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Title: Posting Photographs
Post by: Badlad on January 30, 2016, 08:32:49 pm
There are two ways of posting a photograph on Ukcaving.

The first is best for larger or good quality images but they must already be hosted on the web somewhere, the second can be uploaded from your PC but must be small, low resolution images. 

First way:   The image needs to already be on the web somewhere. If its a photo on your own pc - then you'll need to upload it to the web using a site such as flickr, photobucket etc.
 
Once its up on the web, you then need to find the address (or URL) of the picture.

You can find this by right-clicking the picture and clicking "copy image address" or highlight and 'copy' the URL in properties.

Then back in your UKcaving post,

You need to press the (http://ukcaving.com/board/Themes/default/images/bbc/img.gif) button which will give you two image tags - an 'open' tag and a 'close' tag.

Code: [Select]
[img][/img]
Then you paste the url of the picture between the tags.

eg
Code: [Select]
[img]http://flickr.blah.blah.blah.jpg[/img]
You can also resize the image by inserting width=??? after the first 'img', for example,

Code: [Select]
[img width=300]IMAGE URL[/img]

Second way: You can upload a photograph directly from your device.  Clip the 'Attachments and other options' located below the 'post reply' box.  This brings up an 'Attach - choose file' option, where you can find the desired photograph on your device.

Unfortunately the image size is limited to a maximum of 10Mb so your photograph must be resized before trying to post it.  There is also a limit to 10 photographs per post.  The photo is an attachment and doesn't appear in preview.

The photograph will be a medium thumbnail like this which will expand once clicked.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Brains on January 30, 2016, 08:50:18 pm
Quote
This brings up an 'Attach - choose file' option, where you can find the desired photograph on your device.
Cant see it from the reply function... Just get 3 tick boxes:
Notify me of replies.
Return to this topic.
Don't use smileys.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Pegasus on January 30, 2016, 09:20:56 pm
Hi Brains, underneath the 'Notify me of replies' etc etc did you see an Attach: with a box below??  That's what I see....

Thanks, Pegasus
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Brains on January 30, 2016, 10:10:32 pm
Nope, just the three tick boxes:

Notify me of replies.
Return to this topic.
Don't use smileys.

The attachments and other options text acts as a toggle with a + or - icon when to be expanded or reduced, below this is the text "shortcuts: hit shift+alt+s to submit/post or shift+alt+p to preview "

No sign of an attach option  :down:
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Roger W on January 30, 2016, 10:14:50 pm
I get the same as Brains.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Caver Keith on January 30, 2016, 10:56:58 pm
So do I.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Pegasus on January 30, 2016, 11:05:31 pm
Thanks Guys.

Anyone else??

Maybe only Mods/Admins can see the attach/browse box??

One for Q on Monday  :)

Cheers, Pegasus
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: bograt on January 30, 2016, 11:47:13 pm
Yup!!, there is no  'Attachments and other options'  there ??--. (at least, not for me -)
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: bograt on January 30, 2016, 11:58:16 pm
Maybe this is a good place to experiment--, lets try dropbox --:
(https://photos-2.dropbox.com/t/2/AABbHrih_x2rp1uWuIy5Q2Au039QxYdEOEiop8WSqhVwUw/12/75159257/jpeg/32x32/1/_/1/2/Boston%20City%20Flow.jpg/EIaAqToYIiACKAI/7GWchCh6JZM638y7S2prF6KUaq3Fdn7in3ltZ2Px3_M?size=1280x960&size_mode=3)
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: bograt on January 31, 2016, 12:03:13 am
OK, I know its not caving related, but it shows dropbox links work!!, anyone got others? (we know about all the photo-etc.)
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: teabag on January 31, 2016, 12:09:57 am
'Fraid I can't see your image - I get an error message saying I'm not logged in, so presumably only you can see it
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: bograt on January 31, 2016, 12:16:30 am
'Fraid I can't see your image - I get an error message saying I'm not logged in, so presumably only you can see it

Hmmm-- maybe a software issue? anyone else see it or not???.

Maybe you have to have a dropbox account ?--
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: AR on January 31, 2016, 10:19:17 am
I can't see it either and I've got a dropbox account.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: pwhole on January 31, 2016, 11:48:27 am
I can see it fine.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: bograt on January 31, 2016, 12:29:23 pm
----Weird!!, maybe Q can explain it tomorrow?

(BTW, I'm on Windows 8.1)
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: HardenClimber3 on January 31, 2016, 12:51:50 pm
So, we should see more than this...

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1705/24634623921_89d9443356_b.jpg)

(firefox, windows 7)
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: bograt on January 31, 2016, 02:40:19 pm
Same on win 8.1 with explorer.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: paul on January 31, 2016, 03:05:04 pm
I don't have the attach files option, nor can I see Bograt's photo an I do have a DropBox account.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Q on February 01, 2016, 12:22:44 pm
Hi all,

Attachment box should appear underneath those checkboxes (see image). Tested on Firefox v44 on Mac and works OK.

Please could you check your version of Firefox and let me know.

Thanks,
Q
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: paul on February 01, 2016, 12:33:55 pm
No attachment box on Chrome / Win 7 or Chromium / Ubuntu Linux 14.10.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: MarkS on February 01, 2016, 12:36:04 pm
I just see what HardenClimber3 posted above - looks to me like a permissions thing from the difference between the two screenshots above.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Caver Keith on February 01, 2016, 02:11:54 pm
It doesn't work for me on Safari Version 9.0.3.
I agree with Mark, it's got to be to do with permissions - admins can do it, the rest of us can't.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: axbridgecaver on February 07, 2016, 11:54:48 am
I have tried to post a photograph but unfortunately I can get it to work -

I am using IE 11 and the latest version of Flickr - I have copied the URL - see below -

https://www.flickr.com/photos/60888452@N00/24182003863/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60888452@N00/24182003863/)



When I look at it in the Preview mode (before Posting) all that appears is a white cross on a black square background - what am I doing incorrectly?

(https://www.flickr.com/photos/60888452@N00/24182003863/)

Thanks
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: pwhole on February 07, 2016, 12:03:56 pm
Yeah, I can't see the attachments settings either - I'm on Windows 7, IE 11.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Brains on February 07, 2016, 12:35:11 pm
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1643/24182003863_71c52df490_n.jpg)

Only as an included image - still no attachement. Followed your link and found URL for this and copied between the img tags
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: axbridgecaver on February 07, 2016, 04:23:45 pm
Thanks Brains but I copied the URL and put it between the image tags and it still would not display the picture. Possibly a problem with IE 11?

Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Brains on February 07, 2016, 06:33:50 pm
When viewing your link on Flickr I R-clicked the image and selected view page info, from their I selected the Media tab and scrolled down to the Image .jpg and put that in the tags...
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Pegasus on February 07, 2016, 06:35:19 pm
Thanks for all the feedback, folks.

We're meeting with Q on Tuesday....fingers crossed  :) :)

Pegasus
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: The Old Ruminator on February 07, 2016, 07:47:18 pm
I really cant see the problem with Photobucket. I dont like anything that degrades or reduces the image. Links are messy. I dont try to follow UKC on a mobile phone if you do just read the text and look at decent photo files on a pc.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: kay on February 07, 2016, 08:18:48 pm
Thanks Brains but I copied the URL and put it between the image tags and it still would not display the picture. Possibly a problem with IE 11?

It's a problem with Flickr  - there are several different url type things in there which look like the one you need, but only one of them is the right one.
This is what you're looking for, something of this form. The _b (or whatever letter) gives the size of the image.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/710/22817525363_813d904483_b.jpg
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Antwan on February 07, 2016, 09:07:28 pm
To use a picture from flickr - Forget about being fancy and outsmarting the system.

Press the share in the bottom right - choose BB Code and select the size to share (medium or small will do) and past the genrated link into your post

1) this gives a small bandwidth image in the thread that is clickable to see the full version
2) this is in line with flickr terms and conditions (Important for posts by the forum owners) - They have the opportunity to earn revenue from any advertising when someone view the full size image on flickr

I did make a photoguide but hosted the images on my own server and it all crashed before I made a backup :-(
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: axbridgecaver on February 08, 2016, 08:39:13 am
Thanks Antwan - it worked.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Q on February 10, 2016, 01:31:11 pm
OK, thanks for bearing with me. I found another setting deep in the admin that managed permissions for viewing and posting images. You should be able to post images unmoderated, see how it goes.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: bograt on February 10, 2016, 01:37:41 pm
Yup! :thumbsup: the attachment option is there now, I will try it later  :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: bograt on February 10, 2016, 01:49:54 pm
Try this;



Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: bograt on February 10, 2016, 01:52:55 pm
Seems to work ok, shame it doesn't show on preview.

Btw., its a 30 year old slide copy, that's why the quality is naff--- :(
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: JasonC on February 10, 2016, 02:25:09 pm
Bograt - I've lost the thread of this thread...

So, what did you do to get the above pic here? 
If it was in dropbox, I assume you Shared with public, then put the generated link URL into an IMG tag pair ?
Or is there more to it ?

Thanks

Edit: Ah, no, I get it now, it's in Attachment Options.  But then what....
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Martin Laverty on February 10, 2016, 02:38:44 pm
@Bograt
 - it only works for people who are logged in
 - which might be a useful feature for people irritated by photographs
...
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: bograt on February 10, 2016, 03:19:39 pm
Just type something into the reply box (a couple of dots should be enough), then select your pic. into the attachment box & post it. I browsed a memory stick for this one.
 As I already mentioned it unfortunately doesn't show in preview, but comes up when the message is posted. -- simples :)
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Brains on February 10, 2016, 03:58:10 pm
Lets give it a go...

Hmm, seems to work ok now :D
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: bagpuss on March 16, 2016, 07:58:33 pm
Just to let you know the advert added to the right of the page is squishing everything up by the looks of it including photos..
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Mark on April 09, 2016, 12:49:06 pm
Tried it, failed only way is flickr or summat.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: MarkS on November 24, 2016, 04:48:09 pm
Links to content on Google Drive seem to be causing a problem at the moment. From a brief read, it looks like URLs to download content on drive are short lived, so they won't work for long at all. This might be avoided by using the link generated when you select "share content" or similar.

Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Q on July 12, 2017, 02:30:27 pm
Testing a larger attachment
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: The Old Ruminator on July 12, 2017, 07:58:12 pm
Trying attachment
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: The Old Ruminator on July 12, 2017, 08:00:18 pm
Arghh. It worked but I fumbled it . Seems OK so may continue with this method. As was stated needs some text to come up.

Anyway. "The Egg Timer" from yesterday.

Enlarges well.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Pegasus on July 18, 2017, 10:48:29 pm
To explain lager photo above, a note from Q I received recently:

'I have increased the photo upload size to 1Mb and allowed 10 images per post. I’ve also increased the thumbnail size to 600px so they look much la(r)ger :) '

The photo situation on the forum may not be perfect, however hopefully this has helped, cheers, Pegasus  ;D

Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Simon Wilson on September 27, 2017, 06:50:48 pm
What am I doing wrong?

On flickr I have made sure the privacy setting for the photo 'public', I have clicked on the photo then on the 'share' icon. That opens a box with the URL highlighted so I have copied it. Then in the forum post I have clicked on 'insert image' and pasted the URL between the tags. When I click 'preview' it is just blank.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: MarkS on September 27, 2017, 07:28:47 pm
If you post the url here or send it to me then I'll try and help out.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Badlad on September 27, 2017, 08:39:25 pm
I also had trouble with flickr and gave up in the end moving to photobucket which was much easier.  Then photobucket stopped third party hosting...  I now use our own hosting.

MarkS will almost certainly be able to help you out.  Cheers
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: chunky on September 27, 2017, 11:00:43 pm
if you hit the share button on flickr and copy and paste the BBcode: directly on to the page this is what you get:

Don't use the insert image button, just paste the txt you have copied from Flickr.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4396/36648576290_947a21c67b_m.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XQvwV1)_DSC9818 (https://flic.kr/p/XQvwV1) by Mark Burkey (https://www.flickr.com/photos/87615091@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Simon Wilson on September 27, 2017, 11:39:59 pm
Chunky, but that's the wrong size and it doesn't look like your photos usually look. How do you normally post photos?

Mark, this is the code that I get when I click on the photo and then on 'share' https://flic.kr/p/XTkTe2

and below is what happens when I put that in the 'insert image' tags

(https://flic.kr/p/XTkTe2)
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: mikem on September 27, 2017, 11:55:29 pm
When you click on share you get the options of share (which gives you a web address, as you listed), embed (in a document) or BBCode (which is what Chunky suggested - his latest photos are hosted on facebook):

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4493/36680642983_7c2a15a158_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XTkTe2)Tatty bits (https://flic.kr/p/XTkTe2) by vaccaryman (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152306484@N06/), on Flickr

Mike
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Simon Wilson on September 28, 2017, 07:19:39 am
But neither of those methods displays the photos correctly as they used to be displayed when I used Photobucket. By 'correctly' I mean that you could choose the size that they were displayed at and if the viewer clicked on them they went correctly to full screen. If you click on the photos of Aquamole that Chunky posted they go much too big for the screen and all you can see is a corner of the image. If you click on the image that you posted it takes you to flickr in a new window. If we are stuck with that then we are stuck with it and will have to get used to it I suppose.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Simon Wilson on September 28, 2017, 09:08:10 am
Here's another go using 'postimage'  http://postimages.org/ (http://postimages.org/)

I think it might be better. If you click on the image it takes you to the postimage website which has adverts. There are pros and cons of every way of photo hosting.

This photo is the new anchors on the third pitch of Tatham Wife Hole.

(https://s26.postimg.org/57ez0h1rt/Tatham_P3_Y_1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

The photo seemed to disappear after a few minutes. Hmm?

Now it's back again. Weird.


Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: MarkS on September 28, 2017, 09:22:40 am
Unfortunately I think the problems are down to a combination of Flickr trying to ensure any photos hosted by them link back to the Flickr page, and also trying to pretend that users can stop people from downloading their images.

The BBcode option (as those above have just mentioned) gives you the code below, resulting in the image mikem posted above.

Code: [Select]
[url=https://flic.kr/p/XTkTe2][img]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4493/36680642983_7c2a15a158_z.jpg[/img][/url]
[url=https://flic.kr/p/XTkTe2]Tatty bits[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/152306484@N06/]vaccaryman[/url], on Flickr


If you delete everything outside of the img tags then you can get rid of all the links:

Code: [Select]
[img]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4493/36680642983_7c2a15a158_z.jpg[/img]
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4493/36680642983_7c2a15a158_z.jpg)


You can add "width = xx" inside the image tags as shown below to resize the image:

Code: [Select]
[img width=300]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4493/36680642983_7c2a15a158_z.jpg[/img]
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4493/36680642983_7c2a15a158_z.jpg)


If resized (as in the bottom case) clicking on it should enlarge it to its full size.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Simon Wilson on September 28, 2017, 09:37:27 am
Thanks Mark.

Here's another go with flickr.

Now I feel confident.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4337/37337486102_0d9081c0fd_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: chunky on September 28, 2017, 09:41:15 am
Chunky, but that's the wrong size and it doesn't look like your photos usually look. How do you normally post photos?

Mark, this is the code that I get when I click on the photo and then on 'share' https://flic.kr/p/XTkTe2

and below is what happens when I put that in the 'insert image' tags

(https://flic.kr/p/XTkTe2)

Hi Simon,

Marks beat me to it. I was trying to give you the easiest way of posting with size picked when you copy the share url (I picked the smallest as an example)

Simon, Marks has described above exactly the process I use to normally display my images from Flickr. Unfortunately it does involve the faff of deleting the rest of the code and adding the width command to the img tag.

@Marks, nice clear tutorial for that option.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Simon Wilson on September 28, 2017, 09:53:20 am
It appears to me that the two best hosting services are flickr and postimage. If we can be sure about the best ways of posting photos then maybe someone could write a clear and concise explanation of how to do it and put it where it can easily be found. This thread is not the best place because you have to search for it and then read through it all.

We might get more people posting photos if it was easier to find out how to do it.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Topimo on September 28, 2017, 01:17:43 pm
May I ask what the limitations are with the forum's built-in 'Attachments' tool?

This is what I've used for anything I've uploaded (photos, diagrams).

Obviously it doesn't link to an external account - important if you have a vast library you want people to find and browse.
Secondly the file size is limited, so I've had to resize the photos before uploading.
Less control over display size in the post.

However it keeps the photos on the UKC servers, meaning no photobucket-esque scandals down the road...

This obviously doesn't work for many people, but I'd say it is sufficient for many others.
Perhaps it should be called "Photos and attachments", instead of "Attachments and other options".
As this would reflect its most common usage.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: pwhole on September 28, 2017, 04:04:07 pm
If you pay a few quid for a hosting package, you can put as many photos up as your heart desires, at the right size, the right way round, and placed where you want them. And saving Jane and Tim money on server space, if attachments are the preferred 'local' option. I try and use attachments if it's something I think should be on a shared 'public' server, otherwise they stay on mine. Free services will always incur some pain, as they're free. You pay to remove the hassle and 'take back control', to use a popular phrase.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Badlad on September 28, 2017, 07:04:13 pm
Topimo -see this

To explain lager photo above, a note from Q I received recently:

'I have increased the photo upload size to 1Mb and allowed 10 images per post. I’ve also increased the thumbnail size to 600px so they look much la(r)ger :) '

The photo situation on the forum may not be perfect, however hopefully this has helped, cheers, Pegasus  ;D

No problem with hosting on our server so far  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: The Old Ruminator on September 28, 2017, 07:42:44 pm
Both Postimage and Flickr leave you with that nagging feeling that one day they will blackmail you with a huge fee ( like Photobucket ) or be bought out and subsequently fold up.
You can appreciate my feeling that at the end of next year my 20,000 hosted Photobucket images will disappear from forums as I wont be blackmailed into paying a huge yearly fee. That is the nature of the internet unfortunately . I have stated that I don't like posted links nor do I like low res attachments. Currently Postimage is so simple to use and size your images. ( I have just added a load to my collectors forum. ) I cannot see me using any other medium for the moment. There is no need for a Postimage tutorial as it is self explanatory. ( Do remember to size the image otherwise it might go off some old member's monitor and drive him to distraction. I use the 15 in monitor size for this forum ).
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Topimo on September 28, 2017, 10:11:01 pm
Topimo -see this

To explain lager photo above, a note from Q I received recently:

'I have increased the photo upload size to 1Mb and allowed 10 images per post. I’ve also increased the thumbnail size to 600px so they look much la(r)ger :) '

The photo situation on the forum may not be perfect, however hopefully this has helped, cheers, Pegasus  ;D

No problem with hosting on our server so far  :thumbsup:

Yes I saw that around the time I stuck those last pics up, it's definitely a change for the better!

I do really like not having to use another service in conjunction with UKC just to share a couple of photos now and then!
Definitely better to centralise stuff to help preserve it.

Does the wiki see much love?
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: The Old Ruminator on September 29, 2017, 09:36:13 am
Just looking at the attachment route. 636kb image.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: The Old Ruminator on September 29, 2017, 09:37:36 am
I think I might go this way in future though I don't know how easy it would be for multiple images.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: MarkS on September 29, 2017, 10:23:47 am
Yes, I would certainly say attachments are preferable, especially if you have any desire for anyone to be able to go back and look at them.

Many old topics which had pictures now either have nothing or a photobucket logo in their place. :(
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Frog2 on September 29, 2017, 10:34:58 am
One subtle difference is that photo's added as 'attachments' are only visible if logged in whereas those that are linked seem to be visible to all.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Simon Wilson on September 29, 2017, 11:04:05 am
Quite often I can be reading something and then realise I am missing something in the conversation. I scroll back and notice a tiny little paperclip indicating that there is an attachment. I mostly read UKcaving without being logged in. I wonder how many people read it without being logged in. I know people who often read UKcaving and aren't members at all so can't log in and can't see photos as attachments.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: JohnMCooper on September 29, 2017, 11:24:19 am
Quote
I wonder how many people read it without being logged in.

So that's why I haven't been seeing photos most of the time!
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: MarkS on September 29, 2017, 11:26:09 am
One subtle difference is that photo's added as 'attachments' are only visible if logged in whereas those that are linked seem to be visible to all.

Ah, I hadn't realised that - I'm always logged in when I read the forum. Perhaps that's something that can be modified? I can't see it being a problem for attachments to be public.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: TheBitterEnd on September 29, 2017, 06:48:45 pm
One subtle difference is that photo's added as 'attachments' are only visible if logged in whereas those that are linked seem to be visible to all.

Ah, I hadn't realised that - I'm always logged in when I read the forum. Perhaps that's something that can be modified? I can't see it being a problem for attachments to be public.

The issue with making attachments public is that the UK Caving server would then be serving the image to any other site that links to a specific image. A number of small websites have been hit with big bills for excess traffic due to an image "going viral".
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Topimo on September 29, 2017, 07:15:10 pm
One subtle difference is that photo's added as 'attachments' are only visible if logged in whereas those that are linked seem to be visible to all.

Ah, I hadn't realised that - I'm always logged in when I read the forum. Perhaps that's something that can be modified? I can't see it being a problem for attachments to be public.

The issue with making attachments public is that the UK Caving server would then be serving the image to any other site that links to a specific image. A number of small websites have been hit with big bills for excess traffic due to an image "going viral".

That is a very good point, but the odds are (un)fortunately low for caving probably.
It only takes the right shot though, 'viral' is something that even the greatest marketing company will never truly be able to predict...
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: MarkS on October 03, 2017, 03:21:04 pm
The issue with making attachments public is that the UK Caving server would then be serving the image to any other site that links to a specific image. A number of small websites have been hit with big bills for excess traffic due to an image "going viral".

I didn't think of that that - very good point. Maybe more people using attachments would just encourage people to log in to view the forum then!
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Judi Durber on November 01, 2017, 01:10:17 pm
I have gone up & down this thread & can't get to the 'best' precise instructions as to what to do.

There are references to being able to host on UKC?

Please can all the information above be put into one post  ;D

The sizing being a separate bit as I just want to post a photo at the mo.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Simon Wilson on November 01, 2017, 01:29:22 pm
I have gone up & down this thread & can't get to the 'best' precise instructions as to what to do.

There are references to being able to host on UKC?

Please can all the information above be put into one post  ;D

The sizing being a separate bit as I just want to post a photo at the mo.

It appears to me that the two best hosting services are flickr and postimage. If we can be sure about the best ways of posting photos then maybe someone could write a clear and concise explanation of how to do it and put it where it can easily be found. This thread is not the best place because you have to search for it and then read through it all.

We might get more people posting photos if it was easier to find out how to do it.

There's an echo in here.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Pegasus on November 01, 2017, 02:14:51 pm
.....am I missing something, but what's wrong with post number 1 by Badlad on this thread??

If it's suitable folks, I can copy it and post again on a new (locked) thread and sticky to top of 'Forum notices'

Over to you....
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Judi Durber on November 01, 2017, 03:29:25 pm
Sorry didn't know that were the latest instructions.  I thought there had been a change since then  :-[

Yes please   
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If it's suitable folks, I can copy it and post again on a new (locked) thread and sticky to top of 'Forum notices'

Add in any other points made since then.  e.g  I think the max No. per post has increased.  ;D

Thank you
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Simon Wilson on November 01, 2017, 04:53:42 pm
The main problem with the advice at the top of this thread is that you have to be able to find it. The only way to find it is to use the search function and to do that you have to think that you might find the right advice by using the search function. If you happen to have made that choice then you also need to be lucky and choose the right search term. If you use 'posting photographs' you will find it but if you search for 'how to upload an image' then you won't. If you use 'uploading photos', 'posting images' or anything else like that then you won't find it. You are more likely to find a post somewhere down the thread but then you still wouldn't find it without clicking on the button to select page one and there is nothing to tell you to do that.

Try and put yourself in the mind of a new user - they would be very unlikely have the perseverence to find it.

If you did find it, it says you can use photobucket so you might go through the whole process of creating a photobucket account and uploading photos to photobucket before finding that you can't use it to post photos on here. But I'm sure most people would have given up long before that stage.

It seems to me that many people would expect to find advice in making posts by going to the 'help' heading on the home page and then choosing 'posting'. It takes you here: http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Posting  That's what I did and there is nothing at all about posting photos.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Judi Durber on November 03, 2017, 08:08:11 am
Yes I keep forgetting where this is.   :-[

Posted at the top of Photography maybe as a duplicate/ new/separate post would be nice.

Found attaching is easy once I have compressed the file.  ;D

One file did compress to 239 kb and I wondered what would happen as it is over the 235 kb limit.  Strangely enough it lists at 236 in Explorer.  :blink:
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Badlad on November 03, 2017, 08:32:00 am
I'll update this and take on your suggestions when I get a moment.  Cheers
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: Goydenman on November 03, 2017, 01:20:07 pm
The main problem with the advice at the top of this thread is that you have to be able to find it. The only way to find it is to use the search function and to do that you have to think that you might find the right advice by using the search function. If you happen to have made that choice then you also need to be lucky and choose the right search term. If you use 'posting photographs' you will find it but if you search for 'how to upload an image' then you won't. If you use 'uploading photos', 'posting images' or anything else like that then you won't find it. You are more likely to find a post somewhere down the thread but then you still wouldn't find it without clicking on the button to select page one and there is nothing to tell you to do that.

Try and put yourself in the mind of a new user - they would be very unlikely have the perseverence to find it.

If you did find it, it says you can use photobucket so you might go through the whole process of creating a photobucket account and uploading photos to photobucket before finding that you can't use it to post photos on here. But I'm sure most people would have given up long before that stage.

It seems to me that many people would expect to find advice in making posts by going to the 'help' heading on the home page and then choosing 'posting'. It takes you here: http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Posting  That's what I did and there is nothing at all about posting photos.

Good points Simon. I'm not a 'new user' but find it hard work. last time it says my photo too large
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: The Old Ruminator on November 04, 2017, 09:42:19 am
Postimage is so easy to use . Just restrict the image size to a 15 or 17 inch screen. Thats done on the upload page. In saying that I could not get on Postimage last time I tried due to an issue with the server. You are still at the mercy of third part hosting though.
Title: Re: Posting Photographs
Post by: The Old Ruminator on November 04, 2017, 09:47:34 am
Here is an older photo of somewhere on Mendip. 17 inch moniter size . So Postimage is OK today.

(https://s1.postimg.org/49wpa5l04f/IMG_0591.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Upload, and paste the image tag. Easy.