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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2018, 04:31:59 pm »
I'm so sad to hear this news.  Tony (and for those that don't know, he posted under rhychydwr1) was a prolific poster on the forum (3161).  He kept the Moderation Team on their toes from time to time however was also a great contributor - helping with updating 'Calendar of events' for which I am grateful, keeping us informed about what was happening internationally, had a deep of knowledge on caving/mining books and of course posted the odd joke or two...

Rest in Peace, Tony and our sincere condolences to Tony's family & friends.

I will leave you with one of rhychydwr1's classic jokes:

If you are here for the yodelling lesson...

please form an orderly, orderly, orderly, orderly, orderly, orderly, queue!



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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2018, 04:49:42 pm »
Rhy chy dwr apparently translates as "too hot water" & his profile pic was Yuri Gagarin - typical of his sense of humour...

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2018, 06:03:34 pm »
Tony once told me that "groove where the water runs" was the best local translation

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2018, 06:25:44 pm »
Very sad news. When I started caving, collecting his local guides was one of the things that enabled my mate and I to discover and explore the local caves. I often enjoyed his little interjections here and I always wondered about the truth of his fabled gate collection.

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2018, 07:03:34 pm »
Tony once told me that "groove where the water runs" was the best local translation
Yes, the more correct form is rhych y dwr - water furrow - but the other suits!

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2018, 08:23:43 pm »
That's a real shame. Must have been just year or so ago I gave him some material for one of his books. RIP.

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2018, 10:57:25 am »
When I started caving I discovered there was a rag called the Mendip Caver. It was roughly printed and used to arrive as a rolled up, often damp and tattered, collection of pages. I still have the copies I kept as a schoolboy. The OR used to write regularly for him and he provided the only Mendip news I got (in fact probably one of the few times Tony got plagiarised was when as a callow 16 year old I wrote an article for the Speleologist on Mendip Discoveries in 1967 basically lifting all the material from the Mendip Caver). He seriously antagonised the DSS who never forgave him for the Caves of Devon although it remains the only guide to the region to this day. He sent me a copy of the Concise Caves of Devon to review and I tore it shreds - metaphorically. The next edition contained an erratum slip acknowledging my assistance!  He started to appear at Mendip events in recent years sending in photos for the competition (including a memorable one of him on a mobility scooter) and I wondered what had happened this year as we didn't seem him at the awards or the digging awards.  He will be  missed as will: 'There is a book'.

Yes I used to write up stuff for him in the 60's. My first decent discovery was at The East Series in Holwell Cave and appeared as a survey in Mendip Caver in Dec 1964. I seem also to remember my hopelessly inaccurate  sketch survey of Shatter Cave which prompted our notorious dig in WL Cave that accidentally joined the two caves together. ( thoroughly scaring a group in Shatter at the time, Willie Stanton thought it all amusing ). I remember reading about the discovery of Swildon's Four " a high wide and hansom streamway ". Tony had a way with words though was sometimes quoted as " Much ADO about nothing ". He could be very naughty at times provoking confusion by saying there was a mechanical digger or something in Cheddar Gorge recently here on the forum . I last spoke to him at the Mendip digging awards last year. The ultimate character flaw is to be bland. Tony was never that.

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2018, 01:47:32 pm »
 :( This is sad indeed - I knew Tony for many many years and his services to caving, particularly his plethora of regional guides, will be a fitting epitaph.   Many people will not know that under the guise of 'downsizing', he very generously donated heaps of material (valuable in retail terms) to various caving club libraries.  The GSG for example, were given 47 OS Explorer 2 1/2 ins to the mile maps which, at £8 or so each, was worth a tidy sum.  He also gave us all his photo-copied notes compiled during the writing of 'Caves of Scotland', some three box loads.
If he was sometimes controversial and/or sarcastic in print, this did not detract from his love of caves and caving literature.  He will be missed.
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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2018, 03:43:03 pm »

Tony and I had our differences and he did upset a number of people along the way such as infringing copyright, in other ways he could be very generous . A character all said and done he will be missed by many , we often had words . I would't give him freebies as he was always out to make a quick buck.

I am sad to hear he has gone, in spite of the above he was a mine of information and was willing to share that knowledge , of course for a price but that was Tony

RIP

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2018, 12:16:45 pm »
Gosh. Sorry to hear about that. We'd corresponded on a few occasions and I have one or two of his books.
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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2018, 06:39:03 pm »
The British Caving Library has benefitted greatly from Tony's generosity over the last 10 years.  He would often turn up unannounced with a pile of extraordinary offerings of all sorts and from all countries. Hidden Earths were always an opportunity for him to donate a pile of publications for the Library - only to collect as much again from our "Lucky Dip" boxes to sell or give away to others. Only a couple of weeks ago I was making plans to meet him in S. Wales in March to collect another box of goodies.

Many years ago Tony also provided the BCRA Library with a box of caving slides from his exploits many countries.  When BCL was asked if we had any photos of discoveries made by British cavers in Romania in the 1970s' - we checked in Tony's photo collection and there they were!  From these we were able to provide the illustrations needed by the Romanian publishers of a book on the caves.  The Library was acknowledged in the book - but really it should have been Tony.

I also was an avid reader of the "Mendip Caver" in the days when I was Librarian of Orpheus C.C. in the 1960's, '70's and 80's and we also have a complete set in the British Caving Library.  It was a fascinating scandal sheet with all the news, including some that people didn't seem to want printed.

I'd heard tales of Tony's early caving on Mendip: catching a bus out from Bristol and then pushing his caving gear up the road in an old pram 'cos it was too heavy to carry.  Wonder if anyone ever took a photo of this?

Definitely an "original" who will be much missed.

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2018, 05:12:12 pm »
Rumour has it that the fellow is not actually dead.

Perhaps before anything else is written somebody should ascertain the facts.

So who is Mendipgirl anyway ? Perhaps he/she would like to introduce themselves.


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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2018, 06:23:32 pm »
I have it on good authority that to my immense relief Tony is very much alive.

Given we have lost so many these last few years, this sad news was not questioned.

Mendipgirl; I very much look forward to shaking you warmly by the throat for bestowing upon me the news I had lost a respected pal.

Love, Light and Peace

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2018, 06:26:03 pm »
Rumour has it that the fellow is not actually dead.



According to his profile, he was last active on this forum today at 01:21:27 am.

I suspect that, wherever he is, he's enjoying following this thread...
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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2018, 06:36:26 pm »
I have it on good authority that to my immense relief Tony is very much alive.

Given we have lost so many these last few years, this sad news was not questioned.

Mendipgirl; I very much look forward to shaking you warmly by the throat for bestowing upon me the news I had lost a respected pal.

Love, Light and Peace

Pat

I wouldn't do that - it would make this thread valid again! I'd lay money on Mendipgirl being Tony!

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2018, 08:51:59 pm »
timing fits ;D

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2018, 09:53:02 am »
I recon I could have done better:

"It is with great sadness that I have to report the death of Roy Fellows who last night dropped dead at karate, fortunately for his club he had paid his subs at the start of the session. This morning friends gathered at his home and launched a collection which raised £3.72. There was some squabbling about who would have his car, but on discovering that its a Skoda they all shook hands. etc"
Glad NAMHO 2019 over.

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2018, 10:53:45 am »
So has anyone plucked up the courage to try to contact Tony yet? As the late, great, Ronnie Scott used to say in his nightly patter between acts at his club, "let's all join hands and try to contact the living".

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2018, 01:46:20 pm »
Looks like Tony's death has been exaggerated.
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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2018, 02:58:25 pm »
I have it on good authority that to my immense relief Tony is very much alive.

Given we have lost so many these last few years, this sad news was not questioned.

Mendipgirl; I very much look forward to shaking you warmly by the throat for bestowing upon me the news I had lost a respected pal.

Love, Light and Peace

Pat


I hope your right but has anyone actually spoken to him? It is possible that Mendip Girl is actually Ann Oldham???

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2018, 03:31:49 pm »
Tony is obviously in a superposition state, neither dead or alive until someone opens the box.

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2018, 06:05:05 pm »
i'd still like his hard drive  :o

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #47 on: December 20, 2018, 11:15:02 am »
 ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #48 on: December 20, 2018, 12:07:11 pm »
Tony is obviously in a superposition state, neither dead or alive until someone opens the box.

Ah, Schrodingers caver........ :smartass:

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Re: Tony Oldham RIP
« Reply #49 on: December 20, 2018, 12:36:27 pm »
If true, what an outrageous stunt.  Ukcaving is not sure whether to ban Tony for being dead or still alive.   ;)