Haha this is why you don't type things up at the early hours of the morning. I'll get my section updated, I am a group rep!
As I understand it, technically the group reps should be there representing the views of groups, that is clubs (and access control bodies), and the individual reps should be representing the views of individual cavers. I agree entirely with you, and through lack of historical transparency it's difficult to judge whether previous group/individual reps actually are actually voting in line with those they should be representing. I'm hoping that with increased transparency in voting that very soon minutes will all show exactly who has voted for what, and when voting for group/individual reps it might be useful to look back at someones voting record (similar to how theyworkforyou.com shows the MPs voting records). I think at the most recent AGM the option to vote to not fill a role on council was a good option if you don't think the candidates would represent you appropriately.
They should also act as an access point to council for individuals/groups if their issues don't better fit into one of the officers roles (probably very few issues that don't to be honest).
I guess the weird thing with my theory about how that should work is that individual cavers can vote for who the group reps are and vice versa, so maybe I know nothing.
I agree that this could and probably should be a lot clearer. There is a vacant page within the manual of operations that realistically is what should govern the role of an individual rep should do. Interestingly there isn't an equivalent page (blank or otherwise) for group reps.
I hold dual roles so that I can represent young cavers with a vote: Y+D officer isn't a voting role on council, there's an argument to be made that it should be, there is also the argument to be made that council is already too large and unwieldy and fewer voting roles might not be a bad thing. (This paragraph will almost certainly derail the thread)
At the most recent council meeting Andrew Mcleod was co-opted by council as the convener of the constitution/manual of operations reform working group, so I may just nudge this one in his direction, and someone within the team can put together a proposal to amend this ready for the upcoming AGM.
No problem at all with the comments; clear, calm and open conversation is the best way of getting the BCA to progress, and I encourage people to challenge me (and other council members) on things where they can (in a reasonable and calm manner please!).