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andymorgan

Guest
Thats the point, to encourage people to write the article, or hope one already exists.
 
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mudman

Guest
andymorgan said:
Thats the point, to encourage people to write the article, or hope one already exists.

Yeah, I can see that arguement, but when you end up with it littered with a load of empty links that lead to blank pages, the casual browser soon gives up and goes away.
It might be better to have a category or page that people could add ideas for articles to. They could list ones they intend to do or would like to see. When it gets written, then the page could be updated with a link to the article and so on.
 

bubba

Administrator
I agree - it's pretty obvious which links don't have content.

A red link is more useful imho than a blue link which takes you to a placeholder with no useful information on it anyway.
 

martinr

Active member
bubba said:
I agree - it's pretty obvious which links don't have content.

A red link is more useful imho than a blue link which takes you to a placeholder with no useful information on it anyway.

Keep the red links! They serve a purpose.

As stated at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tip_of_the_day/July_12%2C_2006 (with apologies for the use of the term "linkify")

...When a Wikipedian writes an article, it is common practice to linkify key topics pertinent to an understanding of the subject, even if those topics don't have an article on Wikipedia yet. This has two applications:
From within an article, such a link prepares the article to be fully supported. At any time, a Wikipedian may independently write an article on the linked-to subject, and when this happens, there's already a link ready and waiting for it. The red link also gives readers the opportunity to click on it to create the needed article on the spot.
In topic lists, it is useful to include every topic on the subject you can possible find or think of. When they are turned into links, the list immediately shows where the gaps in Wikipedia's coverage for that subject are, since all of the topics missing articles will show up in red. Such lists are useful tools in developing subject areas on Wikipedia, as they show where work is needed most.


 
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mudman

Guest
Rhys said:
Links to empty articles are shown in red. If they irritate you, don't click on them!

Rhys

:-[
Ah, now see I didn't know that.
Perhaps I better actually read the help pages.
 

bubba

Administrator
Thanks for all the standardisation work Robin  :clap:

PS - there may be some breadcrumb extensions to mediawiki which might make this sort of thing a bit easier - I'll have a dig about.
 

bubba

Administrator
bubba said:
Thanks for all the standardisation work Robin  :clap:

PS - there may be some breadcrumb extensions to mediawiki which might make this sort of thing a bit easier - I'll have a dig about.

In light of the other topic: http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php/topic,2804.0.html

Do we want to breadcrumb pages and impose a hierarchical structure? Maybe not. It's just not how wikis work, even though I thought it was.
 

mulucaver

Member
If you want an idea of data to include have a look at my database at http://mycaves.org
bubba said:
I think anything caving related can go in, but it might be a good idea to outline a basic top level structure before starting.

Cave_troll's list is good for info about caves/areas, but I think we need other top level things like:

equipment
history
etc

?

TBH, I've not got much more of an idea than anyone else.

The reason that this is test-only at present is that the future plans for ukcaving involve hooking the whole site up to a content management system, where the cms/gallery/forum/wiki logins are all integrated and controlled by the CMS. It's a work in progress, but it's taking forever to get done!
 

RobinGriffiths

Well-known member
I don't think I'll bother...

Yes I understand why not. There's only a certain combination of usernames and passwords you can manage before a critical pair has been released to a website which may be 'safe' or 'unsafe'.
 

mulucaver

Member
Rhys said:
mulucaver said:
If you want an idea of data to include have a look at my database at http://mycaves.org
"You must be a registered user to read this page."

I don't think I'll bother...

Rhys
The reason for requiring registration was that I wanted to hide certain sensitive information such as entrance location from the general public whilst making it available to registered users.
I've now removed the need for registration.

 
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