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Offline Badlad

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self isolating
« on: March 13, 2020, 02:40:25 pm »
With the wide spread advice about self isolation we were wondering where the best place to self isolate was in the caving world.  Down the dig - could get a lot done in 14 days.  The favourite pub - probably not very isolated.  The far end of Langcliffe?  Where?

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2020, 03:16:27 pm »
At current length the entire BCA membership could get down Draenan and be at least a few metres apart....


Personally I think it's finally time this community comes together to become mole people

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2020, 04:12:45 pm »
At current length the entire BCA membership could get down Draenan and be at least a few metres apart....


And if they all had a pencil and piece of paper and draw the bit they were in, maybe we could get a complete survey that was accessible to us all  ;).
« Last Edit: March 13, 2020, 04:40:32 pm by ogofmole »

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2020, 04:33:13 pm »
The far end of Mossdale might be a good spot - but you'd probably have Simon Beck calling in to see if you were OK.
"That, of course, is the dangerous part about caves:  you don't know how far they go back, sometimes... or what is waiting for you inside."   JRR Tolkein: "The Hobbit"

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2020, 06:27:35 pm »
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The far end of Mossdale might be a good spot - but you'd probably have Simon Beck calling in to see if you were OK.

It would also be a tad wet.
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Re: self isolating
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2020, 06:53:28 pm »
You'll miss out on all that lovely herd immunity. I can send some kids round to fix that for you.

Interestingly it's not impossible we had it in Dec. Bunch of us went down with weird 2 week virus with non-flu symptoms. One was hospitalised with breathing problems the cough got so bad. GP decided not to test as our kid had had it so long (?).

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2020, 10:19:27 pm »
Where do you think you might have caught it?
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Re: self isolating
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2020, 09:08:10 am »
Woo-ton Bassett?

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2020, 08:23:15 pm »
On Mendip Aveline's Hole and Lionel's Hole are by the side of the road.  You could do a drive by to throw supplies at the afflicted without stopping and so reducing the risk of plague contamination.

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2020, 08:48:15 pm »
Will the cavers of Eyam be self-isolating? I seem to remember that tactic was used last time (albeit ~400 years ago),but with unfortunate effects  :o

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2020, 10:34:53 pm »
Will the cavers of Eyam be self-isolating? I seem to remember that tactic was used last time (albeit ~400 years ago),but with unfortunate effects  :o

Unfortunate for the good people of Eyam, but very fortunate for the rest of the district that they did so.  If they had fled the village and carried the plague to the surrounding towns and villages...
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Re: self isolating
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2020, 12:29:26 am »

Unfortunate for the good people of Eyam, but very fortunate for the rest of the district that they did so.  If they had fled the village and carried the plague to the surrounding towns and villages...
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2020, 12:31:51 am »

Unfortunate for the good people of Eyam, but very fortunate for the rest of the district that they did so.  If they had fled the village and carried the plague to the surrounding towns and villages...

Unfortunately that didn't entirely happen.

The hamlet of Curbar was also stricken.

It's still a moving thing to walk round Eyam and see the plague graves, especially the Riley Graves.
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Re: self isolating
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2020, 10:14:33 am »
If you want isolation then any North Wales cave fits the bill, although I did get the shock of my life once when on a solo trip into Hesp Alyn I bumped into 3 other cavers,

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2020, 10:30:42 am »
A more important question is which caving hut can throw the best isolation party, and where can I sign up?  :beer2:

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2020, 12:28:30 pm »
A serous answer to this question might be: one of the more accessible parts of OFD. Dry. Water nearby. Not too draughty. If you had a deal with Ocado, you could persuade them to leave your shopping in Gnome Passage.

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2020, 01:46:17 pm »
Sand Caverns in GG? People could lower supplies down the main chamber.
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Re: self isolating
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2020, 08:07:30 pm »
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Unfortunate for the good people of Eyam, but very fortunate for the rest of the district that they did so.  If they had fled the village and carried the plague to the surrounding towns and villages...

Very sadly for the people of Eyam recent mathematical modelling on the way plague spreads through communities suggests that there would have been fewer deaths had the village not quarantined itself. Although of course the villagers weren't to know that and mathematical modelling can be wrong! (although has proved very accurate for the likes of foot and mouth...)

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2020, 10:31:28 pm »
Plus it hadn't been invented then...

Apparently Curbar was 33 years before Eyam, so maybe they had learned something from them

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2020, 11:03:57 pm »
Speletorn: Sand Caverns in GG? People could lower supplies down the main chamber.

Yeah, I know a whole bunch of folk who'd happily walk up to GG with big rucksacks full of food on their backs – or maybe even hire a chopper – and keep me going while I lurk around in Sand Caverns.

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2020, 08:02:36 am »

Yeah, I know a whole bunch of folk who'd happily walk up to GG with big rucksacks full of food on their backs – or maybe even hire a chopper – and keep me going while I lurk around in Sand Caverns.

Yeah, that's the problem with self-isolation - every person self isolating needs at least one person who is not self-isolating to support them. Preppers will be laughing, but even they may have problems with medicines.

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2020, 08:10:05 am »
Speletorn: Sand Caverns in GG? People could lower supplies down the main chamber.

Yeah, I know a whole bunch of folk who'd happily walk up to GG with big rucksacks full of food on their backs – or maybe even hire a chopper – and keep me going while I lurk around in Sand Caverns.

I think you might have spotted a major flaw in speleotron's suggestion there Fulk. However, it should be possible to survive for a couple of weeks on Vesta Curry. Two boxes a day, 28 boxes, is just a sack load. Soak the stuff for a few hours before eating and minimal amounts of gas are needed to warm it through mmmm.
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Re: self isolating
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2020, 08:13:16 am »
Won't need much loo roll if surviving on vestas either!

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2020, 08:42:45 am »
Anyone got suggestions as to what we might all do if we have to self isolate, to pass the time? In my case I'll use it as an opportunity to mend all that worn out caving gear that has a habit of accumulating.

Or maybe catch up on all those promised  journal articles there never seems to be time to do properly.
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Re: self isolating
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2020, 09:41:46 am »
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I think you might have spotted a major flaw in speleotron's suggestion there Fulk. However, it should be possible to survive for a couple of weeks on Vesta Curry. Two boxes a day, 28 boxes, is just a sack load. Soak the stuff for a few hours before eating and minimal amounts of gas are needed to warm it through mmmm.

It’s not often that you see Vesta Curry and minimal amounts of gas mentioned in the same paragraph.

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2020, 10:31:32 am »
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Anyone got suggestions as to what we might all do if we have to self isolate, to pass the time?

I recently got one of these, although must confess haven't done much with it as yet:
https://www.chaosium.com/call-of-cthulhu-starter-set/
Comes with a solo adventure so could play in splendid isolation.  Just add pencils and paper. No need for WiFi or electricity so could also play in a dark cave.  Preferably one with random draughts and deep shadows for better atmosphere...

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2020, 07:27:10 pm »
Anyone got suggestions as to what we might all do if we have to self isolate, to pass the time? In my case I'll use it as an opportunity to mend all that worn out caving gear that has a habit of accumulating.

Or maybe catch up on all those promised  journal articles there never seems to be time to do properly.

I'm currently walking on my treadmill whilst watching caving videos on youtube

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« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2020, 07:40:22 pm »
. . . and typing posts at the same time; a fine example of multitasking.   :thumbsup:

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2020, 08:00:30 pm »
Well we're now being asked to work from home. Shame I'd already booked the week off...
At least I didn't need to feel guilty about doing some social distancing and going underground today  :)
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Re: self isolating
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2020, 10:13:17 pm »
Disaster on Mendip!
Hunters' Lodge closed! >:(

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2020, 10:18:21 pm »
I’m glad Roger and Jackie are looking after themselves. Would be more upset if anything happened to them than a temporary closure of the centre of the universe!


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Re: self isolating
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2020, 11:43:03 pm »
If we all hide in caves would we end up as Morlocks?

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2020, 07:53:53 am »
If we all hide in caves would we end up as Morlocks?

Yeah - like George Orwell, maybe H G Wells was a prophet . . .

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2020, 11:16:26 am »
I reckon we'd all end up looking like those things from Descent. Some east Dales cavers are already half way there

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Re: self isolating
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2020, 03:31:44 pm »
I reckon we'd all end up looking like those things from Descent. Some east Dales cavers are already half way there

Not too bad, I assume you men the scantily clad females with ice axes.
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Re: self isolating
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2020, 07:32:11 pm »
Although nowadays I think they'd be classed as inadequately clad, rather than scantily...


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Re: self isolating
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2020, 05:35:52 pm »
Yup, they don't seem to be wearing their oversuits!

 

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