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More resignations at BCA
« on: July 23, 2020, 03:16:44 pm »
Last week we heard that Claire Ross, BCA C&A Officer resigned citing "... the situation generally within the BCA and the infighting and complete disrespect for each other, I have no wish to continue in post and would appreciate it if you would take this email as my resignation from this position."  This followed similar sentiments from others including Jane Allen who stepped down as P&I Officer at last weeks council meeting.

Today we heard that Les Williams has resigned as chairman of BCA for personal reasons.  Whilst some might see this as an organisation in crisis - and it is.  Others have stepped up to fill the roles immediately with Mad Phil Rowsel taking over as an acting chairman and Will Burns at C&A.

Good luck to all the new council members trying to move things forward.  Stopping the infighting, the undermining of volunteers, improving the atmosphere and moving a modernising agenda forward has got to be the first and biggest challenge.

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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2020, 05:06:55 pm »
Would like to take this opportunity to thank Les for his time as Chairman and Claire and Jane in their respective roles.

Also thanks to MadPhil and Will for stepping into these important roles. I was "at" the BCA council meeting the other day and thought Phil did a great job as stand-in chairman.

I'd like to think this could be viewed as a position of changeover, lots of keen people stepping into roles, and hopefully nudging BCA in the right direction.

One thing I would like to see more of from the BCA is a bit of openness, and it's certainly something I'll be pushing for going forwards.

Whilst it is sad that we are losing people from roles, for person reasons, or other, looking through maybe optimistic glasses, I can see that change is happening, and it could be for good. Alternatively it could be total shit, but who knows  :shrug:

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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2020, 05:14:48 pm »
well said Josh, and I would echo all that josh wrote

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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2020, 05:32:08 pm »
It's a shame to see people stepping down especially when I know they were trying to do good. I am concerned that some of the people causing the issues are not the ones stepping down and in some ways are they getting what they want? I don't blame anyone for walking away from it though and thank them for what they have done.

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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2020, 09:00:38 pm »
Good luck Bogmaster Burns, I heard you made a great article about Coronavirus in Caves. I look forward to reading it, will it be remixed and released as an Autotune hit.

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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2020, 09:23:31 pm »
will it be remixed and released as an Autotune hit.

With Rostam in the P&I role I have grave concerns about BCA policy being broadcast in the medium of song

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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2020, 10:16:05 pm »
It's sad to lose volunteers under a dark cloud, but equally quite positive that we have new folk stepping in so swiftly. I wish you all the best and am grateful for those of you who take on these roles.

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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2020, 12:52:27 pm »
With Rostam in the P&I role I have grave concerns about BCA policy being broadcast in the medium of song

I mean this idea obviously has some popularity judging by all the likes... An operetta on caving advice during the pandemic would be a touch challenging though

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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2020, 08:51:06 pm »
therefore we will all wait baited breath for your master piece rostam

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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2020, 09:14:32 pm »
What bait would you use to lure a Rostam?  :-\

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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2020, 06:51:30 am »
So sorry to see Les go at the BCA.  His will be a hard act to follow.  Hopefully I will continue to see him at some of our UCET meets and next year's Hidden Earth.  I understand that things have been difficult at the BCA and the current coronavirus pandemic and it's knock-on effects have made things worst.

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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2020, 12:17:40 pm »
Do we need BCA?  Do we need insurance?  I suppose if you own your own house, yes.  But if it is rented or mortgaged no.

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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2020, 04:06:13 pm »
Do we need BCA?  Do we need insurance?  I suppose if you own your own house, yes.  But if it is rented or mortgaged no.

The premise of the question is wrong, we don't NEED most things. It is however a fantastic opportunity.

And as for bait, though some would say an audience, I prefer a wide open lead.

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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2020, 05:09:43 pm »
Do we need BCA?  Do we need insurance?  I suppose if you own your own house, yes.  But if it is rented or mortgaged no.

Insurance is a funny thing, you never really need it. Right up to that moment when it's essential.

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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2020, 01:14:53 am »
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With Rostam in the P&I role I have grave concerns about BCA policy being broadcast in the medium of song

Can the BCA / CSCC or other unholy body meeting, given the public facing depressive craziness of UK caving politics, set whatever comes out to something by Ennio Morricone?  He did after all have random shouting and warbling in his missives, and so has more resonance with the masses. Maybe a pocket watch tune at the next Hidden Earth will sort? A lot of us are bored now.
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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2020, 01:35:37 am »
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With Rostam in the P&I role I have grave concerns about BCA policy being broadcast in the medium of song

Can the BCA / CSCC or other unholy body meeting, given the public facing depressive craziness of UK caving politics, set whatever comes out to something by Ennio Morricone?  He did after all have random shouting and warbling in his missives, and so has more resonance with the masses. Maybe a pocket watch tune at the next Hidden Earth will sort? A lot of us are bored now.

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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2020, 02:48:29 am »
How about a policy that Proposals are to be presented via the medium of Interpretive Dance?
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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2020, 10:09:25 am »
How about a policy that Proposals are to be presented via the medium of Interpretive Dance?
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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2020, 06:04:54 pm »
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With Rostam in the P&I role I have grave concerns about BCA policy being broadcast in the medium of song
Can the BCA / CSCC or other unholy body meeting, given the public facing depressive craziness of UK caving politics, set whatever comes out to something by Ennio Morricone?

I would have thought Primus was more fitting to caving... enjoyed mainly by men with beards, and most people don't get it.
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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2020, 07:55:29 pm »
Alternatively it could be total shit, but who knows  :shrug:
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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2020, 11:15:53 pm »
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How about a policy that Proposals are to be presented via the medium of Interpretive Dance?

How about this?  The sprite of sensible caving gets picked on by the bad dudes and the CSCC key / flute / insert applicable meme here gets busted by the bad bureaucrats.  Meanwhile the good beaurocrats have a different opinion. Oh well, it's an interpretation  ;D

Meanwhile, while the politicians are duking it out, everyone else can go to the pub.


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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2020, 11:00:47 am »
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How about a policy that Proposals are to be presented via the medium of Interpretive Dance?

How about this?  The sprite of sensible caving gets picked on by the bad dudes and the CSCC key / flute / insert applicable meme here gets busted by the bad bureaucrats.  Meanwhile the good beaurocrats have a different opinion. Oh well, it's an interpretation  ;D

Meanwhile, while the politicians are duking it out, everyone else can go to the pub.



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Re: More resignations at BCA
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2020, 01:24:07 am »
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Flatley, my dear, I don't riverdance.

Nice to have bit of Rhett-oric, as long as people don't go all Scarlett about it.

 

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