nowhere) Luckily they have a wood burner, gas bottles for their hob and lots of head torches!
They would have survived without the wood burner, but been a lot colder and less happy!

I had many friends who were without power for 2 or 3 days, and one family from our school who had none for 7 days (they live in Miller's dale - not somewhere very remote) and it did make me think that actually having some means to keep warm and lit separate from the national grid is probably a good idea......

Not sure about wood burners in cities though - that is a whole different issue that I don't know enough about.
I suspect if the 6 or 7 days 25,000 houses went without power recently had been in the South East there would have been a lot more fuss and help provided.....
 
SamT said:
pwhole said:
And I was referring to my actual experience breathing in actual wood-smoke created by wood-burners around Sheffield, an actual city.

Says the man who voluntarily inhales copious amounts of carcinogenic smoke into his lungs, multiple times a day.  ;)

I get the "its my choice, and doesn't affect others" you're about to retort with, but its a bit rich that your so vociferous about it.  :shrug:
But I'm not about to retort with that. Because it's not me I'm worrying about, ironically - most people don't smoke, and there are thousands of kids live around there, and several schools and parks. The whole place is a fog-bank on cold days, and just - stinks. You really do need to wear a mask. I'm not complaining about it in the countryside - that's obviously fine, as long as the wind's blowing. But in a busy urban environment with a dense population it's absurd. And it only happens in the posh suburbs. I have smoke from a thousand competing kebab grills to deal with here, and a snails-pace endless line of revving traffic.
 
It's people burning coal round our end in grenoside as it seems to slowly rise up the hill. Not sure why the crap is still sold and more.

The particulates are trapped in by all the trees but shhh don't tell the council!
 
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