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Diving / Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Last post by Pitlamp on Today at 05:45:18 pm »
Thanks for the further thoughts. My job often involves speaking to large groups and I need to be able to articulate words well, so I guess a denture meanwhile will be pretty much essential.

My dentist is at Settle and (just a quick plug) they really have been good with me.
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BCA / Re: BCA stuff we voted on
« Last post by andrewmc on Today at 05:44:16 pm »
I'm struggling to understand how a couple of entirely local issues affects British caving *as a whole*.

I'd say the longest (dry) cave in the country is probably of national importance?

And then there's (at least) three more substantial systems of national significance with the wide gamut of access controls from open access, key access and permit access.
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Diving / Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Last post by Frog2 on Today at 05:28:15 pm »
Brilliant - thanks.

I presume you wore a denture meanwhile? Or did you just go "gappy" for 6 months?

Out of vanity did splash out on a denture but never really liked it/got used to it until just before the final bit of the implant!
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BCA / Re: BCA stuff we voted on
« Last post by droid on Today at 05:21:13 pm »
his is not aimed just at Charterhouse it could apply to certain Welsh issues which had significant effects on British caving. 

I'm struggling to understand how a couple of entirely local issues affects British caving *as a whole*.
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Caving Chat / Re: Free Diving
« Last post by Pitlamp on Today at 05:17:06 pm »
Regarding: " I'd say the Old Ing deep one almost certainly requires lead, or a heavy slab of rock from the streamway, to get you down there." - I'd suggest caution with this approach. At the downstreanm side you surface in a deep canal which involves swimming some distance. Swimming whilst holding a large rock is far from easy and if you drop it, how will you get back? How will you pull efficiently on the line with both hands whilst holding a gert big slab?

Old Ing is a high energy sump in flood, with a greater possibility of abbraided / weakened lines than some other examples suggested above. It's also more challenging than most of the other suggestions. There isn't much margin for error when free diving; I'd advise having the proper equipmend to keep you warm, neutrally buoyant and able to see well underwater.
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Caving Chat / Re: Free Diving
« Last post by nobrotson on Today at 05:08:00 pm »
My Dales favourite is definitely 68 series sump in Sleets Gill, it's probably the only sump I've ever actually enjoyed. You can actually see even without a mask if you're the first through and it feels very spacious and comfortable compared to Hydrophobia before it (nasty rocky crawling in fast flowing water).

The Friday 13th Sump in Penyghent is also a comfortable dive compared to the passage before and occasionally has a useable airspace, though vis is not good.

Rowten 8m sump is long and scary. Don't do it when hungover, you will hate it. Definitely wear a mask.

Never done Langstroth or Old Ing sumps.
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Diving / Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Last post by Pitlamp on Today at 04:55:07 pm »
Blimey - I'd forgotten all about that!

It should have gone in his obituary that I wrote. (Maybe it can do, when it's replicated in a certain journal to appear at some future stage?)
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Diving / Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Last post by tamarmole on Today at 04:40:08 pm »
Pitlamp, as a slight digression do you remember when Baz Araldited his false tooth in; his dentist was not impressed!
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Wales / Re: Caves of North Wales website
« Last post by cavemanmike on Today at 04:26:57 pm »
Just a quick update:
The original website “Caves of North Wales” is no longer editable, and has been deleted.
The new version (with one or two additions) can now be found here: cavesofnorthwales.org.uk kindly hosted on the Cambrian Caving Council website.
Cris ebbs kindly handed it all over to ccc.
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Diving / Re: Dentures and diving; advice sought
« Last post by Pitlamp on Today at 04:15:14 pm »
Brilliant - thanks.

I presume you wore a denture meanwhile? Or did you just go "gappy" for 6 months?
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