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Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« on: January 17, 2012, 02:45:58 pm »
Hello everyone, after all the negativity this particular hole seems to attract I just wanted to do a brief  report for our little visit to Brightgate Cave at the weekend in the hope that a few people might read this and venture down there.  When I spoke the farmer’s wife she said that months could pass without any visits and I thought this was a real shame considering its not a difficult cave and there is some nice stuff to see!!
 
Present were myself Dave and Jonny.  We met at Brightgate farm and after a quick chat with the aforementioned farmers wife to get directions, headed down the track and through the semi frozen cow dung (harmless until the deceptively solid looking crust is broken by the unwary caver) to the cave.  The entrance is easy to find being on the right side of the valley below an electricity pylon and once inside, the change in temperature from -3 winters morning to warm cave was what a penguin must feel like stepping into a sauna!  The obvious climb down is dead ahead and after first going the wrong way into a muddy tube the route on was quickly established and we soon found ourselves at a bit of a squeeze where unfortunately after much wriggling, grunting and cursing the largest member of our party had to stay behind (too much time in the gym perhaps?).  I offered to pull Jonny through but he didn’t seem too keen. 
 
We now found ourselves at the start of a small maze of rifts and passages which possibly give the cave its reputation as being tight and awkward but after a quick look and a few experimental pokes I found an easy route through at the back and to the right.  Some fun was then had as while Dave was squeezing through I doubled back round and tap him on the shoulder via a short section of passage I hadn’t noticed on the way past.  If he had had the room he would have jumped out of his skin!
 
With Dave now in the lead we quickly emerged into a bedding plane chamber and the cave opened up appreciably.  We headed right and deeper into the cave to soon come across a lovely pair of stalactite columns atop a 5 foot slope of flowstone.  After pausing for a few photos and to admire the beauty we moved on only to happen immediately on a gour pool at the bottom of the cave where the bedding plane met the floor.  It was particularly pretty being made up of shades of yellows and whites and even a little purple we thought.  At  the back a column of bright yellow flowstone rose like a frozen waterfall into the roof of the cave giving the impression of a strange subterranean winter scene.  We took some photos but with my appalling photography skills could not get a shot that did it justice.
 
I was now on the lookout of the nearly famous “partially calcited dog skeleton” which we found nestling between two rocks in the middle of the chamber.  My first impressions were, “who’s had a chicken dinner?” being particularly disappointed with what we found as it looked nothing like a dog.  And as for it being calcited, I saw a few spots of white on one of the bones but nothing to suggest it was about to join the dinosaurs anytime soon. (I can post pictures if anyone wants to see!)
 
Being conscious of the fact Jonny was waiting on the surface we quickly explored the rest of the cave following a passage heading upwards in the opposite direction to the gour pool to an interesting stalactite grotto and then down to the far reaches where things were quite muddy and there was much evidence of a dig.   
 
On the way back having retraced our steps to the “maze” where we first entered the bedding plane chamber we were confronted with three ways on and for a second a bit of panic set in as the stories I had read of cavers getting lost for three hours came back to haunt me.  Fortunately and after some discussion me and Dave picked the right passage and were soon back at the squeeze near the entrance.  All that was left was for me to climb the route back out to the milky winter daylight and a shivering Jonny who for some reason had chosen to spend the time in the open rather than shelter in the cave after taking a nap in its coldest part.  Perhaps he was trying to shiver a few pounds off for next time?
 
Overall I found Brightgate while being a relatively short trip, certainly of interest and without any of the discomfort and awkwardness its reputation lends it.  Yes it is a little tight in places but not enough to be uncomfortable or to warrant some of the reports I have read before.  I would highly recommend it as a trip for novices and experienced cavers alike and if you fancy an easy Sunday afternoon trip this is the place for you!

Ben

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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 09:29:44 am »
Sounds fun. Please do post some pictures if you can navigate the forum software to do so.
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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 01:06:21 pm »

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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 01:09:38 pm »
Chicken Dinner anyone??

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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 01:12:03 pm »
Dave on the way out!


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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 01:15:13 pm »
The Gour Pool but you really need to see it for yourself!


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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 01:17:10 pm »
Jonny in the squeezy bit not looking very happy!


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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 07:25:19 pm »
What region is this cave in?

From google I think it's Derbyshire...? Hmm an idea if I am ever down that way visiting my parents or something.
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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 08:29:37 pm »
Its a few miles from me in Winster, near Bakewell and Matlock in Derbyshire.

Nearest road is Bonsall Lane, the one leading from the B5056 towards Bonsall. It is near the hamlet of Brightgate.
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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 10:23:01 pm »
It's on the farm so you have to pay an access fee but while you're there if you have the tackle you could take a look in Tearsall pipes as its in the same place or maybe Jug Holes which is about a 1/4 mile away?

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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 11:14:10 pm »
!/4 of a mile!!! Have you walked it? Brightgate is a lovely little jaunt as you mention, though it can be a bit of a strain for those of a more mature girth (such as myself and possibly your mate!)

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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 08:45:28 am »
We walked it at the weekend so we could have a quick look in the mine, it didnt seem too far but then I am quite tall and saying that Dave did take the car!  There was talk of taking a pot of grease next time we go but Im not sure how much thats going to help!

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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2012, 04:17:01 pm »
I did Jugholes the first time I ever went caving and looked at doing Brightgate but as its reputation precedes it no one wants to go down there......Masson is worth a look though if you're in that area
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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2012, 12:58:33 pm »
Bet if you went down it you would like it!

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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2018, 11:58:09 am »
The COPD grid ref seems to be wrong for this in that it sends you to Middleton!


The COPD grid ref is listed as 265 559 where as the actual loication of the cave is 26365 59883


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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2018, 12:45:25 pm »
The Brightcave grid reference in COPD (and the DCA cave registry) is SK 265 599? Which is admittedly not spot-on, but it's the 'correct' location for the entry. But I've updated the ten-figure grid reference to the online registry, so thanks for that. I've never been, so the exact location of the entrance is a mystery to me at this stage!

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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2018, 03:16:41 pm »
It's a great little trip PWhole, theres a lovely natural tube at the bottom. I can't remember if there was a draft down there, but certainly remains a feature in my mind.

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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2018, 04:13:09 pm »
Let's do it sometime - I've always fancied it, but it's a bit remote for us bus-travellers ;)

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Re: Brightgate Cave 14/01/2012
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2018, 04:20:25 pm »
Don't forget the trespass fee at brightgate farm £2.00 I think still and can do brightgate and tearsall no2 in the Same day  :thumbsup:
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