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NAMHO 2021
« on: July 01, 2021, 10:14:17 am »
Kit all packed, Landy fuelled, off to NAMHO.     ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2021, 10:17:17 am »
Excellent, I shall be on my way tomorrow!

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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2021, 10:36:47 am »
Chaos reigns here as we try to get all our camping kit, caving kit and food (oh – and wine) ready! (Not to mention the lost map.)

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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2021, 10:42:54 am »
I am their Saturday Cambrian mine upper road parking in the morning then pontesford colliery surface walk afternoon anyone on any of them ?

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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2021, 10:51:36 am »
I will be loading up my Landie tomorrow.

I also will be the only attendee who has got a haircut and had a shave especially for the event.

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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2021, 11:56:24 am »
Is anybody staying at the Green Caravan Camp Site, Wentnor?

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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2021, 12:29:29 pm »
Yes. I'll be in the green Series IIA Landie.

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Re: NAMHO 2021
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2021, 02:34:50 pm »
I'm afraid I will only be driving to Cambrian each day to lead trips. I note old and new friends on my trips though, so looking forward to it.
Frankly I am pissed off to death with masks which make me itch and all the other stuff, hence my limited participation. Would bet that I am not on my own here.

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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2021, 03:06:45 pm »
I am their Saturday Cambrian mine upper road parking in the morning then pontesford colliery surface walk afternoon anyone on any of them ?

I'm on the Saturday Morning Cambrian trip.

I'm staying at the Old School Campsite.

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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2021, 03:08:52 pm »
I'm afraid I will only be driving to Cambrian each day to lead trips. I note old and new friends on my trips though, so looking forward to it.
Frankly I am pissed off to death with masks which make me itch and all the other stuff, hence my limited participation. Would bet that I am not on my own here.

I have to wear one all day every day at work. Will be very pleased when it's no longer required but our Co. are currently saying they are probably going to keep the requirement in place at work even if it's lifted nationally  :unsure:

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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2021, 03:32:39 pm »
I'm afraid I will only be driving to Cambrian each day to lead trips. I note old and new friends on my trips though, so looking forward to it.
Frankly I am pissed off to death with masks which make me itch and all the other stuff, hence my limited participation. Would bet that I am not on my own here.

I have to wear one all day every day at work. Will be very pleased when it's no longer required but our Co. are currently saying they are probably going to keep the requirement in place at work even if it's lifted nationally  :unsure:

If my work suggested such a thing, I'd tell them politely where to shove it.

In the meantime Roy, an itchy face seems fair grounds for exemption, if you want to pander to the rules, or just don't bother; certainly around here nobody gives the slightest toss about it any more (though I do keep a Buff in the car for the rare occasions where one is still requested  :halo: )

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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2021, 03:39:28 pm »
Hello everyone do I have to where one on underground and surface trips ?  Because I am not exempt via having facial hair so kind of doesn’t work  :halo:

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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2021, 03:40:30 pm »
I am their Saturday Cambrian mine upper road parking in the morning then pontesford colliery surface walk afternoon anyone on any of them ?

I'm on the Saturday Morning Cambrian trip.

I'm staying at the Old School Campsite.

Am in the wife’s white  bmw this time so you shall see me mate  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2021, 05:14:53 pm »
I'm leading the Cambrian trips from the lower carpark; looking foward to meeting the delegates.

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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2021, 05:39:31 pm »
Following on from Pete Hall. The latest research from Addenbrookes (Cambridge) suggests that normal hospital masks are no good (ie about as good as a cloth mask, a buff or even a scarf). The implication is that the plastic face shields (which would be much more user friendly if they didn't fog up) are just as good. If you have a beard, and you have to wear a mask, I'd go for a face shield or a buff. Or invent a medical/psychological reason for not doing so - wouldn't 'I'm a caver/mine explorer' be sufficient excuse? Everyone thinks we're mad anyway - how much worse can it get?

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« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2021, 07:38:16 pm »
Following on from Pete Hall. The latest research from Addenbrookes (Cambridge) suggests that normal hospital masks are no good (ie about as good as a cloth mask, a buff or even a scarf). The implication is that the plastic face shields (which would be much more user friendly if they didn't fog up) are just as good. If you have a beard, and you have to wear a mask, I'd go for a face shield or a buff. Or invent a medical/psychological reason for not doing so - wouldn't 'I'm a caver/mine explorer' be sufficient excuse? Everyone thinks we're mad anyway - how much worse can it get?

I think you have this wrong the mask is to protect other people from your breath not the other way round. If you want protection you need the better mask

As for NAMHO - the Guides can refuse to take you on trips unless there is an exemption . Bear in mind its to protect someonelse from you not the other way round

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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2021, 08:18:18 pm »
Thanks Mike  I will happily wear one to keep the peace !

Sounds more easy going to wear a mask ,  than what I am use to mine exploring here in the East Midlands  :dig:

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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2021, 08:35:46 pm »
Thanks Mike  I will happily wear one to keep the peace !

Sounds more easy going to wear a mask ,  than what I am use to mine exploring here in the East Midlands  :dig:

Its not to keep the peace but remain in line with the guideliness. The walks are outdoors thats not a problem. This is an organised event and NAMHO as a National Orgnisation has a duty of care. Otherwise this event like many could have been cancelled, by following the guidelines  the event is able to go ahead. Some things have obviously been dropped like the social evenings, accommodation and catering Ultimately its being kind to one another , the D varient is on the increase and unfortunately people do and have suffered. 

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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2021, 09:18:19 pm »
I stick broadly to what I've said in the past (though the evidence has changed, so I may have moved the emphasis). The reality is that simple masks are of very limited use (whether to protect you or the people around you). FFP3 masks will protect you from virus in the atmosphere. FFP2 masks may do so too, but probably less well.

I haven't seen anything that talks about how to keep the viruses you're shedding from reaching your compatriots. It should make sense that high level masks should be better than cheap ones until you think about the way that they supposedly work. At this point, it gets a bit difficult....

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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2021, 09:34:41 pm »
At the end of the day, it is the guidelines that we have to follow. Whether the science is watertight or not doesn't really matter.

So I shall not worry at all, just do what I am told.  ;D

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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2021, 12:28:34 pm »
Enjoy everyone, hope you all have a great trip/conference
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2021, 12:30:49 pm »
Are you not joining Tom ?

I am looking forward to putting faces to names .

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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2021, 02:04:41 pm »
And so the adventure begins!  :clap2: :bounce: :thumbsup:

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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2021, 02:13:29 pm »
And so the adventure begins!  :clap2: :bounce: :thumbsup:

Chris.

Have a good one I’ll keep my eyes open for the series 2 look for Kim’s white bmw  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2021, 02:45:27 pm »
And so the adventure begins!  :clap2: :bounce: :thumbsup:

Chris.

Any journey in a Land Rover is an adventure!  ;D

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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2021, 03:50:22 pm »
Are you not joining Tom ?

I am looking forward to putting faces to names .
Disappointed not to....
When I saw the original line up of proposed events (haven't paid attention if changed or not) some of the Snailbeach trips in particular looked absolutely fantastic. I'm definitely up for a good SRT through trip (or even there and backs), Puls I'd be keen to meet some of the folks on this site actually underground - not just via a keyboard.

Anyway, hope you all enjoy NAMHO 2021
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« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2021, 05:05:18 pm »
Just got back after a really excellent weekend.   The Shropshire guys managed to pull off a great event in spite of trying conditions. 

Can't wait for next year's NAMHO which is based on the North York Moors.

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« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2021, 05:55:50 pm »
I was their Saturday and have to say had a cracking time 2 great trips got to visit the conference site not a single issue all day run extremely well through the difficult times  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2021, 06:57:46 pm »
I will be loading up my Landie tomorrow.

I also will be the only attendee who has got a haircut and had a shave especially for the event.

Chris.

Having seen (and heard)  your creation I am now suffering extreme Landy envy (although for some strange reason not haircut and shave envy).

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« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2021, 07:01:39 pm »
Having seen (and heard)  your creation I am now suffering extreme Landy envy (although for some strange reason not haircut and shave envy).

 ;D  Thanks!  On the down side, I have to repair the indicator switch, and managed 20mpg on average. You no doubt have no repairs and have managed a slightly more economic trip.

An excellent weekend, very well run, and some great mines on offer. The only missing piece was the food / beer social, but we can hardly blame that on the organisers!  And it was great to catch up with friends old and new.

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« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2021, 08:37:52 pm »
and managed 20mpg on average.

It's a V8 then?

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« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2021, 08:51:20 pm »
Owning a landrover and being a caver seems a cliche to me, a bit like having a beard, eating frie-ups and wearing camouflage trousers; is this what being a caver still is in the C21st, or was that last century mostly?

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« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2021, 08:59:50 pm »
20mpg must of been following a lorry to get that much “slip streaming “ the hole way back

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« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2021, 10:22:06 am »
Just another vote of thanks to the organisers for enabling the event to go ahead. I had a great time until unfortunately having to head home on Saturday afternoon due to illness of a family member (not covid related!).

Apologies for not managing to meet up with many of you as I'd hoped.

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« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2021, 11:03:17 am »
Just another vote of thanks to the organisers for enabling the event to go ahead. I had a great time until unfortunately having to head home on Saturday afternoon due to illness of a family member (not covid related!).

Apologies for not managing to meet up with many of you as I'd hoped.

I wondered why I hadn't seen you again after you had arrived. I hope your family member is on the mend
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« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2021, 11:33:13 am »
Was good to finally meet you Mike thanks for bringing my books along  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2021, 12:37:13 pm »
Owning a landrover and being a caver seems a cliche to me, a bit like having a beard, eating frie-ups and wearing camouflage trousers; is this what being a caver still is in the C21st, or was that last century mostly?

I didn't see anyone wearing camouflage trousers - but then again I suppose that's the point  :shrug:

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« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2021, 01:47:42 pm »
Owning a landrover and being a caver seems a cliche to me, a bit like having a beard, eating frie-ups and wearing camouflage trousers; is this what being a caver still is in the C21st, or was that last century mostly?

NAMHO is for mine explorers. There are a huge number of beards, and a fair number of Land Rovers.

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