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2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« on: August 13, 2015, 03:04:16 pm »
Euro Speleo 2016 Tickets will be on sale very shortly (i.e probably within the next 24 hours) at: http://eurospeleo.uk/tickets/

For tickets purchased before 28 September, there is a special offer:

Weekly Ticket: £120 *** Special Offer - £60 - until 28 Sept ***
Concessions (Under 25s and Spouses): £80 *** Special Offer - £50 - until 28 Sept ***
Under 15s: £15
Under 6s: free
Camping / Overnight: £10 per person *** Special Offer - free until 28 Sept ***

As well as the first 100 tickets to be sold will be put in a draw to win their ticket for free.

So, buying a full-price ticket now means a saving of £70 (£60 on cheaper entry ticket and £10 on camping) plus a chance to get the whole lot back via the draw. !!!BARGAIN!!!

For anyone who is unsure what this is, it will be THE caving event of 2016, replacing Hidden Earth and attracting cavers from around the world. It will take place from 13-20 August with your ticket allowing you on-site at any time during the week.  A small selection of what is available is:
  • The major Dales caves pre-rigged with access for all delegates
  • All-day bar and evening entertainment ... all wee
  • Day-time lectures, Trade Hall and Competitions
  • Subsidised Gaping Gill Winch Descents
  • The fabulous Salle 3D Team showing all week
  • Pre-and Post-Conference Trips

Basically it'll be Hidden Earth on steroids!

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2015, 10:07:16 pm »
Brill!

PS Just a tad weird to be able to get ES2016 tickets before HE2015 ones!

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2015, 10:11:12 pm »

All-day bar and evening entertainment ... all wee

I suspect most cavers would prefer beer.

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2015, 10:12:18 pm »
Brill!

PS Just a tad weird to be able to get ES2016 tickets before HE2015 ones!

Don't think you can buy either yet?

http://eurospeleo.uk/tickets/
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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2015, 10:25:30 pm »
Race on!.....

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2015, 07:22:16 am »
Are there any details yet of what the spouses get for their £50/£80?
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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2015, 08:26:51 am »
Are there any details yet of what the spouses get for their £50/£80?
Exactly the same as a full-price ticket, just at a somewhat reduced rate. :thumbsup:

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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2015, 12:32:49 pm »
Brill!

PS Just a tad weird to be able to get ES2016 tickets before HE2015 ones!

Yes, a bit strange!  There was a misunderstanding over who was supposed to be handling the Hidden Earth booking form this year. It was only relatively recently that I found out that it was me. Hidden Earth bookings will open sometime this week I hope, and definitely by next Monday. Announcements will be made on the ukcaving.com and Hidden Earth forums, and on the BCRA Notices List when the booking form is available.
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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2015, 01:46:51 pm »
Got mine  :bounce:   ;D   8) 

Anyone else coming   :kiss2:

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2015, 05:00:46 pm »
Early bird tickets are for the whole week only. Will there be daily tickets available later on? If so, what would their price be?

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2015, 05:51:42 pm »
Early bird tickets are for the whole week only. Will there be daily tickets available later on? If so, what would their price be?
I was thinking exactly the same thing. I certainly can't commit to a week this far in advance!
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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2015, 06:17:44 pm »
Well that's the wife's birthday present sorted  :chair:

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2015, 09:07:42 pm »
Yep, ticket sales are now live with apologies for it taking slightly longer than I thought.

Remember one of the first 100 tickets purchased will be free (via prize draw) and any (non-child) tickets purchased before 28 Sept will attract a substantial discount.

There will be day tickets available but the week-long ticket will represent a substantial saving and, combined with free camping at the moment too, I'd recommend snapping up the week-long ticket (especially if you live near enough to be able to pop over for the mid-week lectures and entertainment that interest you ... there really will be a lot on e.g. a different Salle 3D film every evening, a differently themed evening party each night.)

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2015, 09:32:17 pm »
Yep, ticket sales are now live with apologies for it taking slightly longer than I thought.

Remember one of the first 100 tickets purchased will be free (via prize draw) and any (non-child) tickets purchased before 28 Sept will attract a substantial discount.

There will be day tickets available but the week-long ticket will represent a substantial saving and, combined with free camping at the moment too, I'd recommend snapping up the week-long ticket (especially if you live near enough to be able to pop over for the mid-week lectures and entertainment that interest you ... there really will be a lot on e.g. a different Salle 3D film every evening, a differently themed evening party each night.)

How many day tickets would you have to purchase before you'd spent more than the early bird week ticket?

For some of us £110 (for a couple) is quite a commitment, and it'd be really annoying to find that we only wanted to go for, say, 2 days, and that that would have been cheaper than paying in advance.




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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2015, 10:40:26 pm »
For some of us £110 (for a couple) is quite a commitment, and it'd be really annoying to find that we only wanted to go for, say, 2 days, and that that would have been cheaper than paying in advance.
I understand this and will get back to you soon.

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2015, 09:20:15 am »
A query re: the concession tickets...

My initial assumption was that for two partners at the same address, one would pay standard, the second would pay concession. However, when I went to buy our tickets I found the form to be a bit ambiguous:

* Standard: Select this unless you meet one of the other criteria.
* Concession: Under 25s (If you will be 24 years old or younger on 13th August 2016) OR Spouses at the same address (ie. a partner, living at the same address).

(my emphasis)

Technically, we both meet that "other criteria", and spouses is given in plural (though it does say "a" partner); also no mention of "at the same address as a standard ticket holder" or similar - does that mean we're both eligible for a concession ticket?

I don't want to tick the concession box for both, only to get stung for a full price standard ticket at a later date; likewise, it would be a bit of a bummer to get a standard only to later find out I could have got it cheaper (I'm from Yorkshire, what can I say).

Can anyone offer some clarification? :)

Disclaimer: I haven't actually gone through the process of trying to put both as concession to see what happens and if it tells me off or not, because of the slightly bizarre format of entering payment details before the second person details, so apologies if I could have answered my own question. It might also be useful for others to know the answer though...


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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2015, 09:44:34 am »
@CatM: I implemented the bookings system... Text is now clarified so it should be clearer. Hope that is OK?
You should book one full ticket and, if eligible, one concession ticket.

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2015, 10:20:03 am »
Can the Banquet be booked at a later date than the entry tickets?

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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2015, 11:52:45 am »
@CatM: I implemented the bookings system... Text is now clarified so it should be clearer. Hope that is OK?
You should book one full ticket and, if eligible, one concession ticket.

Cool, that's what I initially assumed... Just didn't want to do the wrong thing. Thanks for the clarification!  :thumbsup:

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2015, 02:43:42 pm »
Who's doing the 'Banquet'? Is it an outside caterer or the Dalesbridge Centre?

My reason for asking is that ULSA was ripped off for a very expensive yet poor quality buffet* by the Dalesbridge Centre back in March, and not only would i personally not like to experience that again, I fear it will be an embarrassment for the British caving community if that was served to our visiting guests from overseas. I'd strongly recommend an outside caterer if possible, or at least get a guarantee of quality from the Dalesbridge Centre beforehand. 

Sure it'll be a great week regardless.

[* Should have been a warm 3 course buffet for about £20 per head. 1st course: cold fish, cold potatoes, cold quiche, and limp salad - not what you want after a cold day caving. 2nd course: Coffee, just coffee. 3rd course: small portion of soggy shop bought profiteroles. No second helpings and no take aways allowed. Then to add insult to injury they tried to charge us extra claiming more people had turned up than had paid, despite there being loads of left overs.]

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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2015, 05:24:28 pm »
@bat: The banquet must be pre-booked and has limited numbers so we would really prefer it was booked now. But if you can't commit to the banquet yet please go ahead and book tickets. You'll need to email the bookings secretary later to amend your booking and add the banquet.

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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2015, 05:27:11 pm »
@Mike Butcher: The catering is going to be handled by an outside caterer who specialises in this kind of thing.  So you can expect something well worth the £20.

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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2015, 05:32:16 pm »
Regarding day rates: The cost of running the event is around the same per person per week irrespective of the number of days they actually attend. At this stage we do intend to offer day tickets on the door but we won't be able to set pricing for them until much closer to the event when we know that we can break even.

We do also have a capacity limit at the venue which we do not expect to reach...  However, if the event is too(!) successful we may not be able to offer day tickets at all.

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2015, 05:51:35 pm »
Just took a look at the website - http://eurospeleo.uk/about/

One thing struck me, unless I missed it somehow.

Would it be an idea to say when it is. I'm sure it used to but doesn't seem to now?
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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2015, 06:08:24 pm »
Just took a look at the website - http://eurospeleo.uk/about/

One thing struck me, unless I missed it somehow.

Would it be an idea to say when it is. I'm sure it used to but doesn't seem to now?

It does on the home page:
http://eurospeleo.uk/index.php

But it would be sense to put it also on the "about" page because that's where everyone (well, me and Bottlebank at least) expects to find it.

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2015, 06:24:27 pm »
http://www.eurospeleo.uk


Cheers!

All is revealed! Knew I'd seen it somewhere.

Could really do with being on the other pages as well, or at least an obvious link back to the home page? I clicked through the other four looking for it but didn't click the logo which takes you to the home page.
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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2015, 11:38:01 pm »
Booked ;D thanks, will sort out Banquet later if there are still places.

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2015, 06:04:10 pm »
Just tried to book tickets, but I get a server error when I click on Buy Tickets Now on the tickets page.

An error occurred during a connection to bookings.british-caving.org.uk. The OCSP server suggests trying again later. (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_try_server_later)

Will try again later :)

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2015, 06:17:11 pm »
We've had some reports this happens intermittently with FireFox.

Either try with Internet Explorer or as you say, try again later.
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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2015, 07:31:38 pm »
We've had some reports this happens intermittently with FireFox.

Either try with Internet Explorer or as you say, try again later.
Yup - works with IE.
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« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2015, 07:41:03 pm »
An error occurred during a connection to bookings.british-caving.org.uk. The OCSP server suggests trying again later. (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_try_server_later)
Will try again later :)

There's a problem with the web server run by StartSSL that uses OCSP[1] to verify that SSL/TLS certificates haven't been revoked.

It shows up not just for Duncan and myself, but for this well regarded SSL/TLS testing website.

https://dev.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=bookings.british-caving.org.uk&s=31.25.186.126&hideResults=on

OCSP ERROR: Exception: Read timed out [http://ocsp.startssl.com/sub/class1/server/ca]

If it works in IE, but not in recent Firefox, that's because IE isn't, by default[2], as security conscious.

To (temporarily, of course) disable OCSP stapling in FF, go to the about:config page and set "security.ssl.enable_ocsp_stapling" to false.

[1] Online Certificate Status Protocol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Certificate_Status_Protocol

[2] http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ieinternals/archive/2011/04/07/enabling-certificate-revocation-check-failure-warnings-in-internet-explorer.aspx

"However, if a given certificate specifies a CRL or OCSP URL, but the revocation check cannot be completed (say, because the Certificate Authority’s server is not reachable), Internet Explorer will not notify the user."

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« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2015, 07:45:49 pm »
OCSP ERROR: Exception: Read timed out [http://ocsp.startssl.com/sub/class1/server/ca]

It's a known problem.

https://forum.startcom.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=16198

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2015, 07:54:36 pm »
To (temporarily, of course) disable OCSP stapling in FF, go to the about:config page and set "security.ssl.enable_ocsp_stapling" to false.
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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2015, 08:10:17 pm »
Hi Alan,

Thanks for the info.

As you say it is because FireFox is doing it right and IE is lax.

Disable stapling in FireFox is probably beyond most people and not necessarily a good idea so I opted to explain the work around.

I'm hoping startSSL will get their act together otherwise I'll be get certs from a new provider.
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« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2015, 08:11:06 pm »
PS

Glad you persevered Duncan  :clap2:
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« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2015, 08:34:26 pm »
Disable stapling in FireFox is probably beyond most people and not necessarily a good idea so I opted to explain the work around.

It's only a work-around if you are running MS Windows.
 
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I'm hoping startSSL will get their act together otherwise I'll be get certs from a new provider.

Sounds like a plan. They are cheap, but then you get what you pay for. I have a free certificate from them for one of my vanity domains and had noticed the issue a couple of times recently, but it went away quickly. A few hours it seemed to have become permanent, though it's better now.

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2015, 08:45:46 pm »
PS

Glad you persevered Duncan  :clap2:
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« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2015, 08:52:56 pm »
All booked - see you there!
Good man! For those who haven't yet joined you ....

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2015, 09:26:33 pm »
Regarding day rates: The cost of running the event is around the same per person per week irrespective of the number of days they actually attend. At this stage we do intend to offer day tickets on the door but we won't be able to set pricing for them until much closer to the event when we know that we can break even.
Offer really cheap deals for people that can commit and then sting those who don't have the easy life or maybe don't want to/can't attend for a full week. Strange logic. I'll see how things go and if a day or two is overpriced I won't bother, assuming I'm even capable of attending by then.
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« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2015, 09:39:57 pm »
Regarding day rates: The cost of running the event is around the same per person per week irrespective of the number of days they actually attend. At this stage we do intend to offer day tickets on the door but we won't be able to set pricing for them until much closer to the event when we know that we can break even.
Offer really cheap deals for people that can commit and then sting those who don't have the easy life or maybe don't want to/can't attend for a full week. Strange logic. I'll see how things go and if a day or two is overpriced I won't bother, assuming I'm even capable of attending by then.
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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2015, 09:16:31 pm »
Just bought my tickets for 2016 ... all very exciting!

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« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2015, 01:06:47 pm »
STOP PRESS Buy your ticket at Hidden Earth to be entered in the prize
draw for a free ticket. Winner to be announced at the closing ceremony.

The winner from the first 100 tickets bought will also be announced at the
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STOP PRESS. The prices go up after Hidden Earth.
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« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2015, 01:15:59 pm »
James and I have ours - very excited for next years fun!

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2016, 04:06:17 pm »
So do cavers still need to jump through the usual hoops to get hold of Leck Fell permits, or can we just rock up and go caving? :)

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2016, 05:55:58 pm »
'rock up and go caving'. LOL. If overseas Eurospeleo events are a framework to go on, trips to caves will be ticketed and scheduled and people will be given a time slot to visit them, plus will be required to register in the morning plus deregister in the evening to prove their safe return.  Just a guess, happy if someone who knows the score can flesh out the details though....
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« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2016, 07:48:08 pm »
Ah well, if it stops me having to queue behind 15 people at the bottom of a pitch then it's worth it!

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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2016, 09:04:51 pm »
'rock up and go caving'. LOL. If overseas Eurospeleo events are a framework to go on, trips to caves will be ticketed and scheduled and people will be given a time slot to visit them, plus will be required to register in the morning plus deregister in the evening to prove their safe return.  Just a guess, happy if someone who knows the score can flesh out the details though....

"The score" is still being planned but rest assured the details will be made available once they are finalised, however the "permit system" will still be in place but the permits will only be available to Eurospeleo delegates and as the Cap'n already suggested above, it is likely that delegates will need to do some form of booking in and out, if only to ensure that people are out of the caves...
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Re: 2016 Euro Speleo Tickets
« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2016, 09:58:01 pm »
'rock up and go caving'. LOL.

Surely isn't that what is supposed to happen when you want to go caving in the dales? (without the laughing - of course)