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Title: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 19, 2009, 07:42:37 am
This has now gone live at:

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/audio.shtml (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/audio.shtml)

It currently consists of thirty odd recordings about memorable caving incidents of the past, recalled by various notables including Graham Balcombe, Bob Leakey, Ken Pearce and Martyn Farr. None last more than 15 minutes.

More recordings are steadily being added from a stockpile, but many more are required!

The recordings are held in MP3 format, and are available from both embedded technology and as downloadable files.

The embedded technology uses a sequence of incantations which appear to work on most browsers, but will not work on all. Positive suggestions for improvement of the embedding which do not involved browser sniffing or plugin detection will be welcomed. Note that the W3C recommended technology was not found to be particularly well supported.

Anyway, we hope that you enjoy the recordings, and we very much look forward to your feedback as well as your contributions.

Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Slug on February 19, 2009, 09:37:54 am
 Works well on Firefox with the Quick time player.

 The recordings seem to be very clear, with little in the way of hiss and other audio noise, ( well the two I tried were anyway), so all in all, very good.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: SamT on February 19, 2009, 01:14:38 pm
Nice one.  :thumbsup:

It would be great (albeit a copyright nightmare) to see a similar thing for vid as well,

you know - all those little snippets you get, news items, 'inside out' on titan/sidetrack/mossdale. interview with folk.

I guess youtube would might as a host, then links to youtube from a central site as above.

Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Anon on February 19, 2009, 02:58:17 pm
Interesting stuff  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: damian on February 19, 2009, 03:45:47 pm
Absolutely superb .. I know what I will be listening to on the way to the Mendips this weekend.

A brilliant job.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: ianball11 on February 19, 2009, 09:58:50 pm
Awesome!
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: marysboy on February 20, 2009, 01:34:04 am
Fantastic!  :bounce:
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Glenn on February 20, 2009, 09:09:35 am
I have a copy (on CD) of a BBC radio play from the early '70's of "The Pothole Rescue" which is a dramatisation of the mid '60's Llethrid rescue. I don't know if there would be copyright issues, but if you want a copy for the archive, send me a pm.

Cheers,

Glenn

via the Speleo Vercors wifi LAN at La Jarjatte-en-Vercors
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: bubba on February 20, 2009, 01:52:29 pm

Great resource :)

Is there any way of getting the audio to play using the Flash plugin rather than the Quicktime plugin? I've tried messing with Firefox's file associations but it won't work.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Goydenman on February 20, 2009, 02:40:19 pm
Really enjoying these - great resource - BIG THANKS
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 20, 2009, 02:55:09 pm
I have a copy (on CD) of a BBC radio play from the early '70's of "The Pothole Rescue" which is a dramatisation of the mid '60's Llethrid rescue. I don't know if there would be copyright issues, but if you want a copy for the archive, send me a pm.
I am a mere technical assistant who walks 20 metres behind Sid Perou and 10 metres behind Dave Checkley waiting to spring into action at their bidding, so I am not really  the person to ask. However, I reckon that it is probably not a candidate for the online audio archive, but I am sure that the National Caving Library would welcome a copy for people to reference. May I suggest that you drop a line to the librarian - contact details at: http://caving-library.org.uk/index.shtml (http://caving-library.org.uk/index.shtml)

Thanks.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 20, 2009, 03:05:29 pm
Is there any way of getting the audio to play using the Flash plugin rather than the Quicktime plugin? I've tried messing with Firefox's file associations but it won't work.

Is it that you prefer Flash or that it will not work with the Quicktime plugin? I use Firefox, and it opens with Quicktime.

As I indicated above, what I know about plugins can be written on the back of a postage stamp. All I know is that the W3C standards are not supported by most browsers, and that quite often Microsoft-specific code manages to drive other manufacturers' plugins. It's all a very messy area.

What I could do, given sufficient demand for the facility, and support in generating the embedded code and testing it, is to allow people to select the plugin of their choice and store that choice as a permanent cookie. The required embedding code would then be generated on the fly.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: bubba on February 20, 2009, 06:42:34 pm

Just preference really - most ppl have Flash installed already for youtube, etc.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 21, 2009, 07:04:25 am
Is there any way of getting the audio to play using the Flash plugin rather than the Quicktime plugin? I've tried messing with Firefox's file associations but it won't work.

I know little about Flash (or about anything else for that matter), but I am under the impression that one needs to beg, or borrow an audio player written in Flash script to play an MP3 recording in Flash, rather than just associate a file extension to the Flash plugin.

I did consider the possibility of using Flash, but was put off the idea for a number of reasons. I was not keen to use an audio player hosted on another site; I don't have the technology or knowledge to develop one myself; I couldn't readily sort out how to implement one available in source form; and it appears that one needs JavaScript to be enabled to use them.

I may well have another go. Although the audio playing technology is obviously a very important part of the application, it is only a few line of code.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 21, 2009, 11:18:31 pm
Just preference really - most ppl have Flash installed already for youtube, etc.

I have re-implemented the embedded player so that it uses Flash. As Bubba says, Flash does seem to be ubiquitous these days, and it also means that the implementation will the same in all browsers. The player graphics isn't quite as elegant as I would like, but it was a freeby so I canna complain.

If anyone encounters a problem with it, please shout. I've tested it on the common Windoze browsers, but it has only had limited testing on UNIX.

Sid hopes to be adding some material from Eric Hensler tomorrow.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: bubba on February 22, 2009, 09:38:42 pm
The Flash player works great - nice work  :thumbsup:

A good decision I reckon - if you check Adobe's Flash Player Statistics (http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/) (they may be a touch biased I guess ;) ) then 99% of browsers have Flash installed, as opposed to only 64% with Quicktime.

Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 22, 2009, 10:05:43 pm
The Flash player works great - nice work  :thumbsup:

A good decision I reckon - if you check Adobe's Flash Player Statistics (http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/) (they may be a touch biased I guess ;) ) then 99% of browsers have Flash installed, as opposed to only 64% with Quicktime.
Thanks - I'm always be ready to be guided by wiser heads than mine.

However, your comparison isn't really fair as the percentage of browsers with Quicktime installed is not really relevant. The incantation I was using previously was MS oriented, but I saw the recordings being played on Quicktime, RealPlayer, and Windoze Media Player - depending on how the file associations had been set up on the browser I was testing with. It seems that the various proprietary plugins make a point of being able to implement code which was set up to drive Windoze Media Player - even on UNIX systems!

Anyway, I'm reasonably happy with the new implementation - it's now been tested on most MAC and UNIX browser / OS combinations without any problems being reported. I hadn't used Flash technology before, and one tends to be a little nervous when using a technology for the first time.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: bubba on February 22, 2009, 10:15:20 pm
Wise? Not me  :unsure:

Yeah, those stats are only a rough guide I guess.

Flash used to be much maligned, mainly due to the fashion of every website needing some awful, slow-loading "Flash intro" - I think youtube, etc have done much to re-instate it as the daddy of multimedia browser plugins.

Technicalities aside, some really fascinating stuff in the audio-archive, well recommended :)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 23, 2009, 10:50:10 am
Technicalities aside, some really fascinating stuff in the audio-archive, well recommended :)
Sid has uploaded a remarkable interview with Eric Hensler, in which Eric describes his first trip down Swildon's in 1934 equipped with home-made ladders (with rope rungs!), candles, and flying helmets (for the lucky ones).

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=56 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=56)

Now that people can see what the Caving Audio Archives are about, how about contributing? Classic tales from the Young Tigers as well as the Old Farts would be welcomed. See http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/contributing.shtml (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/contributing.shtml) for how you can help.

Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Smithers on February 27, 2009, 07:24:53 am
Just had a look at the audio files, what a good find!  Absolutely fantastic!

Just one question, with the Eric Hensler interviews it goes from 1, 2, 3 and 5.  Is there a 4th interview or should the one be labelled as 5th be the 4th?

Also does anyone have any pictures of Bob Leakey that could be uploaded on to the website to go with the descriptions or put on here?  It'd be useful for me as I've put the audio files in iTunes as audiobooks, and am using the pictures as album artwork etc.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 27, 2009, 07:50:23 am
Just one question, with the Eric Hensler interviews it goes from 1, 2, 3 and 5.  Is there a 4th interview or should the one be labelled as 5th be the 4th?

Good question - I was waiting with bated breath to see if a fourth was going to appear. There's nothing hidden - I'll ask Mr. Perou.

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Also does anyone have any pictures of Bob Leakey that could be uploaded on to the website to go with the descriptions or put on here?  It'd be useful for me as I've put the audio files in iTunes as audiobooks, and am using the pictures as album artwork etc.

If someone does, and there ain't going to be a copyright issue, I'll be happy to add it to the database.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 27, 2009, 09:55:47 am
Just one question, with the Eric Hensler interviews it goes from 1, 2, 3 and 5.  Is there a 4th interview or should the one be labelled as 5th be the 4th?

I've checked, and it was a typo that I have now corrected.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: knuckledragger on February 28, 2009, 01:04:42 am
Brilliant stuff. I was lucky enough to have a cup of tea and a slice of cake with Leaky 3 years ago. He didnt want to talk much about early caving which was a shame.
Good work Mr Langliffe.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 28, 2009, 08:26:15 am
Good work Mr Langliffe.

Miss Langcliffe, actually, but thank you anyway, although your compliment is somewhat misdirected. I am a mere technical assistant to Sid Perou and Dave Checkley.

Bob Leakey's memory isn't as sharp as it was once, and in fact some of the details in the recordings on the site are not a 100% accurate, but we are privileged to be able to listen to them. He was one of the finest cavers of his generation, and his achievements were awesome.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: menacer on March 24, 2009, 07:44:19 pm

It currently consists of thirty odd recordings about memorable caving incidents of the past, recalled by various notables including Graham Balcombe, Bob Leakey, Ken Pearce and Martyn Farr. None last more than 15 minutes.

More recordings are steadily being added from a stockpile, but many more are required!


Hey Miss Langcliffe, how about adding some recordings of famous old timers like the great  John Gardiner before its too late....  8)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Duncan Price on March 25, 2009, 09:15:27 am

It currently consists of thirty odd recordings about memorable caving incidents of the past, recalled by various notables including Graham Balcombe, Bob Leakey, Ken Pearce and Martyn Farr. None last more than 15 minutes.

More recordings are steadily being added from a stockpile, but many more are required!


Hey Miss Langcliffe, how about adding some recordings of famous old timers like the great  John Gardiner before its too late....  8)

On the subject of Mr Gardiner, Clive Gardener has audio recordings of interviews with various people involved in the exploration of the Llangattock caves.  It would be great if these could be put on the audio archive...
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on March 25, 2009, 06:30:29 pm
Clive Gardener has audio recordings of interviews with various people involved in the exploration of the Llangattock caves.  It would be great if these could be put on the audio archive...

Sounds good. If someone who is in contact with Clive could discuss it with him, that would be useful. If he's happy for them to go onto the archives, then he should send them to Sid.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: RobinGriffiths on March 25, 2009, 11:57:34 pm
This is superb. For 'podcasting' purposes right click the 'Click here to listen to the recording on an external player' and save the mp3. Absolute gold dust...
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on May 19, 2009, 04:20:07 pm
Just an update - there are now some 65 recordings in the Audio Archives. The latest additions include some tributes to Oliver Lloyd (courtesy of UBSS) - the one by Mike Savage is very witty and manages to encapsulate many of Oliver's wonderful idiosyncrasies. For northern cavers there are also some by Jack Myers, of 'Underground Adventure' fame, talking about caving in the post-war years. Enjoy!

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/audio.shtml (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/audio.shtml)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: graham on May 19, 2009, 05:23:22 pm
Just an update - there are now some 65 recordings in the Audio Archives. The latest additions include some tributes to Oliver Lloyd (courtesy of UBSS) - the one by Mike Savage is very witty and manages to encapsulate many of Oliver's wonderful idiosyncrasies. For northern cavers there are also some by Jack Myers, of 'Underground Adventure' fame, talking about caving in the post-war years. Enjoy!

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/audio.shtml (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/audio.shtml)

I suspect that should be "Bob" Savage, not "Mike".
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on May 19, 2009, 05:38:09 pm
I suspect that should be "Bob" Savage, not "Mike".

Can you confirm that, Graham? Sid has "Professor Mike Savage".

Personally, I have no idea.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: graham on May 19, 2009, 06:46:25 pm
I suspect that should be "Bob" Savage, not "Mike".

Can you confirm that, Graham? Sid has "Professor Mike Savage".

Personally, I have no idea.

Professor Bob Savage was UBSS president when Lloyd died and was certainly at the event where those tapes were made. I have never heard of a Mike Savage, Professor or otherwise. Trust me on this.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on May 19, 2009, 07:16:39 pm
Trust me on this.

I do! I do! - Thanks.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Robert Scott on July 07, 2009, 09:45:50 pm

It currently consists of thirty odd recordings about memorable caving incidents of the past, recalled by various notables including Graham Balcombe, Bob Leakey, Ken Pearce and Martyn Farr. None last more than 15 minutes.

More recordings are steadily being added from a stockpile, but many more are required!


Hey Miss Langcliffe, how about adding some recordings of famous old timers like the great  John Gardiner before its too late....  8)

On the subject of Mr Gardiner, Clive Gardener has audio recordings of interviews with various people involved in the exploration of the Llangattock caves.  It would be great if these could be put on the audio archive...
Not on the subject of Mr Gardener. Without being disparaging of those with a Walian bent, there may be a Mr Gardener but there is also a Mr GARDNER who is very famous, but very modest about his achievements, in God's Own County. Perhaps his stories should be captured.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on October 19, 2009, 06:48:20 pm
Sid has added three recordings of Dave Gill, recorded at Hidden Earth - well worth listening to:

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/mostrecent.php (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/mostrecent.php)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives (Luke Devenish)
Post by: mrodoc on October 21, 2009, 10:12:25 am
Anybody out there willing to be interviewed re the late Luke Devenish, pioneer cave diver and caver and open water diver? i have some personal memories and an anecdote or two but wondered if anybody from his era would be prepared to be interviewed. He was based on the Mendips.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Peter Burgess on October 21, 2009, 10:48:41 am
You could ask Willie Stanton, perhaps.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on November 01, 2009, 03:29:38 pm
Sid has added further recordings to the library following Hidden Earth. Three are interviews with Fish Jeanmaire, and five with John Lovett, a YRC member since the late 1930s who was vey much involved with the 1951 rescue of John Frankland from Penyghent Pot.

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/mostrecent.php (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/mostrecent.php)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Robert Scott on November 01, 2009, 09:18:46 pm
I liked the stuff from Geoff Workman. Nice to hear it recorded. It's dated 24th April so the day before his birthday weekend celebration at Stump Cross. A really good do.

But still nothing from John Gardner, one of the doyens of caving in the Yorkshire Dales.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: SamT on November 07, 2009, 04:29:36 pm

Thinking of bribing a few notable derbyshire/eldon characters with beer and recording some stuff.

Just wondering about technology for recording. I subtly tried the Dictaphone on my mobile the other day, its not a cheap mobile either and the quality was god awful.

Must be some reasonable cheap kit around these days,  just wondered if anyone has any experience.

Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives (Luke Devenish)
Post by: graham on November 07, 2009, 04:35:40 pm
Anybody out there willing to be interviewed re the late Luke Devenish, pioneer cave diver and caver and open water diver? i have some personal memories and an anecdote or two but wondered if anybody from his era would be prepared to be interviewed. He was based on the Mendips.

Pete, surely the obvious candidate would be Jim Hanwell?
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on November 08, 2009, 11:56:21 am
Thinking of bribing a few notable derbyshire/eldon characters with beer and recording some stuff.

Just wondering about technology for recording. I subtly tried the Dictaphone on my mobile the other day, its not a cheap mobile either and the quality was god awful.

Must be some reasonable cheap kit around these days,  just wondered if anyone has any experience.
May I respectfully draw your attention to the last two paragraphs on http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/contributing.shtml (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/contributing.shtml) ?
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: SamT on November 08, 2009, 02:34:17 pm
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on November 18, 2009, 05:52:31 pm
Sid has added a number of new recordings to the Caving Audio Archives in the past couple of days, some of which indicate that the propensity for Wessex Cave Club members to talk with funny accents and sing badly dates back at least 47 years.

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/mostrecent.php (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/mostrecent.php)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on November 25, 2009, 03:31:11 pm
:thumbsup:

Did you contact Sid? I understand that the BCRA/BCA (I'm not sure which) is willing to loan a tape recorder for such as you were planning.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: SamT on November 25, 2009, 06:34:38 pm
Not yet - Been a bit distracted by other things. I'll get round to it one day.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on November 26, 2009, 10:28:32 pm
Alan Gray of the Axbridge Caving Group has made available some remarkable recordings of Balch speaking at the opening of the Axbridge Caving and Archaeological Society museum in 1952, six years before his death.

As one would expect of 1952 tape recordings and an old man in his eighties, the recordings are not that easy to listen to, but Alan has also made a transcript available. When you select the recording, right click on the transcript link to open the PDF file in another window and reading it at the same time as listening will make life a lot easier.

I think that these recordings are very exciting - a link back to the earliest days of British caving.

See http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/mostrecent.php (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/mostrecent.php)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on December 15, 2009, 07:49:18 pm
Sid has added a couple of recordings from one of the S.W.C.C. Balinka Pit expeditions. Very graphic, reality tapes made on the spot by people dangling in a hand-made cage attached to a hand-made winch over a 200 metre drop.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 07, 2010, 12:14:55 pm
Sid has added a number of new recordings to the Audio Archives. Some are by Jack Pickup, who should need no introduction, and some are by Frank Royston, one of the original CRO members and member of the Gritstone Club, who tells some interesting stories of stalactites suddenly appearing in White Scar Cave, of early rescues, and of Eli Simpson.

There are now 114 recordings lasting over fifteen hours available in the archives. Unfortunately, however, they are becoming a little Dales dominated, mainly because Sid is the main driving force and he's based in the Dales. Surely there are potential worthwhile  contributions from other areas? Without wanting to massage egos by naming names, I can certainly think of certain individuals from Mendip, Derbyshire, Wales and Scotland who should be recorded for posterity. Recording equipment is, apparently, available for borrowing.

See http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/audio.shtml (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/audio.shtml) for more information.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: ian mckenzie on February 08, 2010, 08:02:39 pm
Somewhere I have a cassette recording of Mike Boon that was the basis for the interview published in a 1993 edition of The Canadian Caver.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 08, 2010, 09:11:29 pm
Somewhere I have a cassette recording of Mike Boon that was the basis for the interview published in a 1993 edition of The Canadian Caver.

Sounds good. Would there be a copyright issue? If not, could you send it to the BCRA library? They will forward it onto to Sid.

The Librarian
British Caving Library
The Studio
Glutton Bridge
Buxton
SK17 0EN
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: ian mckenzie on February 09, 2010, 05:52:07 am
No copyright issue, but I'd like to check with Mike first before I send it off.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 14, 2010, 08:30:11 am
We need some photographs of Bob Leakey to illustrate his interviews. These are by far the most popular recordings on the database,  and it seems a shame not to have pictures of the great man.

If anybody has any photographs they could let us use, please PM me.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: mrodoc on February 14, 2010, 12:32:14 pm
I have a rather nice photo of Bob Leakey chatting to Graham Balcombe taken at the CDG 50th if that's any good. Also I have edited part of a 90 minute chat with the late Willie Stanton and it is ready to be put on line but I cannot find an email address to send it. I took the tape put it into a sound processing prog and made an MP3 file which is about 7 meg in size. Who would like it for the audio archive. - length about 9 minutes max. There will be more when I have time to do the work.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 14, 2010, 01:12:16 pm
Thanks, mdroc - PM sent.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 16, 2010, 01:32:47 pm
There have been a number of recordings added to the Audio Archives in the last couple of days. Of particular note is a very poignant one donated by Peter Glanvill of Willie Stanton recorded last November where Willie talks about the exploration of the Black Hole Series in Swildon's Hole some 60 years ago, and also a superb account by Jim Newton of an expedition to the Himalayas in 1970 which travelled across land by a double-decker bus.

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/mostrecent.php (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/mostrecent.php)

Enjoy.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on April 12, 2010, 10:03:50 am
There have been a number of recordings added to the Audio Archives in the last couple of days. Of particular note is a very poignant one donated by Peter Glanvill of Willie Stanton recorded last November where Willie talks about the exploration of the Black Hole Series in Swildon's Hole some 60 years ago

Has anyone got a picture of Willie Stanton we can use for the audio archives? It really doesn't matter whether it's a recent one or one taken in his more active days, although it would be nice to know the year that it was taken.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: damian on April 12, 2010, 10:45:25 am
Has anyone got a picture of Willie Stanton we can use for the audio archives?

I assume you know about the pics in the current Descent.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on April 12, 2010, 01:09:01 pm
I assume you know about the pics in the current Descent.

Yes - thank you. It was that which reminded me. If necessary I will approach Chris directly (he has helped out before).
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: hydrophobia on April 12, 2010, 04:09:28 pm
Hi there. Here's one which may be missing: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/excessbaggage/index_20041009.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/excessbaggage/index_20041009.shtml)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Gerbil007 on April 13, 2010, 04:16:17 pm
I'm currently enduring a 4 month period of government imposed exile in one of the Middle East's sandy ashtrays and have found this archive invaluable for keeping the fire burning. A truly excellent resource.  :clap2:
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on July 12, 2010, 11:34:47 am
Two recordings have been added to the BCA Audio Archives recently - both being interviews with John Frankland, the CRO doctor. A fine photograph  has been added to of Willie Stanton's  interview page - courtesy of the Wessex.

An RSS feed link has also been added to the Audio Archives. This allows the last ten recordings to be automatically bookmarked in a browser, so you can easily see if there is anything new.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on October 05, 2010, 08:34:06 am
Has anyone got some decent pictures of John Buxton we can use? One from the 1950s and a more recent one would be good.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Duncan Price on October 05, 2010, 10:42:41 am
PM sent.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on October 05, 2010, 10:56:11 am
PM sent.
- Thanks.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on November 19, 2010, 08:26:40 am
Has anyone a picture or two of Fish Jeanmaire from when he was in his prime? The one on the Audio Archives web site was taken last year and is currently shared by three recordings. It would be nice to have a couple from the time he was actively caving.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on December 27, 2010, 05:45:44 pm
Sid has added six interviews with Bob Leakey, recorded in September 2010 as part of a project associated with Eli Simpson. As usual, Bob Leakey is good value - one story tells how he was involved in the rescue of the same man from a peak in the Himalayas, and from Grange Rigg Pot!
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on December 28, 2010, 12:17:11 pm
Sid has added a further five interviews, this time with Harry Long. They are well worth a listen. Sid obviously didn't emigrate to Thailand to retire!

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/mostrecent.php (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/mostrecent.php)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Les W on December 28, 2010, 09:22:24 pm
Sid obviously didn't emigrate to Thailand to retire!

Good, he doesn't have enough time to retire.  ;D
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on May 10, 2011, 08:39:32 pm
Two new recordings have been added to the Audio Archives following the film made by Basher Baines in tribute to Sid Perou when Sid moved to Thailand late last year. The first is Sid's description of how he got into filming, and the other is an interview with Jack Pickup who describes the trials and tribulations of working with Sid. They can be most easily found from http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/mostrecent.php (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/mostrecent.php)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on May 11, 2011, 04:16:52 pm
Want to know what Sid Perou was doing hiding in a Derbyshire shakehole with a bag full of crows? Listen to Dave Gill telling the story at http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=168 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=168)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on May 20, 2011, 03:54:22 pm
Anyone got any pictures of Dave Gill they can make available for the Audio Archives?
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on June 16, 2011, 02:02:06 pm
Also does anyone have any pictures of Bob Leakey that could be uploaded on to the website to go with the descriptions or put on here?  It'd be useful for me as I've put the audio files in iTunes as audiobooks, and am using the pictures as album artwork etc.

Some 28 months after receiving this request, I have done something about it! The time interval is due to the fact that I find setting up the MP3 metatags from software a little traumatic.

The Audio Archive MP3 files now have an embedded 'album cover' in the ID3 tags which is the picture associated with the recording. This means that if you download the recordings into your own MP3 library, you'll get a picture to help you identify the recording.  This isn't infallible, as owing to a lack of photographs, one third of the recordings share pictures with others. More photographs are in particular required of Dave Gill, Dave Brook,  Dick Glover, Eric Hensler, Geoff Yeadon, and Jim Newton.

If you encounter any problems, please let me know.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on October 24, 2011, 11:09:04 am
As many of you will know, Clive Gardener has for many years been working on 'Searching for the Secret River' – a film and associated book project, 'Exploring The Caves of Llangattock Mountain' – documenting subterranean exploration beneath the mountain.

As part of this exercise he recorded a number of  interviews with people who have made significant contributions to the explorations, and he has generously made some of these available on the Audio Archives. The quality of the interviews and the quality of the recordings are superb, and well worth a listen.

The following are now available:

Brian Price: The discovery and naming of Agen Allwedd (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=169)
Mel Davies: The first excavation of Upper Trident Passage in Agen Allwedd (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=170)
Paul Hartwright: The discovery of Summertime in Agen Allwedd (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=171)
Clive Westlake: The creation of the Grand Circle in Agen Allwedd (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=172)
John Parker: Discovery of the Hall of the Mountain Kings, Ogof Craig a Ffynnon (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=173)
Bill Gascoine: Determining the hydrology of the limestones of South Wales (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=174)
Ian Rolland: Explorations beyond St. David's Sump in Daren Cilau (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=175)
Steve Pedrazzoli: Unravelling the Mysteries of Llangattock Mountain (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=176)
Rob Parker: The discovery and naming of the Seventh Hour Sump in Daren Cilau (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=177)

We have also added a recording of Dr. John Wilcock (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=178) talking about dowsing.

We hope that you enjoy them.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 07, 2012, 10:25:21 am
Have you ever wondered what it would be like to abseil down a big shaft on a short rope, finding that there was no knot on the end, and not being able to hold on?

Well, you can now find out! It happened to Andrea in Stream Passage Pot, and she was fortunate enough to survive the experience. A new recording has been added to the archive (with Andrea's permission), in which Jack Pickup reads out Andrea's written account of the event. It's a riveting account.

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=186 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=186)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 10, 2012, 11:24:16 am
http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=186 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=186)
If anyone had difficulty in hearing this owing to the low recording level, Sid has kindly boosted the volume. I  didn't have either the software or the expertise to do it myself (probably the latter).
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 13, 2012, 07:53:25 pm
Three new interviews have been added to the Audio Archives.

Frank Atkinson is best known for his work in founding the Beamish Museum, but when he was younger he was an active member of the BSA with a particular interest in geology and surveying in the late 1940s and early 1950s. He was involved in the original surveying of Lancaster Hole amongst other places.

The first two interviews are mainly concerned with his memories of Eli Simpson, but the second is concerned with the Penyghent Trip in 1951 during which John Williams died of exposure. Bob Leakey and Frank stayed with the casualty, whilst Ken Pearce, Trevor Shaw and Keith Braithwaite went for help.

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=187 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=187)
http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=188 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=188)
http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=189 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=189)

Enjoy.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: skippy on February 14, 2012, 10:04:57 am
Thanks God for that..thought it was my hearing :)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 26, 2012, 11:14:00 am
On the afternoon of the 6th November 2011, the Bruno Kranskies Rising Sump dig in Notts 2 was connected to Lyle Caverns in Lost Johns' Cave, forging the final link in the Three Counties System. To celebrate the culmination of all the hard work put in by hundreds of cavers over several decades, a Three Counties System Connection Party was held on the 26th November 2011 in Burton-in-Lonsdale Village Hall. It was well attended by generations of cavers who had contributed to the project, some of whom gave short presentations about their own contributions.

Johnny Latimer had the far-sightedness to record the presentations, some of which are now available on the Audio Archives. Some made extensive use of visual aids, which obviously doesn't make good radio, but those published still make reasonable sense without the visuals.

The following are available:

Dave Brook: The Three Counties System Celebrations (1)
Alf Latham: The Three Counties System Celebrations (2)
Dave Cobley: The Three Counties System Celebrations (3)
Andy Walsh: The Three Counties System Celebrations (4)
Frank Pearson: The Three Counties System Celebrations (5)
Hugh St. Lawrence: The Three Counties System Celebrations (6)

We hope that you enjoy them.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 27, 2012, 11:24:03 am
Because of the rapidly increasing number of interviewees represented in the Audio Archives, I have introduced the ability to drill down to a recording by interviewee. This new option is available from the right hand menu on the main audio archives page.

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/intervieweelist.php (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/intervieweelist.php)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on May 01, 2012, 02:17:15 pm
Three new interviews with Bert Bradshaw have been added to the Audio Archives. Gilbert Bradshaw started caving with the BSA during the war, but when the BSA splintered in the late 1940s he became a founder member of the Northern Pennine Club.

Bert is now in his 80s, but he has some great memories of caving in those early year, and gives a valuable insight into how Eli Simpson's old-school manner was found not to go down too well with those returning from the war.

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/listbyinterviewee.php?interviewee=Bert%20Bradshaw (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/listbyinterviewee.php?interviewee=Bert%20Bradshaw)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: marysboy on May 02, 2012, 12:45:47 pm
fantastic!
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on May 02, 2012, 01:14:59 pm
fantastic!

Nice to know that someone appreciates them! These interviews were primarily recorded for a film that Sid is putting together about Eli Simpson.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: skippy on May 02, 2012, 01:59:51 pm
I think I've listened to them all.....fantastic accounts.
The telling of the stream passage pot incident really has my toes curling.

And the best thing is I can listen to them and my manager thinks I'm working :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: damian on May 02, 2012, 06:02:21 pm
Nice to know that someone appreciates them!
I'm pretty sure there are quite a lot of people who consider the Audio Archives to be superb. Thanks to you, Sid and anyone else involved in them.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: marysboy on May 03, 2012, 01:07:28 pm
Nice to know that someone appreciates them!
i cannot believe you think otherwise. they are interesting, informative, funny, personal, poignant, a great direct record that would otherwise soon be lost, and best of all they are freely available to all! thank you for all the work you are putting into this project, it's great benefit to speleology in this country can only grow over time.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Paulaner on May 03, 2012, 09:16:37 pm
Very much appreciated ,inspiring stuff .
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on December 05, 2012, 12:00:10 pm
I have taken the plunge, and updated the Audio Archives technology to use the HTML5 <audio> facility to play back recordings. If the browser doesn't support the HTML5 audio facility for MP3 files, such as Firefox and Opera, Flash will continue to be used.

I haven't been able to test the implementation on any of these new-fangled computers (i.e. those without a CRT screen that you can carry around in your back pocket), so if anyone encounters any problems, would they let me know, please?
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on May 05, 2013, 11:27:40 am
Sid Perou has 'created' an additional interview with Bob Leakey which has now available on the BCRA Audio Archive, in which Bob talks about his Mossdale explorations in the early 1940s. The reason for the word created, is that the whole of the interview lasted about two rambling hours, and Sid has managed to extract the snippets relevant to Mossdale.

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=207 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=207)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Anon on May 05, 2013, 07:14:17 pm
Interesting listening.

Re: the note about "new fangled computers" - I used an Android phone and the play/time bar showed up as a black box (with JW Player at the top and a play icon in the middle) - I clicked, it said playing video, I got a black screen with the audio playing fine, so no problems for me via that route.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on May 05, 2013, 10:33:15 pm
Re: the note about "new fangled computers" - I used an Android phone and the play/time bar showed up as a black box (with JW Player at the top and a play icon in the middle) - I clicked, it said playing video, I got a black screen with the audio playing fine, so no problems for me via that route.

Thanks, Dunc - I must be clever than I thought!
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on October 23, 2013, 08:54:14 am
Has anyone any photographs of Jochen Hasenmayer I may use for the Audio Archives, please?
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: rhychydwr1 on October 23, 2013, 11:25:24 am
There is a picture here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jochen_Hasenmayer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jochen_Hasenmayer)

and probably a picture here:

FASZINATION BLAUTOPF Vorstoss in unbekantne Höhlenwelten by Arbeitsgemindschaft Blautopf (HG)  2009  136 pp, 75 colour plates, mainly whole page.  The Blautopf is a Vaclusian Spring in Southern Germany.  It is every cavers’ dream.  Cave diver eventually found dry passage at the end of the sump.  Then even better, dug into cave.  Exploration continues.  HB DW in German. 

Problen is, I sold my copy years ago.  You could try BCA Library.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on October 24, 2013, 01:31:47 pm
There is a picture here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jochen_Hasenmayer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jochen_Hasenmayer)
Thanks - I had that one earmarked as a last resort seeing that it is in the public domain. I was hoping for one in his diving gear, though, rather than in his wheelchair.

Quote
and probably a picture here:

FASZINATION BLAUTOPF Vorstoss in unbekantne Höhlenwelten by Arbeitsgemindschaft Blautopf (HG)  2009  136 pp, 75 colour plates, mainly whole page.  The Blautopf is a Vaclusian Spring in Southern Germany.  It is every cavers’ dream.  Cave diver eventually found dry passage at the end of the sump.  Then even better, dug into cave.  Exploration continues.  HB DW in German. 

Problen is, I sold my copy years ago.  You could try BCA Library.
Again, thanks - but one has to be sensitive to copyright issues.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: JasonC on October 24, 2013, 10:00:24 pm
I can't believe I haven't come across this superb site before, but now I have, thanks to all who put it together!

Just one thing - does anyone know what I need to do to make it work in Chrome?  Works fine in Firefox, but I tend to use Chrome, so would be nice to have it from there...
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on October 24, 2013, 10:17:45 pm
Just one thing - does anyone know what I need to do to make it work in Chrome?

Interesting - it has always worked fine in Chrome for me (I use Windows on a desktop).

By default, it uses the HTML 5 audio markup to play back the recording, but it reverts to Flash if the facility isn't supported by the browser. It does, however, require JavaScript to be enabled. If it isn't the following message will be displayed: "Sorry, the embedded MP3 player is unavailable as either JavaScript is disabled or the Flash plugin is not installed. Click here to download the recording."

What device and operating system are you using?
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: ianball11 on October 24, 2013, 10:27:07 pm
On chrome at work it doesn't work, at home it does if that's of any help.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: JasonC on October 24, 2013, 11:29:49 pm
Looks like I must have been unlucky - the first interview I chose was this one: http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=186 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=186) which doesn't seem to respond in Chrome, but having picked several others, they all spring into life no problem  :-\

For the record, I'm using Windows XP on a bog-standard PC, but I seem to be sorted now, so no worries.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: dudley bug on October 25, 2013, 12:20:37 am
Same as Jason C here. http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=186 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=186) does not play using Chrome on a Mac.

All the others I have clicked on appear to work.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on October 25, 2013, 08:21:00 am
Looks like I must have been unlucky - the first interview I chose was this one: http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=186 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=186) which doesn't seem to respond in Chrome, but having picked several others, they all spring into life no problem  :-\
Thank you - that was useful information.

I have played back that specific recording with Internet Explorer, Safari, Opera, Firefox, and Chrome and it only fails on the latter. When I force Chrome to play the MP3 file using Flash it also plays the recording without any problems, so it looks as if there is something in the Chrome implementation of the HTML 5 Audio markup that doesn't like something about this particular MP3 file.

It seems to me as if the problem is actually within Chrome rather than with the implementation or with the file, and as such is outside my control.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: JasonC on October 25, 2013, 04:05:58 pm
Well, thanks for taking the trouble Langcliffe.  :thumbsup:
As I said, I managed to listen to it - it fair makes your blood run cold !
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: TheBitterEnd on October 25, 2013, 07:08:19 pm
I've listened to a number of the recordings and they have all been worthwhile but had not heard that one before - fantastic (if that's an appropriate word :-\), keep up the good work.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on December 16, 2013, 07:02:05 pm
I have been given three fantastic interviews with Dave Cobley relating to the original Peterson Pot exploration, and to the Skreen Hill 2 and 3 explorations in Marble Arch Cave. I hope to put them online in the next couple of weeks.

What I'm now after is some photographs of Dave to illustrate the interviews, preferably from the 1960s / 1970s, and preferably caving shots. If anyone can help, I would be grateful.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on December 19, 2013, 10:20:17 am
I have now put the Dave Cobley interviews online. I think that they are absolutely splendid.

The first describes  the lead up (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=209) to the explorations of Skreen Hill 2 in Marble Arch.

The second describes the exploration (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=210) of Skreen Hill 2 and Skreen Hill 3 in the company of Mike Boone, Pete Livesey, John Ogden, Colin Vickers, Bill Frakes, et alia.

The third describes the incredibly committing exploration of Peterson Pot (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=211) on Leck Fell.

I hope you enjoy them.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: ianball11 on December 19, 2013, 01:15:39 pm
superb
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on January 22, 2014, 07:55:11 pm
We have just published a new interview on the BCA Audio Archive - this time with the legendary Jochen Hasenmayer. The interview was conducted in German by the Icelandic journalist Jan Murtomaa, but we have provided an English transcript for those of us whose linguistic skills are not up it. Many thanks to Jan for making the recording available.

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=208 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=208)
 
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on September 05, 2014, 01:28:29 pm
With thanks to Andy Chapman and Ben Wright, we have published a further ten interviews on the Audio Archive lasting about an hour. These are with the Brook Brothers, and the subjects covered include the ULSA explorations in Mossdale, Hangman's Hole, Black Shiver, Kingsdale Master Cave, PSM, and New Guinea 1975.

The complete list is here:

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/listbyinterviewee.php?interviewee=Alan%20and%20Dave%20Brook (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/listbyinterviewee.php?interviewee=Alan%20and%20Dave%20Brook)

Further treats coming up are four interviews with Bob Toogood. Watch this space!
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: ianball11 on September 05, 2014, 07:32:38 pm
Excellent stuff!   :clap2:

Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Paulaner on September 09, 2014, 07:36:38 pm
Echo that great stuff !
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on October 05, 2014, 01:48:10 pm
As promised, and with thanks for the efforts of Andy Chapman and Ben Wright, we are delighted to publish five interviews with Bob Toogood on the Audio Archive.

If ever there was a case for nominative determinism, it's Bob Toogood. During his sixty years of active outdoor life, Bob has excelled in the fields of caving, climbing, mountaineering, and fell running. During his caving career, Bob was on Ken Pearce's world record breaking trip down the Gouffre Berger, and has made original explorations all over the country including a mile in Agen Allwedd.

These are great recordings of a great caver, and may be found here (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/listby.php?listby=interviewee&subject=Bob%20Toogood).
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on October 14, 2014, 11:02:17 am
I've started on the rather tedious job of updating the two dozen or so audio archive PHP transactions from using the mysql  library for accessing the database, to the mysqli  library. I obviously try to make sure that a transaction works properly before replacing the old version, but if you do come across something that doesn't seem to be working, I would be grateful if you would let me know.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on January 19, 2015, 07:16:58 pm
With thanks to Johnny Latimer, we have been able to release two further interviews in the Audio Archive. In both cases, the interviewee is Stuart Whitmey, who was one of Ken Pearce's right-hand men on the 1964 and 1967 Gouffre Berger expeditions.

As many people will be aware, the 1964 expedition didn't achieve its objectives, with flooding preventing the team from reaching the sump, but it was eventful as Stuart  recounts in the first interview. In the days of electron ladders and wetsuits, Stuart describes how a continuous eleven day underground session included two days sheltering from flood waters on a ledge, and helping two injured people up the entrance series.

In the second interview, Stuart describes how Ken Pearce got together a larger team for a more organised attempt in 1967. Unfortunately, the shadow of the Mossdale Caverns incident from a couple of months before loomed over it, and the expedition soon began to splinter under the psychological pressure. Pooling resources with the Pegasus expedition led by Peter Watkinson, Pearce managed to pull it back together, and made a successful attempt on the sumps, passing sumps 1 and 2 before being stopped by a pitch.

These are fantastic first-hand accounts of important events in British caving history, and are strongly recommended.

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=246 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=246)
http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=247 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=247)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on January 27, 2015, 11:10:15 am
We have just released a new interview on the Audio Archive, courtesy of Martin Baines. This is something different - it isn't by a caver, but by Margaret Hunter Scarr who, with her husband, farmed the land around Ease Gill and Bull Pot of the Witches between 1958 and 1968. She came into frequent contact with cavers whilst living at Gale Garth, and this interview casts a fascinating light on the relationship between farmers and cavers. It's a lovely interview, and well worth a listen:

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=248 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=248)
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Jenny P on February 05, 2015, 06:34:51 pm
It is indeed well worth a listen!  How refreshing to hear someone from the farming world who liked chatting to cavers and was interested in what they do.  It's great to hear her talking about being taken down Lancaster Hole by the Red Rose - she clearly wasn't a slouch when it came to lively activity and she must have been pretty fit.

Also worth noting what she says about the damage done to the farm land after a major rescue - something that cavers perhaps don't think of as they tend, understandably, to be focussed on getting the casualties out as fast as possible.

It's an excellent interview and Mrs. Scarr obviously enjoyed reminiscing about the past and the people she knew.


Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: ianball11 on February 05, 2015, 09:32:44 pm
Agreed, I wonder what happened to the Alsatian?
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on June 08, 2015, 07:15:49 pm
We have just added four new recordings about Mike Boon.

Many of you will have seen / heard three of them before, as they are audio extracts of the Vimeo films taken by Bill Steele at Mike Boon's wake in Alberta (with Bill's permission), which were drawn to this forum's attention by rhychydwr1. I make no apologies for the duplication, as I feel that the Audio Archive is a logical home for them:

John Donovan - Memories of Mike Boon (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=252)
Ian Drummond - Memories of Mike Boon (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=253)
Daryl Donovan - Memories of Mike Boon (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=255)

For technical reasons, we are unable to add Peter Thompson's tribute at the moment, but we intend to do so.

We do have, however, a new tribute provide by Bill Steele himself, recorded by Andy Chapman and Ben Wright during the 2015 Huatla Expedition:

Bill Steele - Memories of Mike Boon (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=254)

We are also hoping that we will be adding a recording by the great man himself in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on December 01, 2015, 04:17:54 pm
Courtesy of Andy Chapman, we have just published two interviews with Bob Gillibrand.

Bob began caving in the early 1950s, and by the mid-1950s had became a very active member of the Northern Speleological Society, being involved in the early explorations of the back end of Ingleborough Cave with Bob Leakey. He later became a member of the Burnley Caving Club. In the early 1960s he became a founder member of the Northern Section of the Cave Diving Group, and he and Mike Boon were the first to pass the Ireby Fell Cavern sump and explore the passages beyond. He was also involved in the explorations on the far side of the Langstroth Cave sump. In 1963 he wangled an invitation to join Ken Pearce's first expedition to the Gouffre Berger which was successful in breaking the world depth record.

In the first interview he remembers how he got into caving, and managed to get himself invited onto Berger expedition.

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=257 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=257)

In the second interview he gives a vivid account of the trials, tribulations, and rewards of working with Pearce in the Berger.

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=256 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=256)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: susie on December 07, 2015, 11:24:26 am
Yet again courtesy of Andy Chapman, we have published three more interviews on the Audio Archive - this time with Frank Barnes.

Frank started caving at the age of 15 with John Ogden, who was to later die in Mossdale Caverns, and they were both active members of the Happy Wanderers Cave and Pothole Club in the 1960s. In these interviews, Frank describes how he and Dave Ogden started caving, recalls some memories of Dave, and provides a vivid description of his part in the Ken Pearce 1967 Gouffre Berger expedition when after the expedition fragmented, a small group of mainly Happy Wanderers members picked up the gauntlet and managed to get Pearce's diving equipment to the sump, where Pearce passed the second sump to discover a pitch, breaking the world depth record in the process.

Frank Barnes: Early Beginnings (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=260)
Frank Barnes: Memories of Dave Ogden (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=259)
Frank Barnes: Gouffre Berger 1967 Expedition (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=258)

These are great interviews, and thanks are due to Andy Chapman, Frank Barnes, and Mick Melvin for their efforts in allowing us to hear them.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on January 10, 2016, 08:03:10 am
By courtesy of Sid Perou we have published a great recording of Derek Ford sharing his memories of Mike Boon.

For those younger members of the forum, Derek Ford was a Mendip caver and academic who founded the Karst Research Group at McMaster University in Ontario. The Canadian karst was pretty well unexplored at that time, and he recruited Mike Boon, amongst others, to help him in that task, resulting in Mike emigration to Canada. In this recording, Derek talks about recruiting Mike, and of Mike's great solo Castleguard exploration.

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=261 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=261)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 01, 2016, 08:30:50 am
To playback the MP3 recording files the Audio Archive uses third party software from JW Player, which gets regularly updated.

For the technically minded, this software uses the standard HTML video audio facility by default, but falls back to Flash if the HTML facility isn't available, whilst preserving the skin.

I have a version that implements the latest offering from JW Player, but have been told that it failed to work on an Apple Mac.  I would like to pin this down a little further, so I would be grateful if any one with a Apple Mac could let me know if the following link works as expected, and what version of the operating system their Mac is running:

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selectedV7.php?id=56&test (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selectedV7.php?id=56&test)

Thank you.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: AR on February 01, 2016, 08:45:28 am
It may be browser-specific; was it reported as happening on Chrome/Firefox on a Mac or just on Safari? I can try and have a quick look on the work iMac if I get chance today, that's running El Cap and has Firefox as well as Safari.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 01, 2016, 09:00:32 am
It may be browser-specific; was it reported as happening on Chrome/Firefox on a Mac or just on Safari?

Good point - I suspect that it was Safari, but knowing the browser would be useful.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: AR on February 01, 2016, 09:50:26 am
OK, I've had a quick try of that link on the work iMac (as mentioned, running OS X El Capitan) using Safari and JWplayer was behaving on that, the audio was playing fine for me? From my experience of JWplayer (we use it in some of our stuff at work) I'd expect it to behave the same on Chrome and Firefox regardless of platform though there are occasional oddities.

I suggest you go back to the person reporting it as not working on their Mac and find out what version of OS X they're running and what browser they're using.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Jenny P on February 01, 2016, 08:39:22 pm
OK, just tried that link and it doesn't work for me.

I'm using a MacBook Pro, running Safari 5.1.10 and Mac OS X 10.6.8.

I've been told I can't upgrade this so hope there is a workaround as I can't afford a new laptop.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: AR on February 01, 2016, 09:17:38 pm
Jenny, I'd suggest installing Firefox and seeing if you get the audio OK on that?
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 02, 2016, 12:44:11 am
Thanks for the input. There's no absolute rush to upgrade, so I'll leave it for a bit.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on February 22, 2016, 09:35:23 am
We have been delighted to add an interview with the late, great Mike Boon which was made in 2010, and conducted by John Donovan who did a lot of caving with Mike. The tape was edited by Sid Perou. In it, Mike is first asked about the writing of his book Down to a Sunless Sea, and he then goes on to talk about his Castleguard explorations, including the occasion when he and Pete Thompson were trapped by flood waters for two days, which resulted in the de facto closure of all caves in the Banff National Park. He also talks a little about his solo exploration in the cave.

Mike Boon - Explorations in Castleguard (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=266)

We have also added a recording of Mike talking about his cave diving experiences, which was extracted from one of Sid's cave diving films. I'll take the blame for the editing of this one:

Mike Boon - Pioneer Cave Diver (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=265)

In addition to that, Andy Chapman has allowed us to add his excellent interviews with Malcolm Bass and Andy Tharratt where they discuss the Penyghent explorations of the 1980s:

Andy Tharratt: Explorations in Penyghent Pot - Part 1 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=267)
Malcolm Bass: Explorations in Penyghent Pot - Part 1 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=263)
Malcolm Bass: Explorations in Penyghent Pot - Part 2 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=264)

We would like to thank all those people who continue to support the Audio Archive with their hard work, and their generosity in allowing us to use their recordings and photographs.

Happy listening!
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: ianball11 on February 22, 2016, 10:11:43 am
superb!
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: langcliffe on June 28, 2016, 10:13:32 am
Rob Eavis had the foresight to record the proceedings at the Oxlow Cavern - Giant's Hole connection fiftieth anniversary celebrations on 21st May in Castleton. Unfortunately, the superb talks given by Rob and John Gunn depended heavily on visual aids, so were not suited for the audio archive, but Clive Westlake's equally superb talk on forging the connection has been added to the archive. It may be found here:

http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=268 (http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/selected.php?id=268)

It's a great record of an important event in British caving, and thanks to Rob for recording it, and to Andy Chapman for passing it on to me.

Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Jenny P on April 06, 2019, 07:19:52 pm
A new addition to the British Caving Library's Audio Archive has just been posted:
two interviews on BBC Radio Shropshire by Emma Porter and Mike Clayton about their part in BCRC's response to the Thai Cave Rescue.

The recordings were done in July last year, only a short time after the rescue had concluded, but they have only recently been made available to us - many thanks to Emma and to Radio Shropshire.  Everyone heard a good deal about what was going on in Thailand so it's sobering to hear of the efforts made by so many British cavers here in the UK to make sure that all went as smoothly as possible for those at the sharp end.

Well worth a listen, even with Bob Marley and the Wailers starting it off.
Title: Re: Caving Audio Archives
Post by: Ian Ball on April 06, 2019, 11:20:37 pm
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