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More Big Stuff in waterways
« on: June 20, 2008, 05:13:24 pm »
Hi all,

Not been around much for a while, but recently our Waterways Swallet project has been restarted...

Last week another large chanber was discovered after a tough bit of "adjustment"

Here is me sitting in the breakthrough point... Ian Bishop Pete Dell and myself were the breakthrough artistes on this occaision.



A decent of 8 m reached the bottom of a rift that breaks out into a large chanber - Room101..  it's big!  ::)



The far end of the chamber has this choke...



The floor has holes everyhere, and nice "mud" floor, this has been taped off as the holes can be reached via a boulder rift in the floor.

Further adjustments led to a route up into horrible choke explored by Richard Lockyer, and also a route down against a wall. This was followed to exit in the choke at the end of Blore Street, making a round trip (though not "recommended" apparently....)

Further work is continuing elsewhere in the cave, still looking for the elusive streamway...





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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2008, 05:19:40 pm »
Wow it is big. Who "just happened" to be carrying the huge spot light??
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Well done guys quite a find...
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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2008, 05:21:09 pm »
Wow it is big. Who "just happened" to be carrying the huge spot light??
   ;)
Well done guys quite a find...

The chamber photos were on the second visit yesterday...  :) The round trip was first acheived on that trip.
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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2008, 05:22:22 pm »
It does look very groovy - much better than the infernal boulder choke of doom - I have never tried to levitate for such a long time!!!

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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2008, 05:43:03 pm »
Damn!

Now I will have to go back again.  :o

Well done though.  :thumbsup:

Where is it in relation to the rest of the cave?
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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2008, 05:50:04 pm »

Where is it in relation to the rest of the cave?

It's not even half way down! Breathrough point is a few meters before the first ladder. The survey has just been doen for the new guide - it's out of date now!! LOL

This link is a VERY rough sketch of where the new chamber is...

http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i92/andyf10/?action=view&current=WaterwaysProfileFinal01with101.jpg
« Last Edit: June 20, 2008, 06:13:20 pm by AndyF »
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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2008, 05:52:45 pm »

Where is it in relation to the rest of the cave?

It's not even half way down! Breathrough point is a few meters before the first ladder. The survey has just been doen for the new guide - it's out of date now!! LOL

Great! A guide that's out of date even before it's printed. That's the way it should be.  :bow:
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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2008, 06:11:12 pm »

Where is it in relation to the rest of the cave?

It's not even half way down! Breathrough point is a few meters before the first ladder. The survey has just been doen for the new guide - it's out of date now!! LOL

Great! A guide that's out of date even before it's printed. That's the way it should be.  :bow:

Unless it gets updated before printing!

Yes - congratulations! Excellent stuff.
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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2008, 11:27:55 pm »
good effort  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

so far - the 200 meters of rope is yours by the look.

we are hoping to make the bagshawe survey out of date this year too. it will happen, it will happen, it will happen it.......... :wall:

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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2008, 02:26:42 pm »
Congrats, looks awesome! If you ever want some cocky little kid to come take some rubbish photos of it, just give us a call  ;D

so far - the 200 meters of rope is yours by the look.
Do you have an estimate length? And no, we weren't allowed to do lots of little survey circles around our chambers, so neither are you!  :spank:
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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2008, 05:19:00 pm »
Good effort fellas - no eldon 'grabbers' on this one?

will have to pop down for a look - very impressive.

will be in touch soon

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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2008, 06:24:16 pm »
Congrats, looks awesome! If you ever want some cocky little kid to come take some rubbish photos of it, just give us a call  ;D

so far - the 200 meters of rope is yours by the look.
Do you have an estimate length? And no, we weren't allowed to do lots of little survey circles around our chambers, so neither are you!  :spank:

Not sure yet of length. It has a start point and end point in known passage, so thats probably 40-50m, but then there is a pit in the floor which we can see down at least 10m and is full of rocks, plus a voice connection to another known small inlet that is probably passable and will be another 10m, and a route up into the choke in the roof that is maybe another 15m.

It'll be surveyed at some point when the leads are all properly done.

We need to find the draught as well, whichis very strong at the breakthrough point
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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2008, 09:27:30 am »

have you tried one of those draught meters - as mentioned elsewhere on this site.

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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2008, 12:23:29 pm »

will have to pop down for a look - very impressive.


Let me know when you're going, will come along...

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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2008, 06:41:02 pm »
Congrats, looks awesome! If you ever want some cocky little kid to come take some rubbish photos of it, just give us a call  ;D


Some proper phtography down there would be great, can provide 500w of lighting powered from the surface.  ;D

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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2008, 08:49:16 am »
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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2008, 10:22:36 am »
Some proper photography down there would be great...
Not sure if this counts as "proper photography", but it certainly was a great trip. Thanks very much Andy.  :thumbsup:

Andy in one of the boulder chokes                                                                     Room 101


Katie climbing out of Toad Haul                                                    Katie in the Wotno Streamway
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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2008, 03:55:54 pm »
Great photos give a real feel of the place and interesting rock features.

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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2008, 05:52:15 pm »
indeed some nice photos!! :thumbsup:

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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2008, 06:02:56 pm »
Great pics - I learned a lot watching Jon, twas a good trip. We even made it for a pint at the end  ;D
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Re: More Big Stuff in waterways
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2008, 09:09:24 pm »
Better pics then my effort in Waterways!

Well done on getting the taping in so soon after discovery Andy.   Incidentally I've got some spare reams of the orange BCA/DCA tape, and I could arrange some anti-corrode pegs should you want to tidy-up the existing taping.

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