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Offline tamarmole

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Re: A balanced view?
« Reply #75 on: January 15, 2016, 12:16:28 pm »
I wish that I could find or remember where I saw a posting.
It was from France I think and was from a cave discoverer who was explaining that they found beautiful, well decorated caves.
To protect them they did not publish any details then gated, disguised and hid the entrances.
I suppose France is a much bigger country with more caves, but it seemed an extreme view to me.

Sounds like British mine explorers!

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Re: A balanced view?
« Reply #76 on: January 15, 2016, 12:59:42 pm »
I wish that I could find or remember where I saw a posting.
It was from France I think and was from a cave discoverer who was explaining that they found beautiful, well decorated caves.
To protect them they did not publish any details then gated, disguised and hid the entrances.
I suppose France is a much bigger country with more caves, but it seemed an extreme view to me.

Do you think that hasn't happened in the Dales?

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Re: A balanced view?
« Reply #77 on: January 15, 2016, 02:33:38 pm »
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Quote from: Wayland Smith on Today at 12:12:12 pm

I wish that I could find or remember where I saw a posting.
It was from France I think and was from a cave discoverer who was explaining that they found beautiful, well decorated caves.
To protect them they did not publish any details then gated, disguised and hid the entrances.
I suppose France is a much bigger country with more caves, but it seemed an extreme view to me.




Do you think that hasn't happened in the Dales?

Yorkshire yeti cave being one I know of.
Anything I say is represents my own opinion and not that of a any club/organisation that I am a member of (unless its good of course)

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Re: A balanced view?
« Reply #78 on: January 15, 2016, 08:14:48 pm »
Pitlamp states my particular attitude to this debate far better than I could.

'Evidence based argument'.
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Re: A balanced view?
« Reply #79 on: January 16, 2016, 01:37:13 pm »
Somebody on here mentioned that crags were never banned to climbers.In the late
60s some crags near Barnsley were discover by the climbers as a good spot to go.
The landowner soon put a stop to this by covering the holds with  Axel Grease and
as far as I know they still remain unclimbable  !

There not bad now, theres a few big pockets that still seem fresh even though its so old. Must have been good stuff!

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Re: A balanced view?
« Reply #80 on: January 18, 2016, 10:04:10 pm »
Somebody on here mentioned that crags were never banned to climbers.In the late
60s some crags near Barnsley were discover by the climbers as a good spot to go.
The landowner soon put a stop to this by covering the holds with  Axel Grease and
as far as I know they still remain unclimbable  !

There not bad now, theres a few big pockets that still seem fresh even though its so old. Must have been good stuff!

Gower and SE Wales climbing guide 1991, p.299: "Quakers Yard. Several climbs have been recorded here, but its proximity to the railway line and the presence of an unfriendly householder make it a 'no go area'. The lower part of the cliff has been smeared with axle grease and a 100 lb anvil hangs like a sword of Damocles over a groove line which might have proved the crags main attraction."

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Re: A balanced view?
« Reply #81 on: January 21, 2016, 09:15:17 am »
Would the website publish, if provided with one, a Reflections piece supporting the Crow access point of view?

you would have to go and ask them that, as its doubtful any of them can reply to you here  :coffee:

Yes they could reply here  :)

The answer to the question posed by Robin is, yes, the site will publish anything that is deemed publishable under the current law, and of course it really ought to relate to caving or mine-exploration. If you think anything published requires a response or an alternative opinion, the onus is on you to write it, keep it decent, and submit it. The door is always open.


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Re: A balanced view?
« Reply #82 on: January 21, 2016, 04:56:49 pm »
In fact an alternative view would be welcomed. I, for one, do not want to read just one side> I want to hear both sides so that I can make an informed choice.
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Re: A balanced view?
« Reply #83 on: April 02, 2016, 04:19:38 am »
Darkness Below are still waiting.

There have been several posts berating anyone that doesn't follow uncritically the Pro-CRoW line, why not try to put forward a reasoned counterblast to the DB article?
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Re: A balanced view?
« Reply #84 on: April 02, 2016, 07:52:59 am »
Indeed. And everything I stated on reply #81 still stands.

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Re: A balanced view?
« Reply #85 on: April 02, 2016, 11:29:32 am »
Peter, while you are here, DB need to update the Alltycrib/Talybont news. Just get it off aditnow or email me direct Damned if I can find any way to contact them on the site, this needs fixing.

Sorry about the off thread posting.
Glad NAMHO 2019 over.

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Re: A balanced view?
« Reply #86 on: April 02, 2016, 12:39:12 pm »

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Re: A balanced view?
« Reply #87 on: April 02, 2016, 07:31:17 pm »
Thanks Roy.

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Re: A balanced view?
« Reply #88 on: April 03, 2016, 06:08:52 pm »
Peter, while you are here, DB need to update the Alltycrib/Talybont news. Just get it off aditnow or email me direct Damned if I can find any way to contact them on the site, this needs fixing.

Sorry about the off thread posting.
Sorry Roy. Should have posted the contact page link for you. Here you go. http://darknessbelow.co.uk/?page_id=106
But I'll sort out the update using AditNow info anyway.