I know of at least one passage in the system that ends close to the surface in an area which is on CROW land and owned by a different landowner to the existing entrances. There may be more. I report this in as unbiased a way as I can.
Is there a way to silence a thread or certain people?
I think David was suggesting that the "different landowner" might possibly be willing to allow digging on his land to open another entrance.I'm sure there used to be a way of blocking off other members of the forum that you didn't like or agree with so that their posts became invisible to you (although other forum users could still see them). The trouble is, I can't remember how it was done, and a quick forum search didn't help either.
Does CROW give a right to dig now; or is landowner permission still required?
Nice try Newstuff. "Dislodging topsoil" sounds like digging to me. This sort of "clever" wordplay just makes you look foolish.
Who said anything about digging? As I understand it, Twll Du, and other places, are under an exceedingly thin layer of topsoil. Just exploratory caving would likely dislodge it. So, to answer your question - Neither.
Oh yeah. The "we accidentally broke through" defence. Pretty unlikely to be believed. Especially if you post about it here first!
But Droid, you baffle me. Where have you found these supposed normative statements in my little post? They just aren't there. Roger W seems to have grasped the point of what I was saying without much difficulty.
Quote from: Rhys on October 11, 2018, 06:47:04 pmOh yeah. The "we accidentally broke through" defence. Pretty unlikely to be believed. Especially if you post about it here first!Given I don't frequent South Wales, let a lone cave or dig there, I'd say you're making shit up again.I will not be digging, breaking through or even doing basic caving in Draenen. Clear enough for you?
I'm not making anything up. I'm just aiming to inject a bit of balance and perhaps some harsh reality.
Quote from: Rhys on October 11, 2018, 08:13:56 pmI'm not making anything up. I'm just aiming to inject a bit of balance and perhaps some harsh reality.Balance? You? Pull the other one, it's got bells on it. I'm more likely to advocate closing all other entrances to this system with concrete than you are to be balanced.
'Oral Proponent of multiple Entry' Sounds well dodgy that....
Quote from: NewStuff on October 11, 2018, 08:27:53 pmQuote from: Rhys on October 11, 2018, 08:13:56 pmI'm not making anything up. I'm just aiming to inject a bit of balance and perhaps some harsh reality.Balance? You? Pull the other one, it's got bells on it. I'm more likely to advocate closing all other entrances to this system with concrete than you are to be balanced.I appreciate you feel pretty strongly about open access Newstuff, but have wondered with your lack of interest in caving in South Wales why you are getting involved. Wouldn't 'Oral Proponent of multiple Entry' be a more appropriate Custom Title for the duration of this thread?
Quote from: Simon Beck on October 11, 2018, 08:46:20 pmQuote from: NewStuff on October 11, 2018, 08:27:53 pmQuote from: Rhys on October 11, 2018, 08:13:56 pmI'm not making anything up. I'm just aiming to inject a bit of balance and perhaps some harsh reality.Balance? You? Pull the other one, it's got bells on it. I'm more likely to advocate closing all other entrances to this system with concrete than you are to be balanced.I appreciate you feel pretty strongly about open access Newstuff, but have wondered with your lack of interest in caving in South Wales why you are getting involved. Wouldn't 'Oral Proponent of multiple Entry' be a more appropriate Custom Title for the duration of this thread?I would love go to Draenen, but given some of the people involved in this clusterfuck, and past unfounded accusations ranging from opening up entrances to criminal damage, it's just inviting all sorts of shenanigans. Quite frankly - I can do without the shit. Can you imagine the shitslinging if someone opened up another entrance within a month of me caving in that neck of the woods? I know which applecarts I can upset in my neck of the woods, and which need to be kept upright, even if it's not ideal. I don't have the same detail of the situation down there. It would be very silly of me to go rampaging in and say "fuck it all. If things were saner there, I'd happily go caving. As for custom titles - that sounds like a dodgy german pr0n flick. In that vein, I prefer "fuck the PDCMG".