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Title: Vernon Unsworth to sue Elon Musk - official
Post by: David Rose on September 17, 2018, 08:36:05 pm
Go Vernon!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45551895
Title: Re: Vernon Unsworth to sue Elon Musk - official
Post by: mikem on September 17, 2018, 09:09:21 pm
Only 57 grand, that's hardly pocket change (way less than 1% of his net worth)...
Title: Re: Vernon Unsworth to sue Elon Musk - official
Post by: ZombieCake on September 17, 2018, 11:22:17 pm
I guess (and it a speculative guess) it shows that it is a point of principle and not unbridled greed, as for example as shown by USA inhabitants suing burger joints for daring sell them something outrageous as hot coffee.  Defending an action would be expensive even if was for only a dollar.
Title: Re: Vernon Unsworth to sue Elon Musk - official
Post by: andybrooks on September 18, 2018, 01:06:21 am
The punitive damages, if awarded, are likely to be a much larger amount.
Title: Re: Vernon Unsworth to sue Elon Musk - official
Post by: NewStuff on September 18, 2018, 06:41:54 am
USA inhabitants suing burger joints for daring sell them something outrageous as hot coffee.

The "hot coffee" one, while sounding silly and often used as an indicator of a litigious culture, was actually horrific. It wasn't just hot, it was superheated, full on 3rd degree burns, skin removal, stuff. Google at your own risk, the pictures are nasty.

As said, Punitive damages are going to be the big number, irrespective of where the suit is.
Title: Re: Vernon Unsworth to sue Elon Musk - official
Post by: Alex on September 18, 2018, 09:39:45 am
Quote
I guess (and it a speculative guess) it shows that it is a point of principle and not unbridled greed, as for example as shown by USA inhabitants suing burger joints for daring sell them something outrageous as hot coffee.  Defending an action would be expensive even if was for only a dollar.

Off topic, but I feel I have to correct this faliciy made up by MacDonaldz
That was made up by the company itself to save face. She actually received extensive burns over her body as the coffee was incorrectly heated to around 100C! So she sued because she was effectively disabled.

See below for more information:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9DXSCpcz9E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9DXSCpcz9E)
Title: Re: Vernon Unsworth to sue Elon Musk - official
Post by: martinr on May 12, 2019, 11:57:43 am
Quote from: The Guardian / Associated Press Sat 11 May 2019
Elon Musk faces trial after calling British diver a paedophile

LA court rejects Telsa chief’s attempt to dismiss Vernon Unsworth’s defamation lawsuit

judge in Los Angeles sets 22 October trial date

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/may/11/elon-musk-faces-trial-after-calling-british-diver-a-paedophile (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/may/11/elon-musk-faces-trial-after-calling-british-diver-a-paedophile)
Title: Re: Vernon Unsworth to sue Elon Musk - official
Post by: Badlad on September 17, 2019, 11:31:32 am
This popped up on a news feed.  Looks like it's going to get dirty.  PIs looking for mud.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49724251
Title: Re: Vernon Unsworth to sue Elon Musk - official
Post by: SimonDontFitDownDraenen on September 20, 2019, 12:26:55 am
"looking for mud"

I'm sure they will find plenty of that!  :lol:
Title: Re: Vernon Unsworth to sue Elon Musk - official
Post by: RobinGriffiths on September 20, 2019, 12:50:09 am
This is a bit assymetric though. Musk can muster billions to chip away at any slightest crack.
Title: Re: Vernon Unsworth to sue Elon Musk - official
Post by: mikem on September 20, 2019, 07:37:57 am
The PI referred to was hired months ago.

Unsworth's lawyer recently tweeted this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/cuufr3/in_vernon_unsworth_case_i_deposed_elon_musk_all/
Title: Re: Vernon Unsworth to sue Elon Musk - official
Post by: Mr Dinwiddy on October 29, 2019, 08:12:15 pm
Looks like its going to court in December
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/oct/29/elon-musk-vernon-unsworth-tweet-trial-defamation-lawsuit