If I ever come to Mendip, I leave my house in the East Midlands at about 5am, drive to Mendip, do a days caving, then drive home.
I don't think outsiders should have a major influence in the matter.
An approach by a committee representing hundreds of cavers would have stood no chance.
Over Covid we have gained access to three sites for digging by using the personal approach. An approach by a committee representing hundreds of cavers would have stood no chance.
Keys aren't an issue --- about 2 minutes with a cheap set of lockpicks of ebay will open them locks.
If you’re not a skilled lock pick like Ed, then £4 on eBay will buy you the correct key.
Yes an individual can hold a key. I've had the old one and the new one myself even though I belong to a club with several of them in the tackle store.
Instead I'd be interested to know how many legitimate cavers they keep out because it's more faff to organize a trip. That's the big issue.
.....Instead I'd be interested to know how many legitimate cavers they keep out because it's more faff to organize a trip. That's the big issue.
The point is that within the 'caving community bubble' you don't really get to know who you are putting off caving in your area. No one really does. Why do anything about it when the community is happy with the system? That very much depends on the attitude of those in charge and whether they want to encourage caving, remove barriers and open up to a much wider outdoor demographic.
For those who choose to cave outside an established club, or the BCA, access to a CSCC key may be more problematic and the CSCC is actively looking at how it can better represent and support these people
Be careful what you wish for.If you haven't got the nous to look up how to access a key, you probably haven't got the nous to do the cave without causing damage.'Conservation' and all that...
What is nous? Is this yet another barrier to access. Who do I have to nous to get into upper flood and can I do it in public?
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