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Offline gus horsley

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"The Coffin"
« on: June 19, 2007, 08:49:05 am »
I was talking to a friend at work yesterday who remembers going caving in "a place near the Lake District" - presumably the Dales.  She then went on about doing a cave with a squeeze in it called "The Coffin" and asked me if I'd done it.  For the life of me I can't think of a cave with a feature of that name except Mohammed's Coffin in Weathercote cave but I don't think it's that one.  Anyone got any ideas?

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2007, 08:56:07 am »
Goatchurch, burrington
The Coffin Lid ;)

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2007, 09:02:23 am »
I didn't realise Burrington was near the Lake District.

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2007, 10:34:44 am »
Goatchurch, burrington
The Coffin Lid ;)

Thanks for that Whitelackington.  She might live in Cornwall but her geography's not that bad.  Still it's the only one I've got at the moment.

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2007, 10:45:37 am »
I didn't realise Burrington was near the Lake District.

That's what happens when you use imprecise terminology.

Define "near".

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2007, 11:03:13 am »
An alternative - perhaps an old copper mine in the Lake Distict with a narrow coffin level. Goldscope Mines come to mind, or perhaps an old part of the Coniston mines.

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2007, 11:34:22 am »
Of course theres plenty of coffin levels in the peak as well and thats not too far from the lakes

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2007, 11:47:33 am »
I thought of coffin levels too but she was certain it was a cave, and it had a traverse in it and a short free climb.  Still can't think which one it was though, but thanks for your input so far.

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2007, 11:53:32 am »
Derbyshire "caves" have coffin levels in them perhaps, cos some are both mines and caves.

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2007, 11:58:27 am »
http://www.cangocaves.co.za/adventure.php

Is this 'near' the Lake District?

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2007, 12:01:52 pm »
http://www.cangocaves.co.za/adventure.php

Is this 'near' the Lake District?


Do they still have a separate entrance for "Blecks"

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2007, 12:03:08 pm »
http://www.cangocaves.co.za/adventure.php

Is this 'near' the Lake District?


Now you're just being facetious. ;)

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2007, 12:31:21 pm »

I can imagine some cave leaders sometimes might make up names for squeezes - pitches - climb etc when they are leading school parties etc. Lend the trip some air of adventure etc.
"The coffin" does seem a bit cruel though doesnt it.

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2007, 01:07:09 pm »
and normal cavers would never do that would they...

I can show you the "boulder slope of certain death"...

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2007, 01:30:02 pm »
Ahh - yes, going there tonight  :blink:

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2007, 01:52:17 pm »
In Rhaeardr Ddu in South Wales there is a small area after the initial entrance crawl where you crawl under a large boulder that is held up by a small acro. This is called The Coffin. It's a bit nearer to the Lake District but I suspect not quite near enough. I believe there are traverses and climbs after this but I took one look at what was after this and said 'bugger this' and 'buggered off' out.

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2007, 02:14:38 pm »
I've heard the flat out squeeze oxbow in Giants being called "the coffin"
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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2007, 02:15:33 pm »
I didn't realise Burrington was near the Lake District.

Some of the Mendip caves are so large they extend almost to the Dales  ;)
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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2007, 04:46:08 pm »
I've heard the flat out squeeze oxbow in Giants being called "the coffin"

Andy, I think you might have it.  She also said she did a bit of caving in the Peak District and now I'm wondering if she's got the two areas confused.  Is the Coffin a high-level oxbow?  It's so long since I've done Giants I can't remember.

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2007, 06:31:50 pm »
Its a small oxbow off the main trade route. Groups often send their charges round it and they pop back out a short way further on.

I can vouch that it is flippin tight...
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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2007, 08:02:11 pm »
In Rhaeardr Ddu in South Wales there is a small area after the initial entrance crawl where you crawl under a large boulder that is held up by a small acro. This is called The Coffin. It's a bit nearer to the Lake District but I suspect not quite near enough. I believe there are traverses and climbs after this but I took one look at what was after this and said 'bugger this' and 'buggered off' out.

That bolder looked pretty grim 10 years ago so it either looks much worse now or it's probably likely to last a fair while longer.

It's quite a good cave actually - definitely worth the slightly scary boulder.

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2007, 10:01:14 am »

I can imagine some cave leaders sometimes might make up names for squeezes - pitches - climb etc when they are leading school parties etc. Lend the trip some air of adventure etc.
"The coffin" does seem a bit cruel though doesnt it.

Cruel? not with localised names for squeezes such as "the cracks of doom", or "vasectomy squeeze" - cuddly, fluffy names designed to put schoolkids at ease.
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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2007, 10:15:41 am »
"vasectomy squeeze"

Surely no-one uses that name with school children and, if they do, how do they justify it and/or explain it to those children who say "WTF is that?"? - furthermore, you can imagine the concerned parents hearing their beloved children using such terms when they return home and recount their endeavours.

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2007, 11:06:43 am »
Vasectomy Squeeze?  I know there's one called the Nutcracker somewhere.

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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2007, 03:11:16 pm »
There's one in Slaughter Stream Cave called the Molester
(although it's a long way into the system in the Remelt Series and hardly novice territory)
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Re: "The Coffin"
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2007, 04:13:32 pm »
I like "The Stemple of Doom" in some stoney cave.

The is also Knackertrapper Hole...

In Waterways we named a squeeze "The Tourist Trap" as it is a one way trip.....no one has ever reversed it  as your badly squeezed rib cage suddenly pops back to shape over the lip of a gour pool, making reversal impossible. I pushed it by having someone braced against the back wall pushing on my feet. It was not nice.

If you emerge the other side you have a nice 50ft pitch to look at - hope you brought some gear  ;)
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