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Offline The Old Ruminator

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At The J'Rats 2015
« on: November 22, 2015, 09:51:30 am »
Well I am glad I went. So much going on under Mendip these days. All very well run and presented and every talk done efficiently in the presenters own style. Duncan's matter of fact presentation. ( I would sh*t myself if I had no air in a murky sump ). The great enthusiastic bit on Upper Canada Cave . The long slog at Home Close superbly shown and described by Tony Audsley. Little known sieges like the ones at Hobnail and Fester. It puts ones own efforts into perspective. Graham Prices fascinating look at new areas above Sanford Levy with promise of more to find there. All those wobbly stacked deads gave me the shivers. And to think nothing less than 100m in a single cave yet on the shovel since it all started.Oh Great Videos too. Grebe mud set to music and the " gnomes " at Fester Hole. Our little bit with photos of miniature cavers to make it all look big. What will we see next year ?
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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2015, 09:58:04 am »
Yes I wasnt going because I tend to avoid cavers social events. I dont like driving much also. A miserable old git I suppose. I got thoroughly confused in the dark on Mendip when I found the Priddy road closed. ( On the way up from Cheddar ). Anyway all was well and my stupid fear of finding a parking space was overcome. How can you have a phobia about parking ? I spent the whole evening fretting about being boxed in. I actually assaulted somebody who boxed me in once. Boulders and lost at sea no problem. Cars and parking -- oo er. I think I will chop the posts up cus the wretched thing might time out.

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2015, 10:06:36 am »
Where was I ? Doesnt the forum realise old people need lots of coffee and toilet breaks. Ahh yes the event. Wow so much being done. Now I have to ask a question regarding that. So much being done on Mendip and none of it gets here on the forum. No I am not forum bashing I just wonder why cavers are so reticent. We Mendip folk do have a closed Facebook group and a bit gets on there. Perhaps all the diggers are waiting for that epic find before going public. So that takes up back to the trip reports. Nothing here to match the volume of stuff in the club magazines. Nothing much here in respect to photos either and I saw some super stuff last night. To me it really is an enigma as the mods do their best to encourage stuff.
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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2015, 10:14:22 am »
Reticence.
Lets take our own project at Vurley. I put up a post and all hell let loose." Ye Gods you fool. Look at all those health and safety issues. The contractor will be sued." Well I have never worked in industry and didnt realise how delicate it all was. Off it all came cus how was I to know where the offences were. Today we have two teams at Vurley and have committed a lot of money to the project. Lots of people involved. The landowner, English Nature, The very big team of folk. If one says lay off the publicity thats it. No dig reports here though I do sneak the odd photo in other posts. So that's our excuse. I wonder where it all goes wrong so to speak.

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2015, 11:07:03 am »
Please carry on Ruminating. It's all very interesting.

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2015, 12:56:29 pm »
Maybe we of the Jurassic era could club together and order a batch.......

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261763211551?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=560638590466&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2015, 02:17:45 pm »
So much being done on Mendip and none of it gets here on the forum. 

Maybe I'll write something up, it's not very exciting, but if 1m on Mendip is worth 1000m in Yorkshire, we've made nearly 40km this year. We've also managed to prove that The old Ruminator might not be the only one prone to accidents and near misses...  :doubt:
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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2015, 04:22:09 pm »
Blimmin good night
Genuinely interesting presentations from all the digging teams followed a lively session afterwards which (I believe) carried on in the club huts late enough that it was barely worth going to bed.
Congratulations to the Home Close team. Years of persistence have paid off with a spectacular find and a connection through to Wigmore.
I met the youngest member of the Home Close dig team this morning - first time I've actually seen a green colour cast on someone's face, I thought it was a myth! A well deserved celebration :)

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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2015, 08:46:49 pm »
I'm looking forward to Home Close Hole cave being opened up for caving, the through trip from Wigmore diving and caving will be a true collectors piece.  Not to mention the possibilities for extending Wigmore and opening up more digs underground.   

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2015, 08:51:00 pm »
Can anyone elaborate a little on the holme close dig. i used to read the online log but it stopped at the end of 2014. Would love to hear a few more details.

Thanks

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2015, 08:53:59 pm »
A guy call Tony runs the dig, I think he's a Wessex member.

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2015, 08:33:55 am »
Rumor has it that an announcement about the breakthrough will be in the next Descent, followed by a full article before long.

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2015, 08:24:21 pm »
It was written up for Decent and I think there is a survey in The Wessex magazine. Sadly it now seems that the trip is too long for most of the aged team. 80ft abseil does not help.

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2015, 08:28:41 pm »
Meanwhile furious post J'Rat digging is taking place all over Mendip. One from today.


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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2015, 11:02:16 pm »
That isn't going to promote it Nick ;D

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2015, 07:16:13 pm »
You are right Mr O' Doc. We need a far more vigorous subject. Well at least he has a bigger hammer.


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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2015, 11:13:12 am »
I meant the mud prat!

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2015, 12:14:26 pm »
Come now, Mr O'Doc!  The muddier the merrier!
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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2015, 06:31:43 pm »
Zactly. Mud and Mendip are synonymous. :lol:

I have this awful vision of next years awards.

" And to Burrington Bears Scout Group for their astonishing find in Aveline's Hole ".

Ho Ho.

We shall see but there wont be lack of effort on our part.

Two teams a week digging like mad. We did 40 skip loads on Tuesday alone.


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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2015, 11:33:05 pm »
If J'Rat could see you now.............
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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2015, 12:41:21 am »
-- He would be interested to find out who won the trophy -- and for what ??
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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2015, 10:26:22 am »
For what ?

Home Close Hole ( The Soggy Bottom Crew ) at close to 305 m if memory serves me right.

Now how they decide to publicise their work is entirely up to them.




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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2015, 03:14:31 pm »
Thanks O.R., just out of interest, do they get many entries from Scotland?
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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2015, 04:49:12 pm »
Not this year but of course it won hands down the second year and there is still plenty of potential up there.

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2015, 09:21:14 pm »
Not this year but of course it won hands down the second year and there is still plenty of potential up there.

Thanks for that 'doc, I can envisage that roguish grin thinking 'at least I've got folks finding cave'--.
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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2019, 05:25:32 am »
It was written up for Decent and I think there is a survey in The Wessex magazine. Sadly it now seems that the trip is too long for most of the aged team. 80ft abseil does not help.

Do you happen to know which copy it was in? I'd be interested in reading about it. Also is it still an active dig and or open to cavers or not? Thanks :)  :) :)

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2019, 06:45:17 am »
Lost touch a bit with Home Close. You can get trips through the team.  At least Mr O'Doc did. They have attempted the sumps in the main streamway via Home Close but again nothing recent noted. I dont think think that the MCRA bibliography is up to date enough for recent references. I expect somebody knows a lot more than I. ( hint ).

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2019, 09:06:36 am »
 Work is ongoing in Hom close and the Wigmore streamway

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2019, 09:26:18 am »
Sounds interesting - is there a reason why their online reports stopped for Home Close (stopped in December 2014)? I enjoyed reading them and they kept me grounded in the digging world of mendip at the time.  I'd like to organise a trip in July if I am allowed? Who should I ask?

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2019, 12:15:31 pm »
Home Close Hole aka Home Close Cave
NGR ST 56035 52465 A  m   L 385   D 76 m
References:
Audsley, Tony 2015 Home Close Hole – Events, Dear Boy, Events.  . Wessex Cave Club Journal (333) 208-214 S photos.  April
Descent (243) 13  A dig - close to Wigmore Swallet.
Descent (247) Dec/Jan 15/16 7 and 30 dry route to Wigmore Ten.  S
Descent (252) 10 another break through, with survey
Descent (253 Dec 2016/Jan 2017  14 3 photos.  Discovering Fallen by Duncan Price.  Wigmore extend to Sump 11.  131 m of new passage and depth from Home Close entrance -140m. 
Duncan, Price 2016 To the end of Wigmore with a Soggy Bottom  ChSS 58 (4/5/6) April/May/June  20-21 photos on 25.  Very detailed, a good blow by blow description of the cave.
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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2019, 05:38:49 pm »
I suggest contacting Duncan Price for a possible trip. He posts on this forum.

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Re: At The J'Rats 2015
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2019, 01:55:49 pm »
I suggest contacting Duncan Price for a possible trip. He posts on this forum.

There's a trip this Sunday - 10 pm.  The Old Lags are digging above the 25 m pitch but not using anything that would interfere with trips further into the cave.  There is a diving team going in to do some climbing beyond S10 and I hope to do some surveying near to Sandy Tunnel and perhaps open up a potential link to bypass part of Squality Street.

The pitches are rigged and we hope to put a bomb proof ladder on the up climb into The Generation Game from Young Bloods' in the future.  The ladders have been in since 2017 and are of concern.